national guard. and chief, you were stunned by the tepid response. can you clarify that and tell us how the conversations went? >> there was a phone call that was convened between several officials. chief sund was on the call, literally pleading. there were several army officials on the call. i don't know them all by name. several officials from district government were on the stage. chief simons was pleading for the deployment. national guard. in response to that, there was not an immediate yes, the national guard is responding, yes, the national guard is on the way, yes, the national guard are being restaged from traffic posts to respond. the response was more asking about the plan, what was the plan for the national guard. the response was more focused on, in addition to the plan, the optics, about how this looks with boots on the ground on the capitol. and my response to that was simply, i was just stunned. i have officers out there literally fighting for their lives. we're kind of going through

yes, the national guard is responding. yes, the national guard is on the way. one thing that did not come up in today's hearing but has still not been explained about that desperate phone call the d.c. police described, that the pentagon initially lied about one of the military officers who was on that call. the "washington post" reporting last month that after trump's disgraced national security adviser mike flynn told president trump he should use military force and martial law to seize power despite election results, mike flynn's brother was at the pentagon and on that call. the call where the pentagon allegedly slow walked approving deploying the national guard. mike flynn's brother, lieutenant general charles flynn, has denied that his relationship with his brother was any sort of factor in the response to the capitol attack. but the army has not explained why they repeatedly lied when they insisted multiple times that general flynn's brother had nothing to do with it. that he was not on the call when in fact he was. so to have one of the central figures i

you know, we've talked a little bit about the deployment or lack of deployment of the national guard. and one of the questions for mr. sund or chief contee, in the fact that we -- the district did not have the ability to bring the guard to the table because of frankly marian bowser was not treated in a totally fair fashion in this. this may be outside your lane, but her inability to bring the guard to the table and actually any on the panel, you know, that to me is a reflection of the disempowerment of the district. on a going-forward basis in terms of preparing the national guard, should the mayor of the district of columbia have the power to do that in terms of the hurdles for the federal checklist? >> yes. i absolutely agree with that. >> anybody else want to -- continue answer that question as well? >> we have an established process or the capitol police do to make the request through the capitol police board that is equally as effective. >> i feel like the long-term discrimination against the district, we've seen it in some of the legislation where they did not receive the same k

national guard support.er consultation with the department of justice, the acting secretary of defense approved the d.c. government request for national guard personnel to support 30 traffic control points and six metro stations from january 5th to the 6th. the acting secretary also authorized a 40-person quick reaction force to be readied at joint base andrews. on january 5th the acting secretary of defense and the secretary of the army received a letter from the mayor of d.c. stating mpd is prepared and coordinated with its federal partners, namely the park police, the capitol police, and the secret service. based on these communications with federal and local civilian authorities dod determined that no additional military support was required on january 5th and 6th. dod has detailed the events of 6 january, 2021 in a memorandum published on defense.gov. i will provide a summary of those key events. after the u.s. capitol police ordered the evacuation of the capitol complex, the secretary of the army and t

bush's national guard service record.f a sudden the whole story wasn't about president bush, but about cbs. it was that backlash that ultimately ended the long and storied career of one of the giants of journalism, who will be with us here in a moment to talk about this. but the question that is cbs was addressing in that report, the questions about george w. bush's time in the national guard, those questions really did just disappear in the uproar over cbs and its fonts and the documents that they used in their report. the overall story fell away into nothingness for a long time, not just past the presidential election that year, but for the rest of george w. bush's time in office. now there are three things happening related to that scandal which absolutely engulfed the news media in late 2004 right before the presidential election that year. now three things happening. number one, george w. bush is back as the rehabilitated hero of the republican party who's going to save his brother jeb's presidential campaign. number

the use of the national guard. we know after 9/11, the national guard helped for quite a while. we also know that we have to have a plan going forward as well as consider what happens when we need a greater number of national guard in a crisis and how those approvals are made. those are just some of my takeaways. i'm sure many others will have more. but i do want to make it clear that there are some items of agreement between most of us on this committee. i don't think we should let the words of a few become the story here, because i think this has been a very constructive hearing. and i want to thank our witnesses for coming forward as they did. and i want to thank senator peters. and we look forward to more hearings. thank you. >> well, thank you, chair klobuchar. i have enjoyed this hearing. it's been good and working with you and your entire team with rules and administration committee. i want to thank ranking member blunt and portman and all of the members who came here today to work in a bipartisan way to ask tough questions and to get answers. i want to thank captain mend

national guard? do we have an idea of how that order would have made its way through to sending that order to the helicopter pilots to do what they did? >> reporter: so the d.c. guard is different than the rest of the country, as you probably know, chuck, because there's no governor here, right. >> right. >> reporter: so the secretary of the army is actually -- over sees the d.c. national guard. of course, there's general

members of the national guard.equesting assistance from the national guard and maryland doesn't have authority over the national guard, and most governors do and the mayor does not and you have to get it from the secretary of defense, and the generals were running it up the flagpole and did not authorization, and we kept going forward with that anyway, and steny hoyer called me and he was in a bunker and he was pleading for help, and i informed him i called up the guard but we didn't have authorization yet. we eventually got a call, we were continuing to mobilize and having meetings with our entire security team and a little over an hour and a half later acting secretary of the army called me and basically said, you know, can you come in? i said we're ready to go and we're already en route. >> remarkable. governor hogan you have heard about the defense department about what caused the delay? >> i got a call earlier today from the acting -- it's secretary of defense who just thanked us for our quick response and tha

, the national guard is on the way, yes, the national guard is being restaged from traffic post to respond. the response was more asking about the plan that, you know, what was the plan for the national guard. the response was more focused on, in addition to the plan, the optics of how this looks with boots on the ground on the capitol. my response to that was simply, i was just stunned, that, you know, i have officers that were out there literally fighting for their lives and we're kind of going through an exercise to really check the boxes and it was not an immediate response. when i asked specifically steve sund, chief sund was he requesting the national guard and was that request being denied the response was no, we're not -- from the u.s. department of army was no, we're not denying the request, but they were concerned, they did have concerns. i was just again, stunned at that response. >> thank you. >> senator blunt? >> thank you, chairman. chief sund, if i have your testimony correct this morning, i think what i'm hearing you say is based on the intelligence you saw on january the 3

national guard to the u.s. capitol. lieutenant general walter piatt, director of army staff, who is also on that call, claimed quote, at no point on january 6th did i tell anyone that the d. c. national guard should not deploy directly to the capitol. well, colonel earl matthews was serving as the top attorney for the d. c. national guard on that day, january 6th. he was also on that call. he said those two generals are lying. and i don't mean like suggests that, in a 36-page memo, matthews calls both men, absolute and unmitigated liars. criticize the pentagon's inspector general for whitewashing the army's actions, specifically he says general piatt's answer to members of the national guard quote false and misleading. calls general charles flynn quote he was not concerned with optics outright perjury. as political reports the, pentagon's participating in a secret attempt -- that's the woodruff swan broke the story for politico, she's a national correspondent, she joins me now. betsy, let's set up the point of controver

>> i think we're going to have to make sure that the national guard as i understand it, the national guard are not coming in with arms. they are coming in to help with the crowd control. i think that's good but we're going to have to get the police, the county police department to start backing up. if the crowd is able to just protest, their generally finished protesting and go home. if you start you know, trying to point machine guns at the crowd, you're going to have a problem. that's what has happened for the last seven days now. it can't go on. reverend jackson is right, or it's going to erupt in another place. >> that's my position on this, why inflame it by bringing in another show of force to the national? you say that the national guard is going to be involved in crowd control. are they going to be unarmed? probably not. i mean, every time tlfhere was e curfew and now the national guard. every time there's a show of force, the crowd has pushed back. these people, it seems to me, want to be heard and the reason why they are not being heard is because why? because the wheels of

and around ferguson. >> and hopefully the president will have a question as to where was the national guard. thank you as always. with me political annual lift dyson. michael, there's so many questions i have for you and so many he requests -- questions the nation has about what went down over the past four months when the grand jury was hearing testimony. a lot of people have a sense that the system is rigged or that there is institutional failure. jammal writes that justice for michael brown will not come from the criminal justice system. -- saying this. >> is that fair? and if it is fair, how do we go about changing that? >> well mr. bouy makes an excellent point that you don't expect the wolves who have been eating the chicken to now all of a sudden to guard them, so to speak. and i think it is really interesting to really celebrate malcolm x there. it is interesting to say that yes on the one hand we have to ack nothing th acknowledge that the justice system is how they seek out fundamental process of justice for african-americans and other peoples. on the other hand martin luther king

we've got the 2:36 request the national guard support by verbal question. flynn recommends for d.c. afting a plan for course of action. they say hey, we need people. the national guard does not get sent, and from the beginning there has been a question of why not. >> there has been a question of why it took so long for national guard troops to get to the capitol building and defend the capitol. the defense department's internal watchdog, its inspector general released a report earlier this year that was basically exculpatory. it essentially said that the pentagon did everything it could have done, that senior pentagon leaders were doing their best, and that this day on the whole looks good for the u.s. military. what we have emerging now is a counternarrative coming not from the pentagon, but from the d.c. national guard, the actual group of troops who were called to respond to the capitol building. of course, we've had general walker's testimony. and now we have colonel matthews, who was on that 2:30 call amplifying and adding detail to that testimony. one key point of dissension is

that is the national guard. and we've seen -- the group that shot into the crowd that we were in were minneapolis city police. all right. here we go. we've got more coming down the road. typically we wouldn't move out of the way for this sort of thing because we're not on the road, chris, so we let them go. but this is exactly what happened two hours ago. we were literally standing there. police pulled up, got out of their car, assumed a position in front of the crowd, and started firing. so everybody is now a little bit skittish about what happens when police come. i will tell you they spent three days not getting into a confrontation with protesters. that's a firecracker. not getting into confrontations with protesters. and even at the point where the protesters moved in on that third precinct, the police did go up on the roof, and they fired tear gas and flash bangs into the crowd. but there seemed to be some deliberate strategy not to actually engage with people where not necessary. yesterday all day, you ha

that is the national guard. and the group that shot into the crowd we were in were minneapolis city police. here we go. we've got more coming down the road. typically we wouldn't move out of the way for this sort of thing because we're not on the road, so we let them go. but this is exactly what happened two hours ago. we were literally standing there, police pulled up, got out of their car assumed a position in front of the crowd and started firing. so everybody is a now a little bit skittish what happens when police come. they spent three days not getting into a confrontation with protesters. that's a firecracker. not getting into confrontations with protesters. the police did go up on the roof and fired tear gas and flash bangs into the crowd, but there seemed to be some deliberate strategy not to actually engage with people where not necessary. yesterday you had protesters coming right up in their face and criticizing and getting up in their face and they didn't do anything about it. something changed tonigh

i deploy the national guard. it had already been debunked, the new york times reporting on the evening of january 6th that trump, quote, rebuffed and resisted request to deploy the national guard. in the end, it was my -- vice president mike pence who approved the order to deploy. that did not stop trump, his allies and staff from repeating the lie over and over again. >> even in january that was given as many as 10,000 national guard troops were told to be on the ready by the secretary of defense. that was a direct order from president trump. >> a few weeks after that, trump said it again in an interview on fox news. this time trying to dump the blame on nancy pelosi. >> i definitely gave the number of 10,000 national guards. i think they should have 10,000 of the national guard ready. they took that number, from what i understand, they gave it to the people at the capitol, which is controlled by pelosi. and i heard they rejected it because -- >> of course that new part, also completely untrue. fabricated. trump

not being stopped by national guard. keeping an eye out just to see, but there is not any police or official presence around, rachel. >> we will stick with you, ali, over the course of this hour. keep us apprised my friend. ali in the streets of minneapolis right now. i want to bring into the conversation right now the mayor of the great american city of st. paul, minnesota. mayor carter, born and raised in st. paul, served on the city council and elected to the city's first african-american mayor three years ago in 2017. mr. mayor, it is an incredibly difficult night in your city. thank you for taking the time to be with us for a couple of minutes. >> thank you so much. it is an incredibly difficult week. it is an incredibly difficult year in our city, in our country right now. >> let me ask you about the immediate situation on the streets right now. you and your fellow mayor of minneapolis, mayor frey, announced curfews today, that would have gone into effect within the past hour, and should have kept people off the st

there's national guard at the courthouse. someone's going to have to come up with something that sounds like an explanation about what's happening. the idea that the fbi is involved in this, the minneapolis bureau of apprehension, the county attorney as you said, the local police, nobody seems to be able to take all of this evidence that has come together in three videos at a minimum but there are more when you look at all the surveillance video. there's a lot of story there. and someone's got to explain what's going on. i don't think that what i saw tonight was a -- it was a powder keg. and i don't think it can withstand another full day of non-answers. and that earlier press conference today was remarkably unsatisfying for people. again i don't know what us j tis looks like. i'm not an investigator and i don't know whether murder charges are appropriate but something has to lookic loo it's happening when the country sees a video of a man who was in the word of a man on the chris jansing show narrating his own death on video

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yes, the national guard is on the way. yes, the national guard are being restaged from traffic posts to respond. the response was more asking about the plan that, you know, what was the plan for the national guard. the response was more focussed on in addition to the plan, the optics, you know, of how this looks with boots on the ground on the capitol. and my response to that was simply i was just stunned that, you know, i have officers that were out there literally fighting for their lives and we're kind of going through, you know, what seemed like an exercise to really check the boxes and it was not an immediate response. when i asked specifically, steve sund, chief sund was he requesting the national guard and was that request being denied, the response was, no, that's nothing the u.s. department of navy was, no, we're not denying the request but they did have concerns. i was just stunned at that response. >> describing what it was like to be in the thick of the devastating battle that day after rushing to work two hour

we have state police with national guard over here. miguel is going to go to the right a little bit on i-35 which is completely shutdown to traffic. look at all the police, look at the lights. miguel, i watch your back. take a spin around and show brian what we're looking at now. we have a large assembled crowd of vehicles, people who are not moving. people who moved across the bridge and down the other ramp to i-35. so we've got what approaches a standoff, but the protesters fully understand now after last night what is likely to happen. and we don't know what the plan is, whether the police are going to move in to disperse the crowd as they did last night with rubber bullets and with tear gas. we're preparing nor that by having masks on. but there is a possibility the alerts went out that the curfew is now in effect and you are liable to be arrested. it was very specific that anybody who breaks curfew will be arrested. so right now we've got people who are riding around, alerting protesters to the idea that there is a likelihood of b

, 21,000 national guard troops will be here by inauguration day. now, according to the commanding general. to give you a sense of where we are, the capitol right behind me and we have gotten multiple layers here, multiple streets and layers of security. concrete barriers, national guard troop carriers on every single block and as we showed you yesterday and as we've been shooting for the last couple days national guard troops carrying their semi-automatic weapons, m-4s as well. this is the strictest security we have ever seen in washington, d.c. for inauguration. in fact, i will tell you that

you can do two officers and put four national guard with them. if the officers decide to make an arrest they have some help. how are they going to be arm snd will they have rifles? in the '60s we had multiple shootings and deaths from a lot of shooting and rioting. we're not seeing that here so it will be interesting how they decide to deploy the guard. rifles are probably not necessary in my view. more riot gear, manpower, and back up. people that can help arrest them, cup them and put them in the back of police patty wagons. >> jim cavanagh, we appreciate your time today, thank you very much. >> more ahead on developing news out of missouri here on "the daily rundown." first a look at today's planner. michael brown's family will speak to the press. later the president meets with his attorney general eric holder. >>> i believe the continuing resolve of the good people of this community will ultimately triumph over the few people focusing on violence and destruction. this is charlie. his long day of doing it himself starts with back pain... and a

nor yet have the national guard back inside the park.assed here a little bit chris, going to keep moving back. but we've got gas cannisters, pepper spray. police are trying to disperse the crowd that's been out here -- first six hours of the day, peacefully but the situation has changed here. trying to keep on the edge here, not get caught up in anything. even more unsafe than this. chris. yeah. definitely getting the pepper spray experience now. tony, stop here if we can. see what we've got here. in the same boat. park police, get a shot across the park, tony. park police trying to maintain this barricade all night long. think of this as northernmost end of the white house complex. that's how it's been treated all night long by park enforcement. protesters and police have coexisted reasonably well along that barricade all night but as things have escalated, protesters getting more and more aggressive along the barricade, park police apparently had quite enough of this. [ no sound ] >> we seem to have lost audio now with our crew there.

again, the national guard has been called out today. e guard is primarily, i guess, defending would be the right word, the police operation center which police said was threatened by protesters over the course of the weekend. we're watching this unfold tonight. it's about 80 degrees and it's not raining for the first night in a few nights in downtown ferguson. we're going to speak with an attorney for michael brown's family, coming up next. stay with us. long we've been talking about the most important social issues. savannah: education. al: conservation. chris: uniting the nation. jim: with a bit of imagination. the more you know. but if you do... [ glass breaking, dog barking ] ...with allstate, your rates won't go up just because of it. claim rateguard from allstate. your home protects you, protect it back. your home protects you, so factors like diet can negatively impact good bacteria? even if you're healthy and active. phillips digestive health support is a duo-probiotic that helps supplement good bacteria found in two parts of you

and the national guard all started moving backward. they walked backward for well over a mile or mile and a half as far as i can see. at one point, they stopped and sort of did running battle with the protesters with tear gas, and the protesters just did not pull back. i had a mask, but the protesters didn't have masks. they just stood there and stood there and kept on moving forward, and eventually the national guard and the police have dissipated. they walked down major stretches of the city all the way to downtown, from south minneapolis into downtown. there are crowds of people assembled including just beyond this bridge where those lights are. various parts of the city, there are groups that have assembled. but the idea of a curfew, i can guarantee you because we've been on the streets since the curfew began, is not in place. for whatever reason, and we do not know whether, brian, this was a strategic decision on the part of the national guard and the police and the mayor, to say let's dissipate the crowds or whether the protest o

you know, casey, not just the texas national guard. you have the marines who are here with their amphibious vehicles, lots of different agencies contributing. an enormous effort to coordinate all of these groups and to get help to people as quickly as they need it. casey? >> steph, thank you so much for that. we'll keep an eye on what is happening with you down in beaumont, texas. also, in texas, four megashelters currently operating across the state, three in houston, and one in dallas. so far at least 32,000 texans have been housed in emergency shelters. this morning, femme fema says than 8,000 families have been located to hotels in the area. joining me is the ceo of the american red cross of texas gulf coast, dave brady. he's at the george r. brown convention center in houston, one of those major shelters. david, give us just a sense of where things are there. how people are feeling and how big your operation is on the ground. >> well, our operation here at george r. brown is a partnership with the city of houston and mayor turner

the national guard is being deployed. there is a curfew that has been put in that i believe applies to juveniles from 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. folks have to have a reason to be on the street. larry hogan just elected, a republican governor, following. i want to say also we are now -- we also shouldn't lose sight of the fact that there are parallel investigations happening into the death of freddie gray. i don't know if we have the footage of his death which has been rolling quote a bit. as of this late date we know there was the spinal chord injury. we still don't know in the 45 minutes he was in police custody, we still do not have a definitive account of what happened. the gray family lawyer has issued a statement begging people to stop this. there was widespread calls for a wind of peaceful observation, silenced moratorium mourning today in the wake of the funeral. that has not been the way things turned out. now we will get a state of emergency. michael, i'm curious, there are calls and you can see them and the questio

it's not always the national guard in this case. it is the national guard. the reason it's associated with national guard is to make sure we have the capability to do the mission that's being asked. so yes, we are always in support of the local leadership. the local civilian leadership. i have no authority to self-deploy the minnesota national guard anywhere in the state. i have no authority whatsoever. and so i follow exactly what you laid out. civilian leadership, civilian elected officials make the request and then we work with them. because if i'm not accomplishing their task and their mission, i risk failure of mission. i also risk the chance that i might break the law. right? i can't just march my soldiers down into minneapolis and say, hey, this is what john jensen believes we need to do. that's not how our government works and that's not how our military responds and reports to legitimate civilian leadership. and so what you asked is exactly right. that's exactly how it's supposed to work. >> we were told in the morning by mayor frey for the proteste

that looks like a national guard vehicle. looks look a national guardman there. providing command center security is not the same as them being on the front lines confronting protesters as, as members of the united states armed forces. i want to bring in msnbc.com national reporter doing incredible work on the ground for days now. in ferguson. trumane. thank you for joining us, where are you. what can you see? >> i'm at the corner of west florissant and ferguson. into the far from the police officers. the peace is hanging by a thread here. a few minutes ago, a car came down the street. immediately all the officers start yelling. automatic rifles. the people who are trying to walk in the street. they're being told to get back. get back. now we are a little further down from the, from the quick trip market where we heard loud bangs about, 10, 15 minutes ago. several of them. for my understanding there could be gas deployed down that way. you know, even further back. i know a gentleman. again, he got out. seemed to be bleeding from his hand. there were reports that

national guard. the scope of the request by the mayor must be limited to supporting the district's local jurisdiction and authority which excludes entities -- which excludes federal entities and property. third, since mayor bowser declared a public health emergency last march, the district has not issued permits for any large gatherings. although the district and mpd take pride in facilitating the exercise of first amendment rights by all groups regardless of their believes, none of the public gatherings on january 5th and 6th were issued permits by the city. on the morning of january 6th mpd was prepared to support our federal partners with a first amendment assembly that was held primarily on federal land while continuing to patrol and respond to calls for service throughout d.c. based on our experience with prior demonstrations after the election, we recognize that there was a possibility of violence, especially after dark and smaller groups of protesters gather wd malicious intent on our city str

the national guard is responding. yes, the national guard is on the way. the response was more asking about the plan, what was the plan for the national guard. the response was more focussed on in addition to the plan the optics about how this looks with boots on the ground on the capitol. and my response to that was simply, i was just stunned that, i have officers that were out there literally fighting for their lives and, you know, we're kind of going through what seemed like an exercise to really check the boxes. and there was not an immediate response. >> let me be clear, optics as portrayed in the media played no role whatsoever in my decisions about security. and any suggestion to the contrary is false. safety was always paramount when making security plans for january 6th. we did discuss whether the intelligence warranted having troops at the capitol. that was the issue. and the collective judgment at that time was no, the intelligence did not warrant that. >> there's so much to go through there, mika, but i just want to go back to the staggering nu

he had a number of trained men and women of the national guard who by the way are guarding us today and tomorrow when we come in to do our work to get the covid package done. they were ready to go. he waited. he waited. he waited. yes. this raises many other questions and there are many ways we can get those answers. additional hearings, interviews, written questions. clearly we were left with a big fat question mark about what the motivations were. the head of the d.c. national guard, who was incredible today. his theory is that they were concerned somehow of how it would look. concerned that it would get the protesters going more. there was a moment everyone in the world saw it on tv. when they made the call it was already on the tv the glass was breaking and they breached the lines and they were entering the capitol. bear spray and stun guns. to just delay at all is what shocked the head of the metropolitan police when he testified and this general said the same thing. they should have immediately made the decision. people say it doesn't matter. you look at the people there that were

that you authorized dc national guard troops to deploy to the capitol.president's call? >> no. i asked to provide all necessary support civilian and local and federal law enforcement at -- i gave approval at 3:00 p.m. and the order was issued at 3:04 p.m. >> mr. miller, your order to deploy came only 24 minutes after the vice president called you and your testimony is that they are unrelated? do i have that right? >> i'm sorry. you're going to have to say that again. >> that's hard for me to believe, but i'm going to move on. >> what's the question? >> excuse me. mr. rosen, let me now turn to you. you were the acting attorney general on january 6th, and you reported directly to the president. did you speak to president trump on january 6th at all? >> i did not. i did not require any authorities that the department didn't already have. >> well, i think that the lack of direct communication from president trump speaks volumes. president trump swore an oath to protect the constitution and to execute his duties as commander in chief. when his supporters atta

we know the national guard is on scene. i seen guardsmen today helping to protect the fire crews now extinguishing the flames from last night. you also have some county sheriffs here. again, what people continue to tell me and as i have conversations with people who are coming out and assessing the damage, they continue to say what could have avoided this and what could not solve the problem completely but dramatically help the tensions is the arrest of those four officers involved in the death of mr. george floyd. they continue to say that is what they want to see. even people who are annoyed and frustrated and angered by the rioting that you see, the destruction of businesses, they continue to say their heart goes out for the floyd family. that is where the pain is. that's the saddest of the community, again, another night where you saw peaceful protests by day, turn into clashes by evening and destruction by night, craig? >> shaq, we've also got this new video from a different angle of the initial interaction between geo

we have created a request for the national guard to substantially increase the number of national guard officers that would be available. and we have reassessed our strategy in terms of our ability to mobilize mobile field forces that have been effective in moving against what is now an armed and more entrenched grouped of protesters, and what i would really operate and say more that they are an entrenched group of rioters. we have had officers that have been injured. none seriously at this point. but we have not given up our efforts to try and clear those streets. we will not give up our efforts to clear those streets. we are committed to restoring order in minneapolis, helping saint paul maintain order. and we're getting ready for what will be one of the largest crowds that we have ever heard and recognize we'll be at the center of not just a statewide event, a national event, but what is looking to be an international event tomorrow. in that same area that we're holding right now in the area around nickolett and lake. i'd ask john jensen, minnesota national guard, to provide his comm

ambulance was escorted by national guard. fire trucks, several when we started to talk, saw them escorted by national guard. still some fires and protest activity around the city but largely died down. this is city that's been dealing with protests tuesday night, thursday night, friday night and tonight. but tonight was peaceful, there wasn't looting, smashing of anything going on. and police have taken the most aggressive role they've taken all week. government, governor, mayors of st. paul and minneapolis and others have said they're bringing in reinforcements to keep the streets of minneapolis quiet tonight and it looks, chris, that they have achieved that. >> all right. one good thing, peace on the streets. but going to be a lot of after action questions asked tomorrow for sure. >> reporter: yeah. >> we're glad you and your crew are okay and grateful for you being out there to report for us, ali. thank you. also want to go to new york city now, been a lot of activity there as well. waiting to get richard lui up, do we hav

that looks like a national guard vehicle. looks look a national guardman there. providing command center security is not the same as them being on the front lines confronting protesters as, as members of the united states armed forces. i want to bring in msnbc.com national reporter doing incredible work on the ground for days now. in ferguson. trumane. thank you for joining us, where are you. what can you see? >> i'm at the corner of west florissant and ferguson. into the far from the police officers. the peace is hanging by a thread here. a few minutes ago, a car came down the street. immediately all the officers start yelling. automatic rifles. the people who are trying to walk in the street. they're being told to get back. get back. now we are a little further down from the, from the quick trip market where we heard loud bangs about, 10, 15 minutes ago. several of them. for my understanding there could be gas deployed down that way. you know, even further back. i know a gentleman. again, he got out. seemed to be bleeding from his hand. there were reports that

you served in the national guard.follow on nick's question, were you surprised that a medical helicopter from the d.c. national guard was used to intimidate people who were peacefully assembling. you asked to look into who tasked the helicopter. was the hoerelicopter under the authority of the department of justice? is that why there's murkiness of how it was used in an aggressive form? >> yes, those are some of the details we have to work out. you made a statement that it was to intimidate protestors. i got a report back that they were asked by law enforcement to look at a checkpoint, a national guard check point to see if there were protestors around. there's conflicting reports. i think we need to let the army conduct its inquiry and get back and see what the facts are. >> reporter: when you looked at the video -- >> look, i think when you're landing that low in a city, it looks unsafe to me, right, but i need to find -- i need to learn more about what's going on. it would not be unsafe if they were picking up some

the national guard came in about 3:00 a.m. for context, about 345 arrests throughout the entire weekend. and the reality of this, you have about three active groups at play here in philadelphia. one, you have the fortified police presence and the national guard which you see behind me. two, you have the group of peaceful protesters that move throughout the city and they really asked people to keep their attention on getting justice for george floyd. they also talked about the injustice that african-americans have faced systemically. that's what they were asking people to focus on. and then this third and separate group that's been responsible for a lot of the violence and unrest and looting that you have seen images of. so you're waking up this morning to a philadelphia that is confused. that is hurt as i've been talking to police officers who were here last night. they were in the 13th hour of their shift. and then you have the protesters confused about some of the looting that they're seeing and the conflation between those

we have seen protesters squaring off with national guard and police. we saw police moving into lines. the national guard forming a line behind them. 15 or 20 minutes ago the protesters left the scene of the police department. it appears there was a police car set on fire. that briefly burned. that was put out. that live shot largely an empty scene. a new protest tactic that has been employed by many of the naup violent protesters across the country is to shut down highways. it happened in los angeles. it's happened in new york where i mentioned fdr drive was shut down. tonight the officials pledged a far more tern response to the protest. we have seen more police in the street. we have seen far, far fewer protesters or anyone, really, out on the street tonight in ferguson. there are three people who were directly involved in the incident august 9th. michael brown the unarmed teenager who was shot down by the police officer. he was walking down the middle of canfield avenue when with he encountered the police officer. a few days after michael brown's de

because the national guard is coming. some are wondering, even the young guys out in the street, so-called criminal element, who is buffering the ongoing battle between them and the sflees some people said while the elders and a whole generation of people are in churches right now having speeches about what the problem is, they aren't addressing the young people. and at night when the violence is at the height, they are left all alone and leaders, they are begging leaders to come and give them a framework to express themselves and take action that's other than violence. so again, the tension here is increasing. here at ground zero, we'll see how it all plays out. >> trymaine lee, thank you. a lot of questions as to why it is taking so long to do the official autopsy. attorney general eric holder will be briefing president obama within the hour on the situation in ferguson. the department of justice requested a third autopsy of michael bron. this one done by the federal government saying in a statement, due to the extraord

national guard. general saying seconds mattered.hrough what we heard from him, what new details we have learned over the past hour and change. >> reporter: i think the most interesting thing we are learning from the commander of the d.c. national guard is the ways in which he says his hands were tied by the department of defense in that week, the days leading up to january 6th and on that day. he says that if he wanted to move a traffic stop, three guys helping d.c. police conduct traffic clearing operations or a traffic checkpoint, he would need authorization from the secretary of the army. that far up the chain of command to move three guys in a truck. that same kind of bureaucratic hamstringing prevented him from responding as quickly as he would have liked on january 6th. if it had been up to him, he minute he got a phone call from capitol police chief sund, he would have told all guardsmen operational at that time, go to the capitol, find the senior most capitol police officer and report for duty. instead, he had to wait hours

garrett, i know you are near the national guard trucks. latest. >> hey, bill, yeah, we are watching the national guardsmen. they are going block by block, house by house, peeking in windows, making sure no one gets left behind. the water depth is hit or miss. in some places over my knee. in some places you can walk down the street in flip-flops. folks have gotten trapped in neighborhoods like this, surrounded by water in the low lying areas and by the river, which is a few blocks back behind the camera position. they have found folks who have been here for various reasons. they have pets. they have elderly neighbors. i talked to a man who has been here 30 years, thought he was going to stay overnight, spent the night in his chair with water up to his ankles in his living room. this location here, i don't think is going to be particularly affected by the tide, but affected by the rain we keep getting. this time yesterday, ifts talking how it wasn't a rain event. things have changed here. we have not had a break in this rain since last night

we've got by inauguration day now the national guard saying 21,000 national guard troops will be here, thousands of them are already here as you know, creating a perimeter around the entire not just the capitol but the -- but blocks extending out from the capitol. then you have layers of police roadblocks and police officers. i mean, this city is on virtual lockdown right now and very safe. but it does underscore the threat that the fbi is talking about, the capitol police are talking about, ongoing multiple threats by these right-wing extremists and white supremacists and anti-semites talking about launching more attacks not just in d.c. or against d.c. but nation wild. by the way, in charging documents, you may have seen earlier today that one of the protesters, one of the attackers who's gotten a lot of attention, the guy who was wearing horns and body paint and face paint, jake angeli, also known as jacob chansley, the charging document from the u.s. attorney says his intent and others were to capture and assassinate members of the united states government. that obviously sets up

missouri national guard. i'm here to oversee the national guard response. we have a well trained and well seasoned soldiers assigned to command headquarters here. our soldiers have been well trained and have overseen many missions of state response over the years and well equipped to handle this mission and well resourced. thank you very much. >> as we gather together the scene this afternoon, let's ask the lord to be with us and be strengthened with ugs as we pray. you have reveal your glory to all nations. god of power and might and wisdom and justice, laws are enacted and judgments decreed. we commend to your mercy all of citizens of the united states that we may be blessed in the knowledge and blessed and made wholly in the observance of your wholly law and made preserved in union and peace which the world cannot give. may we be admitted to those which are eternal and pray to you our lord and god forever and over, amen. >> thank you, father. >> you've been listening to a joint press conference, missouri h