now they did the same thing with meriam yehya ibrahim ishag and you did such a great job and fox didering it that ultimately she was released. we're hoping the same thing happens here. the trial actually starts back up it looks like tomorrow or tuesday where the actual defense will be put on. so defense will be made. but it's like defending jello. there's no real charges here. they went on the pastor's computers and the evidence they submitted were their sermons. nothing about government anything. the fact is these cases, if you don't get them in the national attention, these two gentlemen would be facing these two pastors would be facing death. that's the penalty for this. >> i understand there's been some complications. you talked about national accords, treaties and agreements that sudan has signed on to but not letting them see their attorney for see them but 15 minutes before the trial. arresting the attorney himself. there's so much more. we'll push out the word on this case and as you said sometimes the publicity is what makes a change. i want to talk to you about another case