>> rose: david mamet is here. he's an award winning playwright, screen writer, director and author. his brand of dialogue is has entered the lexicon and mamet speak. he is best known for his pulitzer prize winning play "glengary glen ross" and movies such as "wag the dog." here's his look at some of his work. >> are you the guy that broken? >> no. >> don't sweat it, george, you know why? >> no. >> you have nothing to hide. >> when i talk to the police i get nervous. >> you know who doesn't? >> who? >> thieves. >> why? >> they're ensured to it. >> you think so? >> yes. >> what should i tell them. >> the truth, george. always tell the truth, it's too t easiest thing to remember. >> i can read the book, let's be frank. it's probably almost definitely unsuitable. it probably is artsy. but as you said, maybe it isn't. you read it, you tell me and i'll tell rolf. and then you're right. at least we looked. >> i'd be flattered to read it. thank you. >> no, no, thank you. i'll need a report on it. >> of course. >> by tonig

>> rose: yes. >> no. >> rose: what's an american-style democracy. >> well, first amendment says you can say anything you like. >> rose: yeah. you cannot have that. >> you cannot with religion, race, and culture. they are forbidden. they are sensitive gut issues that cause a stir. >> rose: do you wish you'd had a bigger fish bowl to achieve your miracle in. this is a small island. it's 40 minutes from one end to the other. >> it's very difficult to have a little piece of jade. >> rose: lee kuan yew for the hour. next. every story needs a hero we can all root for. who beats the odds and comes out on top. but this isn't just a hollywood storyline. it's happening every day, all across america. every time a storefront opens. or the midnight oil is burned. or when someone chases a dream, not just a dollar. they are small business owners. so if you wanna root for a real hero, support small business. shop small. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: this is singapore's white house. except it's not a residence, it's a place

>> rose: but i am trying. >> rude! >> rose: no. but there was a point in which you had -- you weren't getting evaluate roles, great roles and you thought maybe this is not going to be as food as i believed it was. >> i mean you never know. i have been so, so lucky, to have done two projects .. in the last six years that have worked. >> rose: yes. >> i mean, and one has been homeland and, you know, that has been a three-year gig. but, yeah, no, it is always -- it is always impossible to know if you are -- if your intentions are going to be realized. >> rose: but was there a point in when you had a series of things this which you weren't getting the good roles and everybody is thinking about you first when they thought about -- >> no, not at all. >> rose: roles like carrie matheson? >> right, right. no. there was -- and i think there was a transitional period too, i mean, i didn't work for three years when i went to school and that was damaging. >> rose: out of sight, out of mind. >> absolutely. so i lost a lot of momentum, yu know,

>> rose: welcome to the program. to want, the extraordinary publishing phenomena of stieg larsson, the swedish writer whose books are international best-sellers. we talk we have gedin, larsson's editor and sonny mehta, the editor-in-chief of knopf. >> all three of us knew we had something really good on our hands and it was amazing because it was... he hadn't written fiction before. he had written non-fiction. and, i mean, there's quite seldom you get a landscape that is so well written. you could see that he was a very mature writer. he was a writer. >> whatever's going on is going on everywhere as far as i can make out and the eminent peruvian writer said... he said that when he came across these books, he read them with the same total fascination as he read duma and hugo and dickens. he said he turned the pages as fast as he was turning them... as he remembered turning them then with a sense of absolute anticipation. it's the story. it's the ambition of it, i think and it's the central character, lisbeth sal lann

>> rose: no. >> what? >> rose: what? i can't, it is not even -- >> we are in that minute minority, it is an oxymoron, isn't it that do jobs that we love. >> rose: exactly. >> and we are lucky enough to be employed doing it. >> rose: yes, count your blessings every day. >> what a blessing. >> rose: it is. i know. the other thing that i find interesting about this cast is what you have learned from each other. that is the product of a great life in theatre. >> and i it is it is good bit, that is the good bit, you know, that i could -- i couldn't do a one woman show, i would have no interest at all in doing a one woman show. >> rose: you would do one but you wouldn't want to. >> i couldn't even do it. >> rose: why? >> there. >> there is nobody to interact with, and nobody to get ready for. >> rose: you can do that with the audience? >> that's the job but it is a bit solitude, at that, so i wouldn't -- you know, it is work, like we can be doing the same play we have done for 100 -- we have done 100 times, but you do it ever

>> just on fraud. >> rose:. >> just on fraud. >> rose: all right. >> you have two and a half. >> rose: it has nothing to do with the fact nobody will be denied their own medicare payments if they are sick? >> , no here is the situation. >> rose: you are not going to change the -- >> i do think we have to change it. if you want to make it he healthy in the long-term, i am a baby boomer we are justin now starting to receive the baby boomers into medicare, it is unsustainable. >> rose: the ryan budget says what? >> it is a much longer approach of this than i do. >> rose: right. >> i am not afraid to say, you know, we have to, we have to have a means test on medicare. the very wealthy are going to have to pay more of their share. >> rose: so if you are at a certain level, if if you are wealthy no matter what you contributed no matter the fact you have been entitled to medicare if you are wealthy because of the means test you will not receive medical care? >> you will receive it but you will pay a higher percentage for what you get. remember, here is something that most people don't realiz

the charlie rose this and charlie rose that. >> rose: you absolutely told me that.thes... >> but it's not about... again, the very nicest way to keep your brand very vibrant, very obvious very in the customer's view and it is a wonderful marketing tool. now, we've just signed with mall mark... >> rose: oh, i know about that. this is a big deal. you're going to have a whole channel. >> yes. and i'm very excited about it because the traditional good value, again, of the hallmark family. i've been watching hallmark specials and hallmark programming my whole life. >> rose: family fare, we might say. >> yes. and so our kinds of information, our programming, our everyday food program, the martha stewart show, the pet-keeping show we're producing, we're doing a whole new version of that. all fits very nicely on the hallmark channels. and we're excited about it. it starts in september. >> rose: there is satisfaction in the doing of the thing. yes you want the recognition but you don't want to buy ten more houses. >> no! >> rose: you don't want to buy a boat. >> not really.

>> rose: jean pigozzi is here. johnny to his friends, he is a businessman, a photographer, an art collector and much more. born in paris, educated at harvard, he has been taking pictures for most of his life. he's just published his first book of photographs in some 19 years. it's called catalog." "vanity fair" has written of him "part 21st century renaissance man, pis pig goez zi is a living exexception to the proposed rule that they don't mike 'em like that anymore." i am pleased to have him here for the first time and it's about time: welcome. we've got a lot of life to talk about. here is the book we've been talk about. why do you call it that? >> well so being dyslexic i don't even know the alphabet from a to z. so i decided i have to come up with a name. so i said deraisonne means organized. and this is a catalog that's not organized. because it's fun. it starts with dogs and ladies and food and travel all mixed up but i think the mixing is quite good. i didn't do the editing. i tried to do it for two years a

charlie rose: yes.ouis c.k.: -- that i sent to them saying the next episode is ready. and then they went to my website -- it was very bespoke, you know, and they went on my website and they watched it. there is nothing else going on. and then they paid me money for their episode -- their bit of money for each episode. and then i went and made more. charlie rose: so, you self-financed this, too? louis c.k.: yes, i pay for everything, yes, yeah. well, what's money for? i mean, that's what money is for -- charlie rose: to spend on things you want to do. louis c.k.: yes, exactly. it's more, to me it's more interesting to do than to have it stored up somewhere, you know, sitting, accruing interest. i could be dead tomorrow, you know. charlie rose: exactly. and if you need money for any reason, you can go out do standup. louis c.k.: i could go on the road. charlie rose: tonight. louis c.k.: yes. so far, you know. someday -- you can always get check mated. you always have to know that at some point one or two

>> rose: in the business world.. >> rose: built an industry?yeah. and started mass production. >> rose: yeah.the assembly line- >> and the invention of the steam engine. i think dustrial revolution in england was a great thing. now is the -- the -- >> rose: information revolution- >> yes. he's a genius. i think he's turned around the whole concept of telecommunication and communication and information technology, and so on. >> rose: is there any sense thas you've h the great success you've had, in your family, you see your country now a prominent player, you see your city, istanbul as sort of o of the great cities in the world -- >> it's become a tourist destination. >> rose: indeed.and it should b. >> people come to istanbul to get married. can you imagine? >> rose: it has a beauty, avibrd history there. you know, the culture is clear. there's a whole sense of what a great place to be, which is part of my affection for the country as you know. >> yeah. istanbul is great. every time i'm away more than two weeks, i miss istanbul ver badly. >> rose: w

>> rose: welcome to the broadcast. tonight, the book editor of the "new york times" sam tanenhawse talks about books and his own book "the death of conservatism." >> what we forget especially during the fraught moments, the tea parties and the anti-tax marches in wahid which was significant by the way, not simply because of the vulgar attacks on the president but because they were denunciations of both parties in all of government by these people. they reminded me of the radicals in the late '60s. you know, who opposed the government.... >> rose: radicals from the left. we conclude with carrie fisher in a one person broadway show called "wishful drinking." i >> i'm proud of myself that i've been able to get through this stuff and i've been able to... i can't overcome it but i can use it instead of it using... i have problems. problems don't have me. you know, i'm a very... i'm not afraid of anything and that would that would not be so if i hadn't had to deal with all that. i started afraid but i'm not afraid now. >> ro

rose t is a pleasure to be with you. >> rose: okay, stop that, mr. rose. so the expectations of doing this. >> yes. >> rose: in comparison to doing it. >> right, of doing jon stewart, of doing jon stewart badly. >> rose: well, no, just doing it we'll get to badly later. >> okay, i appreciate that. no, the expectation, i knew it would be terrifying. and it did not disappoint. and-- i wasn't sure it would be quite as much fun as it's been. it's been a huge amount of fun. >> rose: what makes it fun? >> well, because you get to-- i've worked on this show for 7 years so it's like being a kind of nascar pit crew member. i know how the engine works but i've never got to drive it before. only when you drive it dow learn how fast goes. >> rose: and you also realize it is a finely tuned machine. >> it is amazing. the show is an amazing machine. and a machine that jon has very strategically and int ri catly built himself. he has taught almost everyone in that building how to dot particular version of their job they do so skillfully. so yeah t was-- it's been-- i'm ev

> rose: okay. and we wouldn't want to be pretentious. you saw your... >> possibilities. >> rose: where you wanted to go. >> yes. >> rose: you saw your exploration. >> i thought once the object dissolved into the field it was wide open. >> rose: you could do more, feel more, experience more, have more. >> not me, everyone else. >> rose: no, no, the art. >> yes. >> rose: okay. what was this thing about you and a child and... what was it... butcher paper? >> paper was expensive, it was right after the war and they used to wrap the meat in this pink butcher paper. >> rose: right. >> and. .. >> rose: where are we? >> we here in san francisco and i'm five or six years old and we lived in the sand dunes and next to us was a family and recently a stoptor told his brother henry that richard has had become a sculptor and henry said "that doesn't surprise me, i remember him taking the rolls of butcher paper, unfurling it on the street and making drawings." and that's what i did. >> rose: when did you start ca

>> rose: i'll bet you a hundred dollars or dinner or lunch. >> rose: it's gating cheaper. >> rose: (laughs) no, i eat well. i'll pet you that the most frequent google of you is margaret atwood and "hand maiden's tail." >> oh, you would win that bet. >> see! >> but it's changing. "maddaddam" is now creeping up and i did google today an item that's in the first book which is called "chicky nugs" which is a form of chick than's grown on a headless chick than grows multiple breasts, wings and drumsticks. >> rose: is that right? >> it's fiction. >> rose: it's not in mcdonald's. so you made up a headless chicken? >> i made up a head lech chicken. >> rose: so that's what they reference. >> so if you put chicky nugs on your search -- it says economicy nugs then you find it being used as an item in the language. so it's entered the language. >> rose: what else has entered the lang sfwhaj >> probably "the hearing aid maid's tale" was used quite a lot in the latest presidential election as something republicans should not do people were saying "please republicans the hand maids tale is not a recipe."

yeah, we do. >> rose: and dow it with a camera. >> yeah. >> rose: i do it with voice. >> yeah. >> rose: when did this love affair with photography begin? >> pretty early really. 17. >> rose: yeah. did your dad give you your first camera. >> he did. he had a leica that he had taken around the world in 1937 -- 39y-- yeah 37ee. and it he handed it to me with like virtually no explanation, no, this is how you load the film and this little light meter you remember all that stuff. and i just started taking pictures. and it was an instant love affair. >> rose: with was it? >> what was it well it's st ecstatic. it was-- the joy of looking at a negative you know the fixer is dripping down your arms and you hold it up to tight. and it's just magic. it's still magic. >> rose: it's that more than taking the picture? >> yeah maybe because you take the picture and you just so fervently pray that you got the tenth of a second that you thought you got. and so many times you don't. you get the tenth of a second either side of the one that you hope you got. so reait's when you see the negative that the

the hour, next. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by: >> rose: additional funding provided by: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: dean baquet is here. he is the executive editor of the "new york times." it is the top position in the news room. he took over in may of last year succeeding jill abramson. she was the paper's first female editor. he became the first african-american to hold the post. the digital era has disrupted the business of journalism as many of you know and has presented challenges and opportunities. many traditional news organizations have reduced staff in face of significant competition from digital outlets. the "new york times" has withstood the downturn. last month, reached the milestone of 1 million digital-only subscribers. as it charts its path forward, the "times" is experimenting with a new form of storytelling. the lathest project a ten-minute virtual reality film that tells the

>> rose: welcome to the program. tonight, sir alex ferguson, the great manager of manchester united on football and life. >> the best moment has to be, of course that was the trophy i never won. this is always the opportunity, and winning that, and the way we did it, you can never forget it. i think that encapsulate my life is to have 27 years at manchester and 18 defeat is an achievement. the continuity and the consistency that i created and going out to the chop, i can't ask for anything more. that's for me an achievement that i ever wanted to achieve. >> rose: sir alex ferguson next. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> call to order. the most respective tribute for the man they all call the boss. >> rose: sir alex ferguson is here. he retired as manager of manchester united football club earlier this year. he won 13 premiership league titles over his 26 year career, among many other trophies. "the washington post" has said, compared to john maddon

>> rose: welcome to the program. to want, a conversation about syria with henry kissinger, former secretary of state. >> too much in this country on the issue of how you remove assad. that, i think, is going to happen. but the really important... the key question is what happens in syria after assad is removed. is it possible to form a government that governs the whole country? is it possible to create such a government without it trying to unify itself by a combination of islamism and extreme nationalism? >> rose: we continue with a look at a new movie "hope springs". we'll have the director david frankel, three of the film's stars: meryl streep, tommy lee jones and steve carell. >> you want to feel alive. you want to feel the day. you know, the feeling of being in love and when it first happens to you and how connected you are to every moment, to every sense, to every piece of music. you just... you're more hyperaware and over time people settle for not. >> rose: henry kissinger, meryl streep, tommy lee jones, davi

thank you. >> charlie rose, charlie rose, that's my man. i remember charlie rose, gentle charlie with the two valves. i said charlie, would you get that parisian valve but now charlie can some and sing lavie on charlesie. ♪ ♪ ♪ charles yee rose ♪ ♪. >> that's all for today, ladies and gentlemen. >> rose: thank you and good night. >> good night. >> thanks, boss. >> rose: we got three valves going here, big time. >> three valves. mr. ford came up with a new car. the three valve. >> rose: we got one bovine and one -- >> two bovine, i got two bovine, two bovine, one pig,. >> rose: williams for the hour, thank you for watch watching. see you next time. we'll be right back, our lines are over, marlon brando from heaven. >> rose: we'll discuss whatever. captioning sponsored by rose communications media access group at wgbh captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org

>> rose: yes, i do. >> i never realized. >> rose: and justine. it was said you were a perfect justine who epitomizes the contradictorys of this literary character. >> of course, justine is a wonderful person but you know, we began the film and it was proposed to me and i was very interested and i accepted and after that i don't know what happened in the production it was a time of holiday between tunis where we'd be shooting and l.a. so between tunisia and l.a. they put -- through it away and cukor came, who i knew and was very lovely. i knew him through gregory peck and we went to -- but then he got a little tough with me because he told me that film was not his film. and he knew how to direct women but i don't think he was much in love with justine. and i'm sorry, i think we must never change a director. one director when we worked a lot. we worked for two months you know? >> rose: and you hate to be part of a film in sch the director doesn't love the book or the film or the idea or the character. >> but usually they always do. >> rose: i know,

>> rose: welcome to the broadcast. tonight we explore the creations of filmmaker and artist tim burton, a retrospective of his a is now in exhibition at the museum of modern art here in new york. we begin with the three organizers who put his work into context, they are regendra roy, ron, and jenny. >> as ron was speaking about the entrance to the show, the idea that you walk through a creature's mouth, it's immediately putting people in the sense that they're working into another world. into the belly of some kind of creative carnival. >> i believe he belongs in... with a group of pop artist, with a generation of pop artists inspired by popular culture. mid-20th century on, newspaper comics, greeting cards, he collected newspaper comics and greeting cards. i thought of him as a guy dedicated to horror. >> i found myself distracted by all his artround us that we had no idea existed until that moment when we walked into the room. >> rose: and? >> and i remember thinking bonanza. this is going to be a revelation. >> rose

get you back. >> absolutely. >> rose: >> rose: but the mental part. everybody knew you had early when you went to the u.s. amateur, you had all the tools. but the mental stuff was so important. i mean you wanted to win and you want to win and you also didn't just want to win, you didn't want to win that tournament, you want to beat the hell out of everybody who was there. that was the mind set that you had. you were a killer. a killer. >> winning was fun but beating someone is even better. >> rose: why is that. >> i don't know. when you win a race, you win a meet by a second or two it's a lot better if you beat it by five or six. trying four or five guys out but do you know what throwing it is even better. winning golf tournaments by one or two is great but five or six is even better. >> rose: it must be terribly hard for you to accept this. >> it's been terribly hard not to be able to do the things it would take for me to get to that level. that is simply just practicing. >> rose: you have a strong confident than your dad in hard work. >> no. for me

>> rose: of me.ut because there are things in there that i don't deserve to say should be. that i moved to montana and wrote country songs. although, that's not that far manizer bothers me. womanizer. that's always bothered me. and i think if you really look into all of the times where i sort of went-- it all sort of went dim for me and my mouth kept going and my brain wasn't there, i think it's-- i didn't-- see, i've been me my whole life. i've watched me. you make these decisions in life. you do the right thing. you give yourself a pat on the back. you get the sense throughout your life, if you do the right thing, you are going to be known as a person who does the right thing. but there's nothing like the hollywood machine getting your information wrong. and i give a lot of information. right? i'd be much better off if i had short answers. it's less t.n.t. to wire up. when they inevitably get it wrong, because i'm putting out so much information, this idea of womanizer comes in. and sosay i'm brisl

. >> rose: funding for charlie rose is provided by the following. >> additional funding provided by. >> >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> do you care that they say, boy, lee kuan yew has created a miracle in singapore, but he is an authoritarian, he doesn't care about democracy, he cares little about a free press, doesn't care. >> yes. >> rose: believes almost that he knows what is right for singapore, he knows what is right for the people and that he is going to see it the way he believes it ought to be, come hell or high water? >> let's put it in a kinder more objective way. >> no, no not kinder, just more objective. >> i have to govern now 4 million people. 3 million singaporeans, 1 million are foreigners who get job in singapore and i have 1,100,000 are professionals. >> why do they come there? >> because it is a thriving economy that gives them jobs and their families are happy and safe. no drugs, no muggings, no rapings, yo

secret doors are a big thing. >> rose: lead to where we not know. >> rose: "also in wonderland." >> rose: it opens in august 26, it premiered in the los angeles film festival. guillermo del toro, thank you my friend, great to see you. >> thank you, great for having me here. >> rose: katie, thank you for coming. >> thank you for having me. thank you. >> rose: vera farmiga is here, she first gained attention in the 2004 independent film "down to the bone." six years later, she received her first oscar nomination for her performance as a hard-driving career woman in the film "up in the air." >> i thought our relationship was perfectly clear. i mean, you are an escape. you're a break from our normal lives. you're a parenthesis. >> i'm a parenthesis? >> i mean... what do you want? tell me what you want. you don't even know what you want. i'm a grown-up, okay? so if you would like to see me again, then give me a call. okay? >> rose: an oscar-nominating performance. now she's taken on a new challenge. it's directing. the new film is called "higher ground" and premiered at this year's sun dance

>> rose: okay.ppose, let me say suppose, in fact, you could -- you have already decided hav having reade briefs you pretty much knew where you were going to go unless something surprises you to change you and you realize that the person who was trying to make the argument that you believed in was not doing a very good job of arguing, i mean what would you do? how would you do that? back to your first book and not your second. >> well, my first book was from the point of view of the person arguing -- >> rose: no, i understand that but it was an -- >> well, i think -- >> rose: in other words, do you want to see your side as you believe in, because you believe in it, and that counsel is going to lose? >> well, i don't think i am withdrew meek in this. i am am not unique in this case. they will try to get counsel to make the strongest arguments. >> rose: do you think the united states is well served by the supreme court it has? >> >> you know, there is an old line about the british stiff upper lip. it i

charlie rose enterprises.de janeiro it's considered a brazilian company. very interesting, isn't it? >> rose: meaning we welcome you and consider you one of our own. >> you can go to the development bank and raise money. mercedes benz the other day got a bilon reals in financing from the brazili development bank. >> rose: creating the currency was a big thing, too. >> yes. >> rose: has there been a moment in the last several years in which you said at some point a man who loves his country like i do whose country has been as good to it as mine has been to me should go into politics. >> yes, i do. but right now i serve my country best developing this macro world class infrastructure that i'm building for my country. >> rose: ports and roads and power plants. >> yes. power plants all along the coast exactly. >> rose: if i look closely, do i find any dark sidewith you? i mean, any run ins with the law that i might want to look closely senate. >> no. you know i had a... >> rose: skirting too close to the edge? >>

. >> rose: j.k. rowling for the hour next. additional funding provided by these funders. >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. >> from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: j.k. rowling is here, if you do not know who she is let me tell you, two decades ago she sat on a delayed train when the image of a scrawny black haired be spectacled boy who didn't know he was a wizard came to her, it soon captured the imagination of readers around the world and began and unprecedented full comurl phenomenon, time magazine credited harry potter series with creating a universal detail to detailed and believable that an entire generation has pretty much chosen to live there. it is a best selling book series in history with more than 450 million copies sold, and six, in 67 languages, eight movies have also been spawned and they have grossed $7.7 billion worldwide. now, five years after laying harry pot tore rest, she has written her first book f

i mean-- . >> rose: they have missed it. >> i would suggest, yeah, yeah. >> rose: what did you think her redeeming qualities are. >> she has aspirations. she has grown-up in a household where-- . >> rose: she has dreams. >> she has grown-up in a household where there is no aspirations. no one has given her a model in how to succeed or live a different life. and yet crystal has this lat ent desire to succeed, to achieve. she wants to hold her family together. she's parenting her younger brother, who is being quite egregiously neglected i will their biological mother. so i think there is a lot in crystal to love. at the same time she's pro miss coupous, foul mouthed, pretty ignorant, intermittently violent so i'm not glorifying crystal. this isn't olver twist, someone who has worked on hardship and come out the other side. >> rose: and how much of her is you? >> well, i think it's kind of scary when applied to me because i created something, 200 and something characters in the potter book but they say that every character is every writer. >> rose: but is it beyond that for crystal. >>

>> rose: welcome to our programme. tonight an encore presentation with singapore's founding father and global statesman lee kuan yew, last week he resigned as minister-of-be mentor after his party's election win. he said it was time for the younger generation to carry singapore forward. i spoke with him in singapore earlier this march. we talked about the rise of china, u.s. leadership, singapore's political system and his leadership. tonight we show you that conversation again. >> will singapore have and can it under what you want to see a true democracy? >> american style. >> rose: yes. >> no. >> rose: what is an american style democracy? >> your first amendment says you can say anything you like. >> rose: yes. you can't have that. >> you cannot say anything you like about religion, race and culture. they are forbidden. they are sensitive issues, you cause a stir and you are in big trouble. >> rose: an encore presentation of lee kuan yew next. >> funding for charlie rose was provided by the following: every story nee

>> rose: welcome to the program. tonight, a talk about president eisenhower with his biographer evan thomas. >> scholars have known for 30 years that eisnehower was a pretty crafty guy. fred greenstein sign of princeton, there are books on campbell craig, a scholar from yale, some scholars have known this for a long time but the general public have not. it is only reason in recent years and really this year in a way that people have started looking at him again and saying, oh that is not quite the guy i thought he was. >> rose: we conclude this evening with isadore scharff canadian businessman who found add very successful four seasons hotel and resort chain. >> and the employees are the key, because if we are going to have a customer service focus had to have an employee focus. because it is through them they deliver the product. >> rose: they are the interface. >> they are. they are literally the pride, their approach to their work ethics and their passion for their job. so it was a concept of, you know, we held ou

>> rose: (laughs) >> rose: great to see you. >> good to see you, charlie. >> rose: john mcenroe, stay with us. >> rose: the u.s. open tees off at merion golf club in pennsylvania. the course has been home to some of golf's most memorable moments. this year still provides its own intriguing storylines. all eyes remain on tiger woods as he seeks to end a five-year drought at the majors. masters champion adam scott looks to build on his victory at augusta national while rory mcelroy tries to get his game back on track. chaimny diaz is editor-in-chief of "golf world" and senior writer at "golf digest." he's one of the best and i'm pleased to have him back at this table. welcome. >> thank you. >> rose: one of the best. what's happening in golf? what are the story lines before we get to the open? >> there's so many things this year. there's been controversy. the anchoring decision is a big decision that the u.s.g.a. has done to sort of stop the use of the long putter because they feel it's not a golf stroke. >> rose: you can use it but not anchor it? >> you cannot have it braced against you