. >> liebor day. he said he cut the deficit $1.7 trillion. but the fact-checkers say maybe not so.mittee for responsible budget kind of the referee in these things, predicts that when that fiscal year ends in 25 days from now. it's going to show it's more. $2 billion. >> steve: 2 trillion. >> ainsley: 1.7 trillion. they are saying no at the end of this month we will see that it's up $2 trillion. mike pence was on the campaign trail and says he was criticizing biden's run away spending. the economy is in a downward spiral. and exploding federal deficit, inflation and erasing any wage increases. that's the thing he could say i cut it 1.7 trillion. but when you factor in erase guilty any wage increases and spending and spending money we don't have then that increases it another $2 trillion. >> also, over the weekend, the "wall street journal" came out with a poll and i'm sure you saw a little bit of it, head to head, donald trump and joe biden are tied right now. and the question is joe biden too old to run for president? 73% of americans say yes. he is just too darn old. he made a jo