we regulate the labeling including labeling on the foods under the food and drug act. we established that the food is disbanded if it is labeling, false or misleading in any particular. the act also provides that labeling is misleading if it fails to review material facts to the representation made by suggestive of labeling or number two fails with respect to consequences whether that is a labeled use or customary use. historically they are taking the position that the use of the genetic engineering and the food is normally not by a self material information in a meeting of the food and drug act. the courts have held that absent of the facts are the difference fact or the difference in the food derived from the source. the act doesn't require labeling indicating that it's been developed for the genetic engineering. .. is the agency more or less confident today in the safety of the underlying technology? >> it's confidence remains strong. it has been and remains strong. >> how do you know that genetically engineered foods are no different in terms of safety than their c

we regulate labeling, including labelling of ge foods.ablishes the food is misbranded if its labelling is false or misleading in any particular. the act also provides that labeling is 1 one, fails to reveal material facts that are material with respect to representations made or suggested in the labeling. or, two fails to reveal facts that are material with respect to consequences that may result from use of the food, whether that's a labeled use or customary use. the use of jennetic engineering in the development of food is normally not by itself material information within the meaning of the food5@fqw drug act. federal courts have held it absent a material fact. the act does not require labeling, indicating the food has been developed through genetuc engineering. in closing let me reiterate the consultation process for foods derived from ge plants is working well. and provides for a rigorous food safety evaluation of such foods. the agency will be vig lent in ensuring the safety and integrity of the food supply. >> the chair thanks the

been involved in managing food labelling?alse or misleading provision dates from either 1936 or ''i,eñ >> we'll stipulate it's a long time. and how is the fda's role in terms of, if i'm in the food industry, and there are a lot of different people in it, how does the fda's role give signals to the food industry in how to do labelling? they look to you for guidance and consistency, is that correct? >> correct. they look to guidance we issue, and they certainly, when they have particular questions, companies will call our experts in labeling. >> so how do your guidances work? how do you come up with those labeling guidances, and how do >> typically. on a significant issue we would issue what's called the draft guidance. we would call for comments on t we would analyze the comments we receive and issue it in+d÷t5c&@ with or without changes or perhaps decide not to issue it at all. >> and the food industry relies on that. that's where they get their direction for how they do labeling is through your guidances. >> first the statut

it's a voluntary labeling which means there will be no labeling whatsoever. many states are reflecting the desires of their consumers to basically know what's in the product they're buying. and a consumer has a right to do that. they just do. and this legislation is ironic in this sense: if gmos are so safe, and i'm not here to challenge that assertion, but if they're so safe, why not label so that folks who are getting what the manufacturers assert is so safe know that their product will be labeled and consumers can then make their own decision? i mean, my question really is if they're so safe, why would anyone be afraid of so labeling those products so the consumers would have a right to know? now, in vermont we have our assistant attorney general here who's going to talk about what we've done in vermont. three states have passed labeling laws. several others are considering them. there have been referendums that almost passed in california, and it's reflecting this groundswell of desire that consumers have to know what's in the products that they're buying

. >> the same thing on the labeling. if you have -- i don't think we'll have 50 different labeling requirements but two or three states, then shat shows we need a national standard. >> right, the level of complexity with that type of labeling would be an incalculable burden on manufacturing. >> mr. chairman, i appreciate it. >> time has expired on the floor votes so we'll come back as soon as we vote. there are two votes. and the committee stands in recess for the floor vote. >> the time of reassess having expired, we'll continue with the questions and at this point the chair recognizes the gentleman from kentucky, mr. whitfield. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and i want to thank all of the witnesses for joining us today on this very important subject. as a matter of fact, i walked out of this hearing to go back to my office before i went to a floor for the vote, and there were a group of seven people in there wanted to talk about this bill. so somebody is really organized today. but it is an important issue, and mr. offthe

you have front of package labeling larger back of package labeling talking bat lot of labels on one single food you could put a label across the front just like a tobacco product that says this product will make you obese and people are still going to buy the product if they want it. so i don't think that -- i think you're arguing apples and orange here. everyone wants people to be healthier, but in the end they will eat what they want to eat and doesn't matter what you put on there they're going to get what their taster is set for on that day. >> i almost never pick up something that has the label on it and not read calories. >> now recognize the gentleman mr. schrader. >> thank you mr. chairman. i guess for dr. wooten and miss raskof. these rules -- and to everybody -- this rule is not ready for prime time. we have had considerable discussion how it would be implemented. i understand that. and although the rules come out -- [inaudible conversations] >> it's my understanding that there's not been a whole lot of guidance going on, and some of you already addressed this. some of us sent a l

what on earth is no labels? is it a third party effort to kind of ship wreck the republicans and the democrats. is it a bunch of mushy moderates to get together to take over the world? none of the above. come to find that it is a group that respects the fact that we have a two-party system. they are endeavoring to change the center of gravity away from acrimony from the problem solving. it's a lofty objective, can it be done? for those of you who have been around politics for a while, many of you have, of course you can change the operating culture of politics. that in a nutshell is what no labels is endeavoring to do. our goal is to change the operating environment of politics here in washington and certainly among the state capitols because we know many of you have some of the same problems of grid lock. and sort of the blame game and extreme partisanship that we have here in washington. our objective is to change the operating environment of politics -- lofty and aspirational, no question about it. critical f

our tags have a score you have front of package labeling, you have the larger back of package label,ou're talking about a lot of labels on one single food. frankly, you could put a label across the front just like a tobacco product that says this product will make you obese and i promise you people are still going to make that -- still going to buy that product if they want it. i think you're arguing apples and oranges here. everyone wants people to be healthier but in the end they'll et what they want to eat. doesn't matter what you put on there. they're going to get what their taster is set for. mr. guthrie: i'm one, i almost never pick up something that has that label on it and not read the calories. i come from wanning the calories but let's do it in a reasonable way. mr. pitts: the chair recognizes the gentleman, mr. schrader. mr. schrader: thank you. i guess for dr. wootan and ms. raskopf, and to everyone, obviously this rule is not ready for prime time. we have considerable discussion about what it's going to do how it will be implemented, i understand that. although the rules

getting a warning label on soda presumably will help choosing without warning labels.warning labels are not -- are not going to solve to problem but presumably would reduce consumption by several percent and everything -- everything helps. what really would solve the problem is to change the legal status of sugar and high fructose corn syrup. they are considered generally as safe graph of of the lingo of the fda. we put in coffee or cereal or whatever and salt safe, and hydrogonated oil and those turned out to be the biggest killers in our food supply. we wanted the fda to change the regulation so that sugar would be brought down to a safe level in our food supply. so it's general recognized as safe based on the foods in which it's used and so our petition was fairly complicated and it asked the fda to restrict the sugar content of soft drinks to roughly a fourth of the current levels, and we recommended that the fda come up with voluntary targets for other major sources of sugar. so grain-based desserts, pies and cookies, dairy desserts, ice cream, frozen yogurt, cere

, calorie labeling. taking a look at some of your phone calls. how has this affected you? orld you change how you eat why food in a store? say yes this has been a help to you as a consumer, and if not different lines. let us know what you think you can also tweet us c-span. we also have the question on our facebook page we show those comments and a minute or let's couldn't chat, going from indiana. caller: hello? host: you're on the air. go ahead. i think mcdonald's food has way too much fat in it. the labels helped, knowing how many calories are in that food? caller: yeah. host: has it changed what you have bought? a small french fry, and it usually order a sweet tea. has it changed what you buy? caller: yeah. i try to buy things that are healthier. host: does its three away from a restaurant like mcdonald's which has higher calorie food? caller: yeah. host: you are glad to see those calories printed out for you? caller: yes. very much so. we are going to get another caller, cindy in lawnmowers, iowa. c

if you go to any store right-the states that don't label date labels every product has said date labelon it. i think what's great about this is is not taking information way because consumers are used to seeing them and trying to make it clear so they don't have a million different ones. no matter what the labels are i think education is going to be needed to the problem is now because there's only different labels is impossible to educate anyone. i tried. i said here is what you should glean from this and lastly the term was in the national survey we did last month that i mentioned. we checked six different label language and expired on 54% of people believed as a safety label that was higher than another one of the law was presented to people who thought it was a quality indicator so 54% is not locked but it's a start in with education that could build upon that. >> go ahead. >> if i may quickly i do think it the nail on the head and we want to give this right the first time. we don't want to further consumer confusion so want to make sure we are testing consumers to make sure they u

i'm just -- you know, we're putting so much stuff on this label, all of these labels, that i'm not sure it's going to break through, you know. so i don't know what you all think about that. do you think -- am i off base trying to be concerned about all of this -- >> sir, i have two answers. one in terms of this question about the information being out there. if you go to any store right now, even in the states that don't regulate date labels like new york, almost every product, particularly in the center of the store, has a date label on it. everything from bottled water to vinegar to canned goods, whatever. so i think what's great about this, it's not taking information away. consumers are used to seeings those and they want to see them. it's just trying to make it clear so that they don't see a million different ones. i think you're right that no matter what the labels are education is going to be needed. the problem is right now that because there's so many different labels it's impossible to educate anyone about what they mean. i've tried. i'd love to say, this is what you should gl

of origin labeling. and i think -- i don't know how the baby got thrown out with the bath water here. but if mr. mcgovern said he was looking for a compromise. and i've been looking for a compromise too. i think if we had a voluntary program to replace the mandatory program, it would certainly satisfy the constraints of the world trade organization. and i find it a little bit ironic that we're sitting here in congress trying to make our laws compliant with another country's laws. but if that's the goal, then i think the 2005 bill would do that. and so what i've done is to offer that bill. and again, i want to list speaker boehner, chairman conaway, chairman sessions, mrs. fox, who is not here, and mr. mchenry were sponsors of this bill. i want to offer this in the nature of a substitute. there was one thing i had to change. in we weren't going to repeal it 2005, for chicken. and for some reason in 2015 we decided chicken needs to be repealed. i said ok, we'll repeal it for chicken. but we need to also ha

host: how would you design a label?>> guest: with difficulty. i would do something much disagree much like a traffic label system that was used in great britain for a while. the fda proposed a photo packaging system. because the institute of medicine in washington to do the two major reports on the package labeling and the second is a proposed system of photo package labeling and it's like traffic lights where it only looks at the sugar, salt, saturated fat and calories and has a check mark for them. but that came out during an election year and find him and i think the fda is going to leave those reports in the drawer until they get the nutrition facts label straightened out and they may never go back to it but i would pull the report out of the drawer immediately. >> host: because of the availability of more calories per person and is thus likely to decrease world hunger? >> guest: would be nice. it is decreasing according to the food and agriculture organization that just came out with its annual report and its down

was in favor of gmo-labeling.yourdo not need to step on toes here, but let's try to be brief. can you wait until the mike that there? gmos, and it is impossible where i am not to grow gmos. it is impossible. in missouri. it is impossible not to grow them, because if we do not use gmos, they will get pollinated by trucks that go by. we don't want to grow them, but we have no choice. it is cross pollinated, we grow it anyway. with all of us farmers growing gmos across the midwest world crops are grown, where is all this non-gmos product coming from? >> let me restate the question. the question was, farmers were trying to grow non-gmo crops form loadingseed into their crops. how do you grow them? >> i think your challenge is a real one. what you are talking about in terms of eliminating gmos and not as labeling organic food is completely doing the distribution system. been movingt has and goes froms one field to another, it is a separate distribution system that is needed. especially when you get into products where

i've been signed to major label since 1978 and am currently on the esteemed blue note label. the climate among musicians at the moment is disspirited. we feel marginalized and devalued although our passion for our work remains unchanged. every artist i know says regarding their work they have no choice,er with don't create out of whimsy. we are fueled by an artistic sensibility that can be ruthless in its demand for discipline and in some ways we are in a service industry. we are here to help people feel, to inspire, to reveal the secrets of the heart, to entertain and provide sustenance for the soul. creating music is a collaborative effort in the creation of recorded music co-writers, producers, fellow musicians, recording engineers, background singers and various support people come together with the single purpose to create one work. i am a fan of new technology. and i'm excited about the potential in see and the new ways of distributing music that are being offered to music lovers. my enthusiasm is tempered, however, by the realization that these new services are all cas

large labeling is a good idea.ith two provisos. what is there has got to be enough real estate on the food you are buying for the labelmaker, you don't need a microscope to figure out what is in the product and that is why modern barcodeing take that particular thing up and number 2 is because the consumer wants something in their food doesn't necessarily mean it is the scientific thing or the right thing. it may be a cultural thing or an ethical thing, may have nothing to do with food safety whatsoever. more an item of choice. i suspect going back to my original point consumers will want to be more and more educated as to what they are eating and it is the job of the food industry and the regulators to make sure people have the right, the best scientific basis, education so they can make intelligent choices, not choices based on fear or the latest news story. >> let me ask commissioner hamburg this question, let me add one more factor. there has been enormous controversy over gml labeling and questions about label

this is what you will get from the label of the future. this will be the new norm in providing consumers with information about the food we live and eat. so this is a huge deal which is why everybody is here and it's going to make a big difference for families across this country. so today i want to and as i started by truly thinking the fda and everyone else involved in this important effort. i'm excited to see all the comments that come in over the coming months and i look forward to celebrating the final label and ultimately seeing it on grocery shelves across the country in the years to come. congratulations. you all did great work. let's keep pushing. there is more to do and as secretary sebelius said we are starting to see some change. we are nowhere near the end of this road but with every little bit that we do we make a huge difference so congratulations once again and keep up the great work. thank you so much. [applause] [inaudible conversations] the headline ncq said veterans benefit bill stalls in the senate. the author of that

voluntary labeling system.ody will have the technology or the time to investigate. so you are right. this tells vermont and maine and connecticut and many other states, tween 9 of 10 consumers one genetically modified foods labeled and replace it with nothing. proponents will walk out and say no, there is going to be a qr code or an 800 number. that simply does not give the consumers the ability to know what is in their food. i can't tell you what happened this weekend when i was home. my wife ran in the grocery store, grabs what she needed and came out and we zipped home. people don't have the time to look. unless it is sitting right there and they can see it and that is what your bill does. your bill gives the consumer the ability to look at a package and know what is in it and that is what we should be fighting for. we should not be fighting to keep people in the dark, we should be fighting to let people know so they can make good decisions. if you have good information and it is true, you can make good deci

they explained what no labels meant. where we need to go on this country because we are getting nothing done whatsoever. i said, i am pretty sure i will be able to do it. the next day they announced i would be there without question. right? they are tough negotiators. i had another problem. i had another's meet someplace, it was quite a bit of a problem. i would not do it. they are problem solvers. they went nuts. they were not happy people. is that right, joe and john? ultimately, i said, i may have gone a little bit of that 50% level. so here i am. right? here i am. i love new hampshire. as joe said, the latest poll came out. to 14, and i have the 32, which is even better. some it is said, why did todd about the polls? i said, because i am winning. i said, but nobody else talks about it. that is because they do not do well. they would bell, talking about the polls. 13.ad 32 to big gap. a lot of people have friends in new hampshire. they are an people. i appreciate it. when we talk about no labels and getting along, and

i joined new labels about two years ago. i'm a paying member of no labels. i'm a democrat representing a republican area, it's a bit like that with redistricting it got worse. now that 60% republicans. my first election was in 2005, and my slogan was unite in the middle but that is still my slogan, and my margins just keep getting better so i think i fit in something that really appeals to the people in my community. and so one of my comments come utah greater vision, i've been thinking because now there's an effort to get more state legislators, and i'm thrilled with the. i think now is the time and we can really make a sweeping difference. but one of the things i've been grappling with is transportation infrastructure. because i think tax reform as a federal issue as was a state issue. immigration reform has to be tackled nationally. one thing that each of us grapples with is what we're going to do with regard to transportation infrastructure. our member banks outside when president obama talked about his commitment to rail. that kind of died. there wasn't

to label. it's complicated. we need to find a way for artists to be able to get that information in a usable format. still having all the information that they want, but not in so much detail that they miss the big picture. so it's just another bump in the road on this digital transition. it's not surprising that these issues would arise, and we will work through them and find ways to solve them. >> host: can a artist like taylor swift, does she have control over her music and where it's played? >> guest: complicated answer. she does have control over her music be it's on -- if it's on a interactive service and only in connection with the recording, not with the musical work. she writes her own songs, she is you should a government consent -- she is under a government consent decree to license her music via ascap or bmi on a, under this consent decree. so she could not remove her music from spotify based on the musical work. but she could based on the fact that she and her record label own the

the label is the law today. when a person does not follow the label, regardless of additional permits, they are violating the law. states continue to spend more and more money and man hours implementing and enforcing a water permit process that most regulators do not believe does anything to further protect water quality. that is why h.r. 935 is so important. this bill removes a pointless pay-for exercise in burden through npeds permits that do nothing but create additional hurdles between consumers and benefits like pesticides provide. registration and labeling of pesticides already does as much as any additional permit would require. in fact, e.p.a.'s own analysis suggests that the permits programmed for pesticides is the single greatest expansion in the program's history, covering over 5 1/2 million pesticide applications per year by 365,000 applicators. if h.r. 935 is not implemented, the effect of the e.p.a.'s overregulation will be felt across the state of georgia. for example, county officials will have o

we can label them with a blue and a green label here. and then what we have to do is make lots of copies of just that little piece of the chromosome that has the repeat in it. we use a technique called p.c.r. to do that. sort of our steer red sox machine for d.n.a. what we do is take d.n.a. from any individual, load it into the p.c.r. machine and what comes out are d.n.a. fragments just the ones of interest. just the ones that contain the repeat we want to examine. an important plea from individual to individual. sizes of those fragrances are going to be different in length because of this variation in the short tan temperature tandem repeat number. we use a process called electropoheihesis. we take products from five individuals and load them into a fell like this. we apply an electrical current it the gel and what happens is that the shorter smaller fragments, the ones that have fewer repeats tend to migrate through the gel more quickly. if they are taller they can significanted through. longer takes them longer to get through the gel.

no labels. that's right, i'm a believer. know, john and joe called and they said, would you do it? i said, i think i will be able to. they explained what no labels represented and where we have to go in this country because we are getting nothing done whatsoever. i said i'm pretty sure i'm going to be able to do it. so the next day they announced, i will be there without question. [laughter] they are tough negotiators. i had another speech someplace. it was actually quite a bit of a problem. i told them i wouldn't do it. they went nuts. they were not happy. is that right? they were not happy people. ultimately i said, i may have gone a little over that 50% level. and so here i am. right? here i am. [applause] and i love new hampshire. the latest poll came out. 32 to 13. somebody said, why do you talk about the polls? because i am winning. but that nobody else ever talks about the polls because they do lousy in the polls. if they were doing well, they would be talking about the polls. we had 32 to 13. that is a big gap and th

to move forward with rule making to promote electronic labels instead of physical labels to show that devices are approved this -- for commercial use. not only does it give greater flexibility to design consumer products but by soom estimates e-labeling will save manufacturers over $80 million a year. consumers will benefit from efficiencies created by e-labeling. e-labeling can expand consumer access to device information and enhance the overall quality and availability of equipment identification records through supporting software. the e 46 label act represents good policy for moat manufacturers and consumers and should be advanced without delay. i thank ranking member eshoo, congressman welch and wongcome -- congresswoman blackburn for their support on this measure. i also thank chairmen upton and walden for their continued support and leadership in modernizing our laws for the digital age. i urge my colleagues to support this bipartisan legislation. mr. speaker, i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from utah. >> thank yo

labeling, allergen labeling, bioterrorism and recordkeeping and proposed updates to the nutrition facts panel. we also have our own safety and quality standards that go beyond these laws. the last thing we want is someone to get sick from the food in our grocery stores. you might ask how is this related to what we are talking about today. these are all related to the supermarket industry and where we devote time and resources. they are regulations that are not applied to chain restaurants. when the f.d.a. takes a chain restaurant menu labeling law and stretches it out to grocery stores on top of the other laws that we comply with and abide with, it shouldn't surprise anyone that the glove simply doesn't fit. we are committed to aiding our customers and making healthy choices and i will highlight three of those things we are doing. we with other grocers have a healthy initiatives departments that make informed decisions about healthy eating, something we didn't have to do but it's the right thing to do. we invested significant resources in the scoring system, a system that gives a zero t

[applause] so i think iowa was no labels before no labels was no labels if you will.e political makeup, democrats controlled the senate, republicans control the house and then our executive is different. republican but president obama is democrat. so the same political makeup as the national congress and executive branch. over last five years we've had slow and steady job growth. we would like to do more. our entitlement program, basically our large pension system, we have reformed that together. medicaid is very similar to medicare at the federal level. very similar exercise. we expanded medicaid under affordable care act in iowa with divided government. we also tripled solar tax credit. we're world's leader in wind generation. if you look at energy diversity and national strategic agenda of no labels we accomplished that. we did it all with a balanced budget, record surpluses and largest property tax cut in iowa history. so don't tell iowans that what is going on in congress, in d.c. is the only way it has to happen. we know that we've been able to work together acr

another question here about some labeling issues. the abbreviated new application that would allow generic manufacturers, this is a proposal for fda, to change the label without fda's prior approval but come back later on. as the fda recognized kinlt labeling will ensure health professionals and consumers that a generic drug is as safe as its brand name counterpart. but there's a concern that allowing the changes to take place and go back fill them later on can cause a lot of confusion in studies that have asked. i'm wondering where this issue stands in clarifying this. >> we have received kmen ed com the proposed rule and received many comments or analyzing the comments and subsequent to that we'll have to go forward with a rule making process. the proposed rule contemplated that e we would actually have less despairties of labels in the marketplace on this because of this proposal. because we would put up a website and also require conform mans of labels, which we cannot carry through right now given the current systems. >> but the

but no labels came along.son who is the genius and master mind behind no labe labels, nancy is what i would call a social political entrepreneur. it's almost an oxymoron at political entrepreneur. he you just sort of sit and spin and nothing ever gets done. nancy has created a movement that is quite remarkable. i have to digest it when i first heard about it because i have been in politics are there wasn't quite sure and two things were readily apparent about this no labels grew. it was just kind of thing just getting off the ground. one, we no longer have the ability to bring people together regardless of their background for purposes of discussion, building trust and problem solving. if you didn't approach everything with a problem-solving ethos when you sit around the table i didn't ask what party people were around the table. if you want to talk about environmental tax reform or education have a seat at the table and let's talk and we will pat -- put our best ideas out there and move forward. that's not th

-label products are the fastest-growing label in the united states. the products that are labeled non-gmo in 2012, grew faster than any other category in terms of sales. last year, it was the second fastest. in europe, we saw a solution to the gmo issue, not from fromical enactment but consumer education. and what i want to do is i will talk a little bit about the way with q&a.'s but i want to show you some pictures for the visual learner. because some of you will take home -- what is on the screen. i am showing some of the photographs. just some of the photographs. here on the left side is a normal intestine of a rat. on the right side, the change in the architecture in cell walls after eating a genetically modified potato. this is the stomach lining. see the stomach lining, how it is twice as big after eating a genetically modified potato? this was almost certainly due to the generic process of genetic engineering, not the particular gene that was inserted. because the process causes collateral damage in the dna, changes gene expression and causes s

so basically, every group that had been looking at date labels as a driver of food waste said date labels are causing a lot of waste. someone should really try to understand exactly what they mean and how we can make them better. so this was a challenge that we took on, and it's a great project for our legal clinic because it's looking at laws. and so let me tell you about our findings. so the first one is actually probably the most surprising to people which is date labels are really undefined in law, and they're just a suggestion by manufacturers of when a food is at its peak quality. so for those of you who might have thrown food away, i won't make you raise your hands because i imagine most hands would go up, if you've ever thrown food away because you thought that you or someone you were feeding it to was going to get sick after that date, that's absolutely wrong. those dates have nothing to do with food safety. there's no safety tests that are done on the foods. if companies do any testing at all, it is just taste testing. so people eat them after one day, two days, three days, so o

our board passed representatives of record labels, indie labels, major labels and their trade associations and half art is and the representatives and artist managers and artist unions. and every dollar of royalties is paid through soundexchange is split 50/50 between the copyright owners come usually the record label anarchists featured artist and non-featured artists. that is something that is unique and it is the reason that that is the reason that art is love soundexchange. it is a reason that people often point to soundexchange as kind of a bright spot for transparency and the recording industry which is a big issue that a lot of people are talking about right now. the other things we do besides collecting royalties and distribute royalties, we represented one of the copyright royalty board which is the entity over the library of congress that alec mentioned earlier that sets the rates for all of these royalties. and we also advocate on behalf of the industry up here and elsewhere to try to protect of those rates and to support fair pay for artists and copyright owners. so that's the

labelling and information on pill bottle s s a that -- labelling through the web and labelling through, there has to be a better way tan just keep putting stickers on the pill bottles and things. and i would like to be -- that's just a statement -- >> can i respond to that? >> the centers for drug says working on developing a patient information leaflet. a one-pager that you get either electronically or at the pharmacy that tells you every other country has this kind of thing. that tells you how to take the drug, what it's for and so forth. but we have proposed and we are interested in going to an electronic physician label. which is the thing that's folded up inside the pill bottle. we would like to move that to electronic with paper options for those who are still electronically impaired. shall we say? but most of the world can easily get that information at drugs at fda, at many other sites. >> thanks, gentlemen. i recognize the gentleman from florida. five minutes for questions. >> thank you, i appreciate it. thank you for your testimony, dr. woodcock. we ask questions. we submitte

number two, no labels is leading the effort.'t know of another organization or undertaking quite like what nancy and her team have put together. it is prepared, it's organized, it's got the energy to make things happen with respect to this new political real estate. number three. this new political real estate, this new center of gravity is represented by an emerging problem-solvers caucus who had a couple of years of, let's say, pretrial exercise. some of them are here, working together, burnishing up their ability to do things cross boundary. i'm here to tell you, they've got the resolve to build and to play a significant role as the problem solvers caucus on capitol hill. the go-to group that could change the balance of power on these very important issues, whether it's tax reform, infrastructure, immigration or health care. number four and finally, we couldn't be doing any of this without defensive mechanisms in place. make no mistake about it. this is where we have not adequately built the right systems. that is protecting

finding the song writer and the record label was a real problem. >> mr. pinkus, you want to weigh in on this. >>> the problem is that it's afached by the courts to the digital licensing problem. digital licenseing is much easier done on a drekt basis, then, for example, television licensing. that's a very good argument for why partial withdrawal ought to be allowed to occur. >> mr. miller? >> well that's one of the million technical questions that's probably beyond my pay grade. i will say, as far as things such as transparency that i think could be relevant to part of your question if i have a hit song, a million plays on the radio is kind of a threshold. they send us a plaque at a million plays. if i had one of those every now and then, you know what i'm raising a family and we're doing okay. now we get into situations where we see 50 million and a hundred million spins? we can't even comprehend. and i understand it's a different medium and we can talk about the internet and technology. we get transparency on that. how is that fair? where is the middle