steve hadley is the editor of handoff priest best artist national security adviser the second term of the george w.st bush of ministration. in that capacity as it includes white house foreign policy advisor. he directed the national security council staff and run the inter- agencyes process. these days among his many other roles steve serves on the national security advisory panel as a director of central intelligence the department of defense policy board on the board of the u.s. institute of peace, steve welcome back to the wilson center. it's good to have you here. [applause] >> thank you very much thanks for putting this program together. let me start a little about the beginning of this book which is the spring of 2008 president bush called in josh bolton as chief of staff on said whoever follows me into this office has a big challenge. we've got a war in iraq, war in afghanistan we have the terrorism threat that was before we headed into the worst financial and economic crisis since the great depression. with the president told josh wasn't one of the upcoming transition to be th

hadley or mr. cerasale have, if they have any resistance to that increased transparency, but i'm trying to stay on the good side of the chairman. i'm the new kid on the glock, -- on the block, so i will yield. ..you can charge right ahead. you would love that opportunity. we will go to senator johnson, followed by senator blumenthal. >> thank you, mr. chairman. an excellent discussion. a very good hearing. i appreciate senator booker's good questioning. up ont -- i want to pick transparency. i want to know exactly what the ftc wants to do in terms of, what is your fix and what is transparency to you? context, we recommended the data brokers allow consumers to access to the kind of information they maintained. >> how? >> we recommended in a privacy report last year, possibly through some centralized website, where consumers can go. dma has something like that. daa has developed a centralized website for online tracking and we have recommended that. >> will be on the information plaything? what would

hadley. thank you for your time today. your statement will be part of the formal record. >> make sure the mic is on and talk to clean into it. >> thank you for inviting me and my colleagues here today to talk about cbo's forecasts baseline cost estimates the house and senate budget committees are the scorekeepers for the congress crafting the roads resolution. cbo prepares its forecast and baseline cost estimate to help them carry out the duties. others come from house and senate rules, budget resolutions and the conference reports accompanied legislation. some of the rules require cbo help estimates when that happens it also provides information from other perspectives that the budget committees find home full. we like to hear from you. what information can we add that would be helpful. today will look at our projections and cost estimates, what they are the function they serve. cbo baseline projection looks at spending, revenues, deficit in the public debt. the economic forecast the baselin

hadley, good to see you again. you've asked about the tax cuts and jobs act and impact and i'd like to drill down a little more how that's impacted our forecast. from my perspective and my view what i've seen in the district that that i represent it's had a tremendous impact on the short-term and i believe a long-term impact we've seen, of course, companies like home depot, fedex, starbucks, fulton financial in my area, who are providing pay raises, bonuses to their employees specifically because of the tax reform. and starting this month, millions of americans will be going home or already starting to go home with more, with a bigger paycheck because of the tax cuts and jobs act. so, specifically, what i'd like to hear from you is whether the act, the tax reform has forced any last minute changes to your upcoming economic forecast? >> well, so we typically would if finish our forecast in december before the tax legislation was enacted. so we did not finish it this time and by the time-- we are still working on it,

hadley shows this is a blurry distinction between policy and scholarship. you both are great examples of this. you have incredible academic training we had better academic careers but also your policy experience. could you talk about how we bridge that gap, whether we should bridge that gap? what academic scholars can bring to policymaking and what policymakers can bring to academia? >> okay. so, i thought one of the most revealing moments in the project was a statement made by dick that who is a dear friend and really distinguished scholar at columbia civil military operations. among other things he's really one of the giants in my personal area fields of study. and, we were at a workshop. we will work shopping his chapter. he and i were arguing over a statement or something. he revealed how much of a struggle it was for him to wrestle with these issues. in part because himself have been shaped by a scholar in the wake of the vietnam war. he was one of the first generation of scholars just as the vietnam was ending in the mid-to-late 70s. and of course hav

hadley, herself, was a musician. she played the piano.hey did share a love for art that united the marriage. but there was a kind of intimacy in that relationship, at least the way he presentede presents n retrospect to "a moveable feast" which is one of the loveliest love stories i think i have ever read, a tribute to hadley. as to why they separated, there was the second woman, pauline pfeiffer, and hemingway really had regrets about that. he felt that soon the writer had two women and he loved them both. and he really had difficulty dealing with that. and hadley was very, very generous in specifying that they separate for a few months to make sure that they really wanted her to divorce hemingway and i think in retrospect, he saw her as very, very generous and regretted that he had betrayed her and felt he had betrayed himself, as well, as an artist. >> we are more than halfway through our two-hour conversation on hemingway. we are making a 15-week journey through american history in the 20th century by looking at the lives and works of

this week new terrorism related charges were filed in the case against david hadley, a u.s. citizen who was originally rested for conspiring to commit terrorist attacks in denmark. but now he has been charged with helping to plan the didley mumbai attacks in india last year. darrah binnun number brass within the united states.

hadley on responding to some of your questions, if you may have. to understand the peace offer that president ghani generously made last month, let me first off provide the context. three things are important in that context. number one is the threat that we are commonly faced with. this threat in the mate from, it comes actually from the nexus of violent extremism -- emanates from -- from national criminalized networks and from covert state sponsorship of terrorist. it's not just a threat against afghanistan. it's a threat against the region and by extension against the entire global community. so the starting point for our discussion when we analyze the situation in the region, we must understand that this is a common threat from a common enemy which calls for a shared mission and responsibility. it's not just the taliban and the haqqani network that we are fighting. increasingly, we see foreign fighters associated with at least three categories of terrorist networks, a global terrorist network such as al-qaeda, daesh, the regional terrorists suc

we'll hear from stephen the hadley, the former national security adviser under president george w. bush. live coverage here on c-span2. .. former deputy national security adviser, most importantly for the moment as well for this absolutely fascinating and extraordinary well spoken, i'm going to hold it up just like vanna whites, really terrific and i recommend it to all ofyou . this is a rational serious history. memos and then classifications on a period of time that was hugely important. had things gone differently might be in a different place today but what we're here to talk about and i'm going to reiterate what i said for those of you wanting us, what we are trying to do with this series is to have a conversation not about what we faced 20 years after the iraq war broke out but rather to half a conversation about the circumstances at the time . look at the situation as it happened rather than through the glasses of the current day. what the decisions were, what people were thinking at the time. our first event talked about the circumstances of the 1990s, about operation deser

, steve hadley, national security adviser. very well. condi i'd worked together on the bush 41 nsc when i was deputy security adviser and and i had, as i said, i had known steve since 1974. so i was going in to work with a couple of people that i really knew well and knew. there be any backstabbing, knew that we would work together productively as a team. one of the things that i was committed to that would be easy with condi was. i, i had observed over much of my career, most of my career, the secretaries of state, secretaries of defense, not didn't get along mostly, didn't like other and sometimes really hated each other and and often were not even on speaking terms and and so i was determined and. i've always felt that poorly served the president. so i was the term and condy and i would have a positive working relationship i also had the other my other approach to it was you when you're the secretary of defense you never have elbow your way to the table. you got all the people, all the money and all the want all the weapons

hadley talk about the main threats to national security and discuss the coronavirus pandemic and u.s. policy toward china and russia. this event was held virtually due to the coronavirus pandemic is about 45 minutes. >> welcome back everyone. thank you for joining us for our second afternoon here and virtual aspen. i am very pleased now to welcome to the stage steve hadley and tom donilon who served as national security advisors for our country and to immediate administrations following each other. and jim, will serve the quick introduction, there's tom popping up hello how are you. and there is steve, hi steve how are you? >> tom of course needs no introduction he is currently the chairman of the black rock investment institute and senior counsel at o'malley and myers. he serves as a national security advisor for obama and also headed the obama/biden transition of he is a veteran of many democratic campaigns and of course serves on multiple. [inaudible] steve hadley served as the national security advisor for resident george w. bush from 2005 to 2009. he's a deputy from 2001 to 2000

in fact, hadley finally brought it up. she said i know you're having an affair with pauline, and he exploded. he said if you hadn't brought that up -- [laughter] we'd be future. we could just continue -- we'd be fine. we'd continue. so it became hadley's fault. anyway, pauline was a wonderful person. the poet, elizabeth bishop, said she was the funniest person she ever met. there's a story, can i tell a short story about pauline? >> please. >> ernest eventually divorced her for wife number three, and ernest and pauline had two sons together, patrick and gregory. and it was time for a handoff of the children, you know? so pauline wrote him a letter detailing how this was going to happen, and then she tore it up into little pieces and put it in the envelope and sent it. so if he wanted to know how to get the kids, he was going to have to -- [laughter] >> now, that's creative. did he ever put it together? >> i have no -- he would have to, wouldn't he? >> sure. [laughter] now, cuba is one of the suggests of a recent television

we're really privileged to have steve hadley. both anya and steve are co-founders and principals at the rice hadley gates group, and i will give you just -- i'll brief a sketch of both of their biographies because they're so well known to all of us in this room. anya is a lawyer, a former investment banker, she teaches at stanford university and in government, among other things, handled the asia portfolio for nick burns when it was the undersecretary of state, and she is on the board of advisers which is not least of her accomplishments. [laughter] steve hadley, of course, served as national security adviser, deputy national security adviser and assistant secretary of defense for international security affairs among his many positions and is the chairman of the u.s. institute of peace board. this booking is -- this book is really a wonderful work, and it's important and comes really at an important time when so many of our policymakers, business people and others are trying to determine precisely how to think about india and chi

thank you, julia and to steve hadley for moderating the discussion. congratulations on the opening of the center for geoeconomics. having spent time looking at your goals, the center is an extremely timely and worthwhile undertaking. more broadly, now more than ever, the atlantic council's mission of fostering a strong transatlantic relationship is important. covid-19 has disrupted the economy and our way of life. as the world looks to the future, it's important that we not just restart economic growth, but that the right values guide us in a post covid world. that's why the relationship is so important. it represents over 40% of the worlds gdp and nearly half of the global personal consumption. but it is about much more than the economy. it's a community of values that we cherish and live by and are prepared to defend. our common belief and liberty and democracy makes the partnership a cornerstone of world stability. i believe the pandemic has only highlighted how important our shared values are. i would like to focus the first part of my remarks tod

so that gave the outgoing national security team, steve hadley, condoleezza rice, the ability to work with the incoming team, which was jim johnson i'm sorry, general jones and clinton. and they worked together. it actually prescient because on january 19th there was a credible threat of a terrorist attack on the mall during the inauguration and the outgoing and the incoming worked together to try to figure out how do we result, how do we react to this how do we prevent it and what happens if it happens? and it actually was a great service to our country. what the outgoing bush did to ease the incoming administration on national security issues. i want to go backwards little bit, because i learned to fund presidential fact in your chapter on president carter. yes. that when he first came in, he not to appoint a white house chief staff and like just sort of could have carried during the transition about white house staff in general, which is so because i feel like as a reporter with transitions you spend like tons time trying to figure out, you know, who biden is going to pick to be th

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and ask why they think hemingway and hadley were so compatible, why hemingway was in love with her and why he might have regretted leaving her especially later? >> want to take the had the question? >> they were very compatible to the degree that they both were coming over to france to gather shortly after their marriage and were discovering a whole new world of art and music. she played the piano and so they did share a love for art that united the marriage but there was a kind of intimacy in that relationship at least the way hemingway presents it in retrospect to a movable feast which is one of the loveliest love stories i have ever read and a tribute to hadley. as to why they separated, there was the second woman, colleen pfeiffer. and hemingway had regrets about that. the writer had two women and he loved them both and he really had difficulty dealing with that and hadley was very generous in specifying a separate for a few months to make sure they really wanted her to divorce hemingway and in retrospect hemingway was very generous and regretted that he had betrayed her and himsel

so basically what jack hadley and colleagues to basically say we have to top this off. if we insure than they behave like the others 3900, and i think that in the end because some people were uninsured the whole year only part of the year what they come up with it will add about 122 billion to health spending in 2008 had we had everyone insured. and i think no one has fought with this number at all. as the gold standard we all use. so if you now use this i would say okay suppose we had full coverage in 2010 that would probably add 150 billion to national health spending may be. and the government what may be paid 125 billion of that because some of it might still be coerced out of the people under a mandate. but that would grow. i had let this grow here at only 5%, which as i already assumed everything president obama is dreaming of what have come to pass. in fact, probably none of it will but i just. [laughter] secure that's 1.57 trillion. very close to the 6 billion the cbo, 1.6 trillion. everyone knows this number. you name it, this is the number. now if it grows at

>> i think to the extent with hadley and gates for sure.think also he has been active in programs with students and interns at his own firm but especially at the atlantic council but also with the aspen strategy group. he established fellowships at the scowcroft's school of diplomacy i think it is called. so there is certainly that. what effect they have had so far is hard to know and i don't explore that but he feels very fortunate to have lived a life a life that he hasn't feels that he has to pass these down and has one daughter, one granddaughter. he is intent on trying to nurture especially at the aspen strategy group the atlantic council and getting people and meant touring them. most of these people are probably still fairly young 40s tops 40s tops with maybe the exception of the hadley's and gates but there is some of that absolutely. >> our last question here in the back against the wall. >> you talked a little bit about how were the conditions that he thought extremism and terrorism sort of come about or -- i forget the word. can

in fact, ernest's responsibility -- hadley finally brought it up and said i know you are having trouble and said if you hadn't brought that up, we would be fine. we could just continue. so pauline was a wonderful person. the poet elizabeth bishop said he was -- there is a story, can i tell a short story about pauline? ernest eventually divorced her for watching number 3 and they had two sons together, patrick and gregory. it was time for a hand off of the children so pauline wrote him a letter detailing how this was going to happen and she tore it up into little pieces and put it -- send it so if he wanted to know how to get the kids -- >> host: that is creative. did he ever put it together? >> guest: he would have to. >> host: cuba is a subject of a recent in -- not a documentary but entertainment. it was up and down. it is explosive but began to begin another picture of ernest hemingway. everybody has that different view of ernest hemingway. >> guest: he was supposed -- it was -- he lives on a hilltop, a beautiful place, tropical flowers, he wasn't hugely lovely -- he road welfare but

bush steven hadley now with the atlantic counsel. >> we'll have opening remarks and then switch over to the executive vice chair. i would like to extend a few thanks to some of our partners here with us today, penny, michael margolis, thank you very much. without further ado, i'll turn it over to you. >> well, thank you, julia, and my thanks, also to steve hadley for moderating the discussion. congratulations to the atlantic council for the opening of the center for geoeconomics. after having looked at your goals, it's an extremely timely undertaking. more broadly now more than ever, the atlantic council's mission of a strange transatlantic relationship. covid-19 has affected our way of life. as a look to the future, that the right values guide us in a post-covid world. that's why the transatlantic relationship so important. it represents over 40% of the world's gdp and nearly half of global personal consumption. but it is about much more than the economy. it is a community of values that we cherish and live by and are prepared to defend. our common belief in liberty and democracy ma

so basically what jack hadley and colleagues do, basically say we have to top this off, you know, ife insured them they'd behave like the others, it'd be 3900 and i think in the end, because some people weren't insured the whole year, only part of the year, what they come up with, it would add about $122 billion to health spending in 2008 had we had everyone insured. that's it. and i think no one has fought with this number at all. it's the -- it's the gold standard we all use. so if you now use this and would say, okay, supposing we had full coverage in 2010, that would probably add $150 billion to national health spending, maybe. and the government would maybe pay $125 billion of that. some of it might still be coursed out of the people under a mandate. but that would grow. i had let it grow only at 5%, which i already assumed everything president obama is dreaming of would have come to pass. in fact, probably none of it will, but i just want to be nice. so here -- that's $1.57 trillion very close to the $6 billion the cbo, $1.6 trillion -- everyone knows this number. we've all sai

bush, stephen hadley, appeared before the senate foreign relations committee and expressed concerns over this treaty, and he stated with regard to the bilateral consultive commission -- quote -- "the bilateral consultive commission seems to have been given authority to adopt without senate review measures that -- measures to improve the viability and effectiveness of the treaty, which could include restrictions on missile defense." unquote. it is that element of senate review that this amendment will inject back into the process. mr. president, others have voiced concern that the mandate of the b.c.c. is overly broad. this should trouble senators, and it's why i offer this amendment to place proper limits on the power of the b.c.c. now, i hold in my hand a fact sheet written by the department of state bureau of verification, compliance and implementation, dated august 11, 2010, and i ask that this fact sheet consisting of two pages be admitted into the record at this point. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. wicker: the fact sheet mentions on more than one occasion that change

secretary panetta, stephen hadley, thank you. [applause] >> thank you.k you. >> you bet. >> ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the tenth annual reagan national defense for me. please proceed to the main courtyard for closing reception. thank you. during the break don't forget to visit the hospitality tent and media center. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> life down to conversation on calendaring chinese communist party influence operations in the u.s. we will hear from republican congressman mike turner chose house intelligence committee, congressman mike waltz and china policy advocates. live coverage on c-span2. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations]

i got in to see steve hadley. he read it. he said no, we don't talk to them. that would be rewarding bad behavior. i was in and out of the white house in 20 minutes. not a single question was asked of my trip, who i had seen, how i had gotten the message, why they sent it and that kind of behavior on our part is just not going to get us anywhere with north korea. >> let's go right to the back. right to the back beside the camera. >> hi. my name is elory gordon. i spent a lot of time trading with china early on and my question really is, nobody really addressed the trade issue. why aren't we going to them with some apartheid trade representative? we had something called 807, though you would probably know about that. we traded with mexico. we cut fabric in the united states and allowed duty at this preference to products that came in from mexico. why can't we do something tripart tied with south korea, north korea and united states opening to markets to goods manufactured under those circumstances? >> you know the reason is, sanctions don't permit it. what you'

stephen hadley was george w.bush national security adviser, one of the most distinguished national security advisers as my former colleague hugo dobler explained convincingly in a recent book on that position, historically in the united states. steve also was the coleader last year with former secretary of defense, bill perry with an assessment of the 2010th quadrennial defense review that seems like 100 years ago already in time so we time so we knew it fiscal issues the deficit debate was far different than in the aftermath of the n-november of a drug revolution when the tea party came to town and everything else happened has been subsequently what would like to do this morning is to begin by myself posing some questions to each of the panelists to frame the discussion and then of course go to you because we are fortunate enough to have television coverage today. when we go to the crowd, please identify yourself, wait for a microphone and ask a short question cannot be specific about who you are addressing it t

ip chair, steve hadley, and members of the task force here tonight. they are a talented group of people. they are experts in national security. they are a delight to work with in all aspects. because of their contributions, our work will be improved and helpful in the weeks ahead. [applause] >> please welcome the chair, stephen hadley, kelly ayotte and nancy. [applause] >> i hope you will continue to enjoy your meal because it gets distributed over the course of the evening. we will try to get everyone through the desert court. we'll spend 15 or 20 minutes talking about the report and the reflection of the members of the task force. we will probably do about two rounds of questions. let me begin if i can with the governor. there has not been a major terrorist attack in the u.s. since 9/11. osama bin laden is dead, the islamic state caliphate lies in rubble. so, what is the problem here? why should policymakers be talking about preventing extremism now. >> and we did the commission that did the 9/11 report we talked about three things that needed to be

that the war happened in hadley explain a global conflict and to be able to figure that out and engage the visitor in a differey was important to us in the eisenhower presidential library may have a feel with two really great films actually, we have one film that is more of a graphic, that shows the expansion and contractionon of e landmass is occupied by the allies are the active powers and all of the battles and there's video within it to show some of the battles i think that's a really visual representation of a global war. and how long it took because the film startsrt with materia something it is been a great way for us to reimagine how to tell this tale and had until this incredible epic story. to the people and really just don't remember it. >> you find the challenges with the roosevelt period, ancient history do so many people today and of course many of the issues they face then wincing and phasing out economic upheavals, inequality and environmental catastrophes was very interesting that the issues that are presidents were with 80 years of once again confronting our leadershi

in fact hadley finally brought it up. he said i know you're having an affair with pauline, and he explode citied said if you hadn't brought that up we'd be fine. we could just continue. so it became hadley's fault. anyway, this pauline is a -- was a wonderful person. the poet, elizabeth bishop, said he ways to funniest person she ever met. there's a story -- can i tell a short story about pauline. ernest erecently divorced her for wife number three, and ernest and pauline had two sons, patrick and gregory, and it was time nor handoff of the children so pauline wrote him a letter detailing how this would happen, and then he tore it up into little pieces and put it in the envelope and sent it. so if he wanted to know how to get the kids -- >> host: that's creative. did he ever put it together? >> guest: i have no idea. he would have to wouldn't he. >> host: sure. cuba is the -- one of the subjects of a recent television -- not a documentary but an entertainment. it was up and down, explosive a and sweet, and began to give u

he had steve hadley and others in the office and all of a sudden he was very angry, he turned and saw me and stopped and raised the roof and we both laughed, it changed the atmosphere. now a story. >> host: what about president obama? >> guest: the story of president obama. traveling to africa with him. in the interview with him on air force one. i don't tell the story a lot. it is not about politics or policy. this is a personal thing. when he is leaving office he and michelle obama were leaving the white house, my two daughters had an audience with them to say goodbye. that was special. it was touching for me. not about politics or policy. my children saw themselves in these two historic persons in this white house and donald trump, what do i think about the most? the thing i think about him is can you get the cbc together? i think about why i am in the center of the fire for them because amarosa is gone, the residue lingers. i think about the day i asked the president are you a racist, january 2018 and we are in the latter part of 2018 and people are calling it out. they were angry