mr. perry our president a disservice, our country a dishonor, you don't understand the role of the presidency in our national list life. we should all stand behind him. if you don't get that you don't get us, much less the job of representing us, which the president did so well and courageously today.

. >> you know, mr. perry just got into the presidential race. i think that everybody who runs for president probably takes them a bit of time before they start realizing that this isn't like running for governor or senator or running for congress, and you have to be more careful about what you say. but i'll cut him some slack. he's only been at it for a few days now. >> for that nice guy comment, here comes of response. governor perry took a swipe. let's listen. >> yesterday, um, the president said i needed to watch what i say. uh, i just want to respond back, if i may. mr. president, actions speak louder than words. my actions as governor are helping create jobs in this country. the president's actions are killing jobs in this country. it's time to get america working again. >> what do you think he meant when he said the other day, the governor, that he wanted to have the military proud of who their commander in chief was. what did that mean exactly? >> well, i would say this, governor perry is the only candidate in the race with military exper

bachmann or mr. perry could well ride the apocalyptic anti-statism of conservative christians into the oval office." i'll tell you, it's hard to make what to say this is, but go ahead. and last night, here's a heckler. just to prove "the times" isn't off base. president obama was heckled in los angeles out on the strip at that club out there where he was speaking in los angeles. let's listen. >> i want to -- >> christian god is the one and only true living god, the creator of heaven and the universe! jesus christ is god! jesus christ is god! jesus christ is god! [ audience booing ] >> well, that's kind of a benign look, ron christie, but i don't know what a guy's supposed to say when people are screaming that kind of religious zealotry at you when you're giving a secular fund-raiser. >> well, chris, i just think that's entirely disrespectful. obviously, i have certain policy disagreements with the president of the united states, and rightfully so, but for people to heckle the president like that or people

mr. perry's entrance into the race may be a good thing, because it will get more people focused on this case, and i think if you looked at the totality of the case, there's plenty of other evidence besides the forensic evidence demonstrating willingham was in fact guilty. as far as stonewalling the investigation, a forensic negotiation exceeding its jurisdiction and it's appropriate they were reined in to what the texas law permits it to do. i don't think that's really a case of stonewalling. >> governor perry does appear to approve of the execution of mentally retarded criminals. also juveniles. he thinks the juveniles should be executed as well. does that take him outside of the norm of what most americans think is just? >> no, i don't think so. i mean, the law at the time of these cases was that the minority status of the person as well as any mental deficiencies could be considered by the jury. must be considered by the jury. all the evidence can be presented to the jury and the jury was required to weigh that against the other factors in the case. whether we should have that kind of rul

. >> numbs quoting mr. perry has broken political with mr. bush, questioning his cresse denchals, accusing hinge of being on a big government binge, and playing down some accomplishments in texas. perry's public statements exposed a long simmering rivalry. is he to the right of george w. bush? >> sure, i think so. you won't hear rick perry talk about a compassionate conservatism. i doubt you'll hear him talk about no child left behind and put a lot of emphasis on education. >> so he switched from a democrat all the way over to the right, he went right past the bushes. with the speed hi's taking he could -- >> he overshot the moon. is he a credible presidential candidate? i'm just asking. >> absolutely. >> do you think the democrats would like to run against rick perry. >> i think he's more unpredictable, but then again could come across as a buffoonish swaggering texan, and if you look at the polls, americans still blame george w. bush for the economic hole we're in, so any candidate that reminds people of george w. bush comes with a tremendou

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folks are sitting there waiting to see what mr. perry does out of texas.nd, of course, the big p. still waits to see what happens with sarah palin. >> funny, if were you from another planet, mike, you notice that the people are heavy set. the bigger people like jeb, and like certainly haley barbour my pal. heavy set guys, using the right terms, aren't running. the skinny minis are running. i don't know what that's about. must be politically correct to be running these days. i appreciate your -- up next, the gunman in those horrific attacks in norway says he wanted to take his country back for the muslims and immigrants, blaming liberals for pushing multiculturalism. a very sensitive topic. let's look at 9 state of right wing extremism in europe. this is "hardball" only on msnbc.ç announcer ] this...is the network -- a network of possibilities. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice.

by the way, mr. perry, governor, there are nine members of the supreme court, not eight. i wonder if you could pass the citizenship test right now. you're watching "hardball," only on msnbc. ♪ you, you ain't alone ♪ and just let me be [ male announcer ] this is your moment. ♪ your ticket home [ male announcer ] this is zales, the diamond store. take an extra 10 percent off storewide now through sunday. ♪ but the fire is so delightful ♪ nothing melts away the cold like a hot, delicious bowl of chicken noodle soup from campbell's. ♪ let it snow, let it snow i'm an expert on softball. and tea parties. i'll have more awkward conversations than i'm equipped for because i'm raising two girls on my own. i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. but it's for them, so i've found a way. who matters most to you says the most about you. massmutual is owned by our policyholders so they matter most to us. massmutual. we'll help you get there. >>> back to "hardball." now for the sideshow. first up, lesson learned? well, definitely not the right lesson in t

>> let's take a look at one of the weakest moment many people believe on the fox news debate for mr. perry, the governor of texas. he stumbled over what should have been -- this is the easiest, which is a chip, a six-inch putt, and a well-rehearsed riff on romney's politics, and he couldn't say it. let's listen. >> i think americans just don't know sometimes which mitt romney they're dealing with. is it the mitt romney that was on the side of -- against the second amendment, before he was for the second amendment? was it before he was before the social programs from the standpoint of he was far, standing up for roe versus wade, before he was against verse -- roe versus wade. he was for race to the top. he's for obama-care, and now he's against it. >> david corn, i have never counted so many brain freezes in one sentence. >> please make it stop, chris, please! we saw it last night. he's making george w. bush look like the most articulate statesman from texas ever! but as bad as that response was, you know, he obviously had prepared for that line of attack and then couldn't pull it off. >> b

folks are sitting there waiting to see what mr. perry does out of texas. and, of course, the big p. still waits to see what happens with sarah palin. >> funny, if were you from another planet, mike, you notice that the people are heavy set. the bigger people like jeb, and like certainly haley barbour my pal.ç and chris christie. heavy set guys, using the right terms, aren't running. the skinny minis are running. i don't know what that's about. must be politically correct to be skinny these days. i appreciate your -- up next, the gunman in those horrific attacks in norway says he wanted to take his country back for the muslims and immigrants, blaming liberals for pushing multiculturalism. a very sensitive topic. let's look at the state of right wing extremism in europe. this is "hardball" only on msnbc. >> ( rooster crows ) >> by 2020, 50 billion network devices will roam the earth. that's seven devices per person. this will change how we work in ways we've never before imagined. what do you need to secure your people, their devices, and your business? a n

by the way, mr. perry, governor, there are nine members of the supreme court, not eight.onder if you could pass the citizenship test right now. you're watching "hardball," only on msnbc. ♪ i think i'm falling ♪ i think i'm falling ♪ i think i'm falling [ male announcer ] this is your moment. ♪ for you [ male announcer ] this is zales, the diamond store. shop our largest diamond store online anytime at zales.com. is to dig right in. but as his dentist, i know that to do that, he needs to use the brush more dentists use. oral-b. trust the brush more dentists and hygienists use. oral-b. life opens up when you do. by the hand-selected wood trim... the 38 1/2 inches of legroom... and the reclinable, heated napa leather seats inside the jeep grand cherokee, just wait until we tell you about the heated and ventilated front seats. ♪ ♪ >>> back to "hardball." now for the sideshow. first up, lesson learned? well, definitely not the right lesson in this case. remember this week, we showed an ad released by rick perry's campaign that in addition to blaming president obama for a, quot

direction there, because between those two statements, he got this statement written from the perry campaign. "mr. cain is wrong about the perry family's quick action to eliminate the word on the rock, but is right the word written by others long ago is offensive and insensitive. that is why the perrys took quick action to cover and obscure it." i want to go back. sometimes we benefit over an argument over a fact, because maybe one side's right and one side's wrong and then we know who's telling the truth and that also tells us who the good guy is. back to you, wayne. we like to find out who the good guy is in these debates. your contention five minutes ago is the real issue in terms of journalism was governor perry telling the truth when he said way back in '83 or '84, he got his daddy to paint over that word, so he's really innocent, because his first impulse was to cover it up. if that's true, he's clean. but if that's not true, and by the way, how do we find out? will there be people coming forward? we don't all have cell cameras running around hunting grounds. i wonder if there are cell phon

mr. giuliani to secretary pompeo, secretary perry, brian mccormick, chief of staff mulvaney, and mr. mulvaney's senior adviser, rob blair. everyone was in the loop. >> ambassadors volker and sondland and secretary rick perry also attended a meeting i attended with dr. hill. we have not completed the agenda items and we still had time for the meeting and ambassador bolton abruptly ended the meeting. >> he said i am not part of whatever drug deal that mulvaney and sondland are cooking up. he then said that rudy giuliani was a hand grenade that was going to blow everyone up. >> my recollection is that ambassador sondland stated, quote, damn it, rudy, every single time rudy gets involved he goes and effs everything up. he said, quote, damn it, every time rudy gets involved, he effs everything up. >> one of those key figures being discussed, john bolton, and he has gone public in a way, kind of. he made clear being back on twitter this week via a twitter post. he claims the white house had kept him off the platform. let's bring in our panel. joyce vance, natasha bertrand, andrew carny and

across the country, it has been embraced one way or the other by republican governors from rick perry to mr. diehl down in georgia, various aspects of it. how there is common ground. he didn't do that. >> if he hadn't referenced health care and i get the semantic issue you raised and i think it's lejts, wouldn't we be sitting here right now saying ah-ha. didn't go anywhere near the affordable health care act. >> folks know you have 20 minutes and you are only going talk about so many issues. the question is are you going to come there, show some courage, and show that you have thought really critically and not just talk about problems we can agree on but actually talk about policy solutions we can come together on. and he didn't really do that. even when he got into talk about the issue of schools, he didn't say anything but that he would do specifically for our traditional public schools. that's where most of our kids go. >> mayor brown, let me ask you a question. i think mr. gel jealous raises an interesting question. who or what was the real audience today? >> i think that mr. romney jus

that should send a message to perry, but he puts on spectacles and i don't think they appeal even to religious people. jesus said, you should pray in private. >> mrhe hasn't impressed you. rick perry talking about president obama just yesterday in iowa. let's listen to the road show. >> look, i think the greatest threat to our country right now is this president who's trying to spend our way out of this disaster. >> and here she at the same event. he had this to say about fed chairman ben bernanke who i think is saving this country bacon. let's listen. >> if this guy prints more money between now and the election, i don't know what y'all will do to him in iowa, but we -- we would treat him pretty ugly down in texas. emean, printing more money to play politics at this particular time in american history is almost treacherous -- or treasonous in my opinion. >> does this guy "daily rundown" treating somebody ugly? ma they did to addly stephenson in '63. remember that? appointed by george w. bush, the fed chairman. this afternoon perry said he stood by what he çsaid, of course, but a former aide to president bush tweeted this wee spond to his off th

what perry's been saying. >> mr. president, you need to free up the employers of this country to create jobs. get rid of the regulations that are stifling jobs in america. >> obviously, president obama's policies are failing the economy. we took the biggest punch to the gut this week that we have seen in our economy. >> he seems to be more intent on trying to save his job than to try to create jobs for the american people. >> well, that's a great sort of character study. isn't it? you got him going, acting like a country boy dropping his jeans and then bachmann, that passion and then romney. anyway -- the campaign for re-election of the president is beginning now. coming into labor day. looks like we're ahead of schedule. for a campaign slow to start, it looks like this battle, increasingly the front-runner, rick perry against the president. >> those donors on the sideline, particularly those who can bundle the cash, beginning to filter into the perry lineup. you're going to have sigh think a step-up in the game by m

perry. when chad griffin the president of the human rights campaign interrupted with an important phone call. take a look at this. >> the president's on the line. from air force one. >> go ahead. >> hello, mrpresident? this is kris perry. >> and sandy. we thank you so much for your support. >> we're proud of you guys and we're so glad that in california, and in a growing number of states across the country because of your leadership people are getting equal rights. so you guys should be very proud today and, you know, for your courage. you're helping out a whole lot of people everywhere. >> thank you, mr. president. >> it was like nixon talking to the astronauts. we'll be right back after this. >>> today's historic supreme court decision comes two days before the 44th industry of the stonewall riots. they're named after a big riot up here about equal rights in new york city down in the village which gay rights advocates say began the movement for gay rights in this country. it also comes ten years to the day of another supreme court decision, the lawrence versus texas case which struck down anti-sodomy laws. well, the gay rights movement has made enormous gains in recent years and today's

mr. mnuchin, i'm surprised you don't know these things. >>> and rick perry learns about his government. >> after being briefed on so many of the vital functions of the department of energy i