deborah rudolph: mr. rudolph had passed away. he had melanoma.y had wanted to administer laetrile, which is not approved by the fda, and he ended up passing. it sort of fell into that... “well, the government is keeping these sort of cures away from us.” so, you know, they're just become layers of conspiracy. art harris: suddenly, here's eric with grief in his mind. but no one to-- to single out except the feds, the bureaucracy that denied his father the one elixir of hope he wanted, who he thought would cure his cancer. and looking back, i think, ok, they already had these sentiments, but i think it progressed after robert died. his mom seemed to be somebody who was a spiritual searcher. art harris: eric rudolph grew up in somewhat of a preached-at childhood where his mother would visit different churches that were very fundamentalist or had a new christian identity movement. eric is exposed to a really toxic mix of ideas-- white nationalism, white separatism, white supremacy, all mixed in. deborah rudolph: how it was explained to me is if you w

they don't know the area like rudolph knew that area.t very well. >> shane, if you don't know, if you don't have experience in the forest, how difficult is it to survive for, for weeks and weeks and weeks? >> you are not. simply if you don't have the skills and the relationship of knowing how to make a proper shelter, insulated with or without a fire, you have to get out of the elements. they're exhausted. they're dehydrated you. have to filter water. can't assume it is safe out there. don't know your edibles, medicinals, simply do not have the skills you have to skirt in and around these urban environments and utilize the things you already know you can get. >> if you don't have prepositioned supplies, and you don't know the wilderness, you have to spend an awful lot of time just on the basics, not just escaping but on the basics of finding food and water. >> right without cardinal four, in the world of survival, four steps. now there is a difference here of between survival situation, let's say of a disaster zone or something along tha

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>> rudolph giuliani wants to be secretary of state and rudolph giuliani thinks he is better than theer choices. yes. someone asked. >> is there anybody better? >> maybe me. i don't know. >> he is direct. he is an unabashed supporter of donald trump and not afraid to repeat and even double down on the kind of rhetoric that left no doubt where the president-elect stands on the issues. >> islamist extremist terrorists. you know who you are! and we're coming to get you. >> giuliani's temperament for the job is coming into question. but so are his many business ties across the globe. though not a direct comparison, because rudolph giuliani was a private citizen. they are the same kinds of ties that rudolph giuliani found problematic when he labeled the clinton foundation and secretary of state hillary clinton as engaging in a pay to play scheme run out of the department of state. >> the clinton foundation to me is a racketeering enterprise. >> turning the state department into a pay or the play operation. >> he rose to national prom negligence on september 11, 2001. he became known as ame

part of a probe targeting associates of rudolph giuliani.kraine lieutenants and linking him to serious potential charges. there's terrific reporting on this. new reporting tonight. what are you learning about this grand jury subpoena? >> we learned that the subpoena tells us two things about this investigation so far. it tells us that it is quite broad and that they are exploring a range of potential criminal charges. all we know to date, before the subpoena, was that they returned to campaign finance violations. now we know they are considering wire fraud, obstruction of justice, lying to investigators. there's a lot that we don't know. this does show us that there is a very broad investigation and it could include a range of criminal conduct. >> and where does rudy giuliani fit into that? >> it's interesting. this subpoena is requesting from the person that received it any communications. but it is also asking for any communications with rudolph giuliani, his security consulting business giuliani partners, and it asks for any communication

he knew she's woods inmately. >> reporter: rudolph was spotted in july 1998.home of an owner of a health food store trying to buy food. the owner recognized him and refused. but when the owner returned two days later, he found that 75 pounds of food and his truck were missing. on the table, five $100 bills. rudolph killed and ate turkeys, deer bears, salamanders and corn from a giant cornfield. to stay warm during bitter cold winters, he would break into cabins and bundle himself up in piles of leaves. >> eric rudolph was living off the grid before he actually had to go off the grid. it was as if he had been preparing for this. >> reporter: despite years of searching for rudolph deep in the woods, he was finally arrested dumpster diving in the back of a grocery store looking for fruits and vegetables to freeze for the winter. >> it was luck. they had given up the hunt. they had given up the chase and he fell into their laps. >> reporter: after his arrest rudolph described his chase with police as a long camping trip that of the laedsted five years. the authori

they are probably not as well positioned as rudolph was. they don't have pre-planned sites, food they had already stocked. they don't know the area like rudolph knew that area. >> if you don't know if you don't have experience in the forest how difficult is it to survive for weeks and weeks and weeks? >> you're not. if you don't have the skills and have the relationship of knowing how to make a proper shelter insulated, with or without a fire, they're exhausted. they're dehigh drated. you have to fitter water. if you don't know your edibles, you have to skirt in an around these urban environments and utilize the things that you know you can get. >> if you don't have pre-positioned supplies you have to spend an awful lot of time just on the basics not just escaping but on the basis of finding food and water. >> right. without those cardinal four. in the world of survival, there's always four steps. there's a difference here of a survival situation or of a disaster zone. something along that line where i want to be found. i want to take the t

rudolph giuliani for secretary of state. would you confirm? >> first of all, i find it under believably iron pick donald trump who spent a good part of the campaign trying on convince people that he was against the iraq war is considering people like rudolph giuliani and john bolten who were some of the primary cheerleaders of the iraq war and to this day don't admit that it was a mistake. if donald trump will nominate someone like rudolph giuliani who has no experience in foreign policy, or somebody like john bolten who is determined to invade no countries. who has learned nothing from our failure in iraq and afghanistan, i don't think many will get many democratic votes at all of right now it appears that donald trump is putting loyalty to him ahead of the security of the nation. the jock of secretary of state is neighbor most important that he can fill. it is really a matter of life and death for people in ukraine, for people in east asia, for people in the united states. by putting a political supporter, a crony from the campaign in that p

but the trail ended cold year after year. >> eric rudolph had home field advantage. woods since he was a kid. he camped in them since he was teenager. >> reporter: he turned up at the home of the owner of a health food store trying to buy food. tone the owner recognized him and refused. but when the owner returned two days later he found that 75 pound of food and his truck were missing, on the table five $100 bills. he killed bears and sal la-- he would break into cabins and bundle himself up in piles of leaves. >> he was living off the grid before he actually had to go off the grid. it was as though he had been prepared for this. >> reporter: despite years of searching for rudolph deep in the woods, he was finally arrested dumpster diving in the back of a grocery store. >> it was luck. they had given up the hunt the chase. and he fell into their laps. >> reporter: after his arrest rudolph described his chase with police as a long camping trip that lasted five years. investigators in upstate new york hunting for david sweat and richard matt hope it takes significantl

rudolph of marlboro, north carolina. >> not much is known about rudolph.gators describe him as an outdoors type with no fixed job or address. >> eric rudolph is identified as an anti-abortion terrorist who bombed the olympics because he wanted a stage to show his anti-abortion sentiment. eric rudolph goes on the run. >> as we started looking for him, we became more and more convinced his comfort level is in the place he was born and raised, in the woods and mountains of north carolina. >> this truck was found yesterday. we believe that between thursday and yesterday this truck was being driven by eric robert rudolph. >> i remember during the hunt one of the military advisers said you could hide a whole regiment in these mountains and we'd never find them. >> agents are now systematically picking their way through the hundreds of caves that dot the area. agents report encountering spiders the size of a hand and rattlesnakes as fat as a man's arm. >> american law enforcement discovers that you can be on the fbi's most wanted list and actually hide in this co

carolina. >> not much is known about rudolph. as a huntsman type with no fixed job or address. >> eric rudolph is described an anti-abortion terrorist. who bombed the olympics because he wanted a stage to show his anti-abortion sentiment. eric rudolph goes on the run. >> as we started looking for him, we became more and more convinced his comfort level is in the place he was born and raised in the woods and mountains of north carolina. >> this truck was found yesterday. we believe between thursday and yesterday this truck was being driven by eric rudolph. >> i remember during the hunt one of the military advisors says you could hide a whole regiment in the mountains and we would never find him. >> agents are now systematically picking their way through. >> american law enforcement discovers that you can be on the fbi's most wanted list and actually hide in this country. this guy disappears for five years. >> do you think that he's getting a big kick out of out smarting the feds? >> well, sure. i think he is. i think it's part of

and look of the rudolph giuliani again has been all over the place. week is not a good thing for the president. or probably for the country. who knows what he's doing over there? >> the senate why. is it wrong for mitch mcconnell to coordinate with the white house and say he is listening and taking his cues from the white house lawyer about how to conduct his senate trial in an impeachment proceeding. >> mitch mcconnell from here on out is the single most important person to this impeachment. he is judge and juror. and he's the most powerful judge in controlling the senate majority. he'll have the primary say over how this thing runs and he's one of 100 jurors who happens, he's almost boasting that he's in complete coordination with one of the parties to this. and he has all but guaranteed outcome and acquittal. i know it is not a criminal trial. but a useful point of reference. what if a judge or a juror did that with a party to an actual criminal or civil case. he would be bounced immediately. >> it seems dirty. this is how it happened in the clinto

just like eric rudolph. eric rudolph was on the run for five years and he never went more than eight miles from where he was last seen. >> that's unbelievable. >> this could be a very long, drawn out search. >> think about the communities. they are on lockdown, still, daniel. the suspect could have fled on foot, could have gone by boat, could have gone by car. there are a world, frankly, of, possibilities, and we know, at least, that this person has -- is a person of interest to have killed all of these people, that has the training, the firearms training, the military training as well. so walk me through what investigators, with all those possibilities, what are they doing right now to track them? they must have technology to figure out whether he is inside certain buildings, is the dogs, what do you do to tackle us? >> well, i think there is a lot of different leads that are being developed right now. the tactical operations specialist at the command center being led by the state police and all the other e

rudolph giuliani. >> well, yeah. i think it's been well reported, yeah, that's correct he's been in touch with rudolph giuliani. the aspects of that is between the two of them. i think it is great to hear that people like that are coming on board. everybody is coming around and getting on board as they realize what donald trump is bringing to america is something very powerful. everybody wants to be a part of it. >> thank you. i appreciate you coming on. >> i want to bring in republican writer, matt lewis, the author of too dumb to fail. >> you heard donald trump there. you heard jeff dewitt in las vegas. will donald trump run the table or will he hit a ceiling as some insist? >> i think he'll run the table. i think he'll run the table to the point of possibly winning every state from here on out. cruz is ahead by 5 points in texas. cruz might win that state but donald trump certainly has a chance. he is ahead in florida. rubio pose as viable challenge there but i think he'll win there. you look at nex

rudolph went on the run, rudolph had a plan to escape he had cashed supplies of course when he went tohey had gotten wet and didn't do him any good. he stayed away from his social network i think you made an important point earlier. family friends acquaintances, as well as the use of technology the potential tracking of cellular telephones those are things that investigators are going to key in on if they can determine the number of phones these gentlemen have with them that can be a key to their capture, these are two completely different situations rudolph and these escapees. >> thank you, stand by. stay with us i wab the to talk about it. 30 years in law enforcement, to you, matthew, when you look at this what are the concerns that tom brought up this focus has been so far away from the manhunt, how do you get the manpower you need down there to secure this perimeter? >> we're working into nightfall right now, that's going to be one challenge. it's already difficult enough during great conditions at night it's going to be difficult. i think we should remember one thing here. there's

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america loves maya rudolph.g let's bring them together for good and we will be able to sell more m&ms. >> so the spokescandies are on hold. is that why at i should take aw? >> this is what mars is saying, they are in a holding pattern. we will learn in a few weeks. take a look at the timeline that i think gives you the understanding. we are learning about the fate of them in a few weeks. guess what's also in a few weeks? the super bowl is in a few weeks. it's in three weeks. how coincidental that the two of those joinl up together. >> wow. >> you are putting the pieces together. >> i am -- >> like a guy in a basement talking into tinfoil. >> or perhaps like dick tracey at the candy store, okay? i'm putting it together. my father was a former aba. he stofld a case at a candy store and i am solving the case of the m&ms. >> full circle. >> like father, like son. >> yeah. harry, thank you. >> shalom. >> we'll be right back. it has been a long road, but now i'm working for schwab. i love to help people understand the

> we won't let rudolph join in any reindeer games, right?everybody would go, god, we probably should have treated him better back then. yeah, you know, we were wrong. it's, like, yes, that could be me. i could have saved the day and you would all be sorry. >> it is a celeb o nonconformists, which was not exactly the staple of 1960s television. so, in a way, "rudolph the red-nosed reindeer" was really ahead of its time. ♪ frosty the snowman ♪ >> "frosty the snowman." i love it. i'd watch that right now. get it going. i want to see it. >> before i melt away. >> all the things that happen in the song happen to frosty. and then it has that christmas moment at the end. he's able to come back to life. it's like a resurrection of frosty. it's just this idea of having faith that someone that you care about is still going to be able to be there for you. >> "nightmare before christmas." for my son, that is a traditional christmas film. i love that tim burton is part of his christmas tradition. like what could be better? >> what's this? what's this? th

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former u.s. attorney rudolph giuliani launched his formal campaign today to capture city hall. - we're running against a man who's potentially gonna be the first black mayor of new york. - democrat david dinkins has defeated republican rudolph giuliani. [tense music] - in city hall, there was a space in the bowels of that ancient building that came to be known as the lair. that's where the cigars would be smoked. and that's where giuliani's inner circle would watch "the godfather" over and over... [chuckles] and over again. - godfather. - rudy is famously obsessed with "the godfather." - rudy giuliani is a little bit of everybody in that film. one night, he had a showing of "the godfather." and he sits behind me, and during the entire movie, he explains why the life of politics is exactly the life of the godfather. and, of course, in the one story where sonny complains to the godfather that they should be selling drugs, and you see this battle within the family, rudy starts tapping me on the shoulder saying, "do you see? do you see? when you have a disagreement, you keep it in the fami

"rudolph the red nosed reindeer," irresistible. >> everybody knows the song. >> the rudolph story isght, won't you guide my sleigh tonight. >> the idea this outcast could turn around and save the day and everybody would go, gah, we probably should have treated him better. we were wrong. that could be me. yes, i would save the day and you would all be sorry. >> it is a celebration of non-conformists, which is not exactly the staple of 1960s television, so in a way "rudolph the red nosed reindeer" was ahead of its time. >> frosty the snowman, i love that. i would watch that right now. get it going. i want to see it. ♪ before i melt away ♪ >> all the things that happen in the song happen to frosty, and it has that christmas moment at the end. he is able to come back to life. it's like a res re-eurrection o frosty. it's the idea of having faith that someone you care about is still going to be there for you. >> "nightmare before christmas," for my son, that is the traditional film. and i love that tim burton is part of his christmas tradition. ♪ what's this, what's this ♪ >> just the idea

the one that didn't was eric rudolph. >> he was not just a survivalist.bert rudolph was the olympic park bomber and bombed gay clubs and clinics. as police were closing in, ran into the nantahala national forest, that's bigger than some states combined and disappeared for five years, living off the land. getting some help. he woundered out and was caught. do we see mr. pbeam living in the allegheny national forest. i don't think he has eric rudolph skills. >> john miller, great to see you. thank you very much. >>> pga tour leaders in the hot seat. hours from now, facing congress over their deal with liv golf. bob costas tells us what to watch for. (female announcer) attention! medicare has expanded dexcom coverage -for people with diabetes. -if you have diabetes, getting on dexcom g7 is the single most important thing you can do. it eliminates painful fingersticks, helps lower a1c, and is covered by medicare. before using the dexcom g7, i was really frustrated. my a1c was stuck. (female announcer) dexcom g7 sends your glucose numbers to your phone or dexc

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america loves m&ms, america loves maya rudolph., let's bring the two of those forces together for good and we are going to be able to sell more m&ms. >> so, the spokescandies are on hold, is that what i should take away from this segment? they're on hold. >> so, this is -- what >> in a holding pattern. >> they're in a holding pattern and we will learn about their fate in a few weeks. but take a look at this timeline that i think really gives you the understanding. we are learning about the fate of them in a few weeks. guess what's also in a few weeks. the super bowl is in a few weeks. it's in three weeks. how coincidental that the two of those join up together. >> obviously, you are putting the pieces together like a guy in a basement talking into tinfoil. >> or perhaps, like, dick tracy at the candy store, okay? i'm putting it together. my father was a former a. d. a., he once solved the case at a candy store, and i'm solving the case of the m&ms. full circle. like father, like son. >> harry enten, thank you. >> shalom. >> i know

we won't let rudolph join in any reindeer games, right?> anybody can appreciate the sense of feeling left out. >> but then there's a triumphant moment. >> rudolph with your nose so bright. won't you guide my sleigh tonight? >> the idea that this outcast could turn around and save the day. and then everybody would go. god, we probably should have treated him better back then. yeah, you know, we were wrong. it's like, yes, that could be me. i could have saved the day and you would all be sorry it is a celebration of nonconformists, which was not exactly the staple of 1960s television. >> so in a way, rudolph the red-nosed reindeer was really ahead of its time. frosty the snowman. >> frosty the snowman i love it. i'd watch that right now. get it going. i want to see it before i melt away. >> all the things that happen in the song happened to frosty, and then it has that christmas moment at the end. he is able to come back to life. it's like a resurrection of frosty. it's just this idea of having faith that someone that you care about is still