the director of the national guard and the head of the california national guard testified on capitol hill recently about that issue. republican congressman joe heck chaired the hearing. >> go ahead and call the military personnel subcommittee of the house of armed services committee to order. i want to welcome everyone to the subcommittee's hearing on the california national guard bonus repayments issue. we're here today to hear from the california national guard, the national guard bureau and the office of the secretary of defense on an issue that we must get right. in fairness to not only the california guardsmen that this affected but for all service members going forward. compensation whether it is a bonus for a service agreement or regular pay is an obligation to our servicemembers and their families, that they should not have to worry about. i find it unacceptable that we would place the additional burden of years of concern about the legitimacy of a bonus payment or a student loan repayment on those who volunteer to serve. the armed services committee has taken action in the 2

it will be air national guard members was alongside with army air national guard. we are going to be there and i always tell people if you are in the national guard you are always on a mission. you are part time. you can have somebody returned from afghanistan during a war fight in the next day tornado, flood, earthquake, fire. if that happens you can bet they will be called up the next day and put to work on behalf of their community and their state, always on a mission. the same people might be involved with security quaff russian details come planning something and getting ready for a bilateral event. we stay very active in all of that and we are very proud of that. so in conclusion i just want to tell you that we had an opportunity to become a part of the different air force, the same five core mission areas that general welsh often talks about but also in three domains. airspace and fiber and we are involved in all of those activities. indeed we do almost every mission set in the united states air force and there's not a single mission that we can do. trained

then a pentagon briefing with rear admiral john kirby, and later, the head of the air national guard talks about the ewan's role and operations. tuesday marked the first night hanukkah, and the national menorah was lit on the ellipse. the ceremony included ranks by vice president biden. >> you know, the word "hanukkah" relates in think view to ceremonies and celebrations like this one. but the word "hanukkah pay has roots in hebrew and the same word as education. we dedicate, we educate, we live, we celebrate. as part of these celebrations, we in american friends of lab lubavitch have started an essay contest where we have children from across the country explain what hanukkah means to them. so i would like to call simi from pennsylvania to read her winning entry for us today. [applause] >> what hanukkah means to me. hanukkah is a special meaningful holiday for me. it is a great way to remind us of great miracle's. hanukkah in english means dedication. i think dedication, beautifully describes the jews. we are dedicated to judaism. we fear and love our leader and he creates all of our

which is a national guard in title 32 status, the inactive national guard which is basically folks that have not yet all the way transitioned out of the guard on a roster and can be recalled and then something called the maryland defense force which i have a slide about at the very end which is a nonfederalized militia and then again in maryland, for example, abl able-bodied individuals which is everybody else that is not members of the previous organizations would be the unorganized militia. so what you have is basically you have two national guards, when brad was talking about the federal government response and it only happens after the state is exhausted the national guard is both. for example, i have a commission from the president of the united states and i have a commission from the dpofrer of maryland. so it's this dual status that makes the national guard a unique organization as well as a unique military force in the country. so that in -- on the left of that slide you can see where the organized militia is trained and appointed, et cetera, and has federal recognition, ok

guard in the history of the nation." if testimony before the senate defense appropriations committee called the guard a "cost-effective proven solution" allows the nation "to maintain a robust military at theleast possible cost to taxpayer." the september 11, 2001 terror on the world trade center in new york and the pentagon in washington pushed thecitizen warriors of national guard more accustomed to responding to u.s. natural frontlines twoe of foreign wars. in addition to iraq and afghanistan, national guard tosonnel have deployed libya, kosovo and other hot around the world. nothing illustrates the dual inhl better than monday illinois when governor pat quinn activated the national guard to residents hit by a ferocious winter storm and another was activate for deployment to kuwait. congress recognized the guard's tee fencen the 2012 authorization act when it elevated the head of the bureau to the joint chiefs of staff, the military advisors to president obama and his national security team. the guard's future is uncer

you know, fy-15 is a tough year for the army national guard.s of both pay allowance and o&m. it's about a billion dollars less than this was in '14. as we look to '16, we hope to see that increase and on a rise throughout that pom cycle. we're getting ready to get into '17-'21, so we want to talk about those issues. but as general millie said, i think the root of the question is it's what you go beyond a statutory -- once you go beyond a statutory training period of 15 is days. so if you're a typical ctc rotation, extra days both on the rotation itself, and there's travel. and there's cost associate with the that. we have to capture those in our pom efforts as we do war fighter exercises so that we can allow a division commander and staff to execute training events in conjunction with war fighter exercises and maximize those opportunities. where that increases above and beyond a statutory annual training period, i think, is the crux of the issue and how do we capture that in the process so that we can maximize each and every one of those engage

the national guard will remain critical in accomplishing all of our nation's security. ng the number of rotations for the guard in combat teams. and increase the number of helicopters in the next several years enhancing capabilities of strategic reserve and providing more flexibility for missions in the here and now including the homeland. the guard will be instrumental in fighting and winning on today's battlefield and shaping tomorrow's conflicts, cyber and space domains are increasingly contested the national guard will be on the vanguard of these missions. by 2019 the national guard will have 30 cyberunits to support services in us cybercommand. the more deeply integrated guard becomes the better prepared the nation becomes. the presence, skill, readiness of citizen warriors across the country give us the agility to handle unexpected demand home and abroad, an essential component of the total force and linchpin of readiness. that is one reason the position of commander of the national guard elevated to the joint chiefs of staff in 2012, the first national guard burea

national guard in the history of the nation. in testimony before the senate defense appropriations committee last year, he called the guard a, quote, cost-effective proven solution, unquote, that allows the nation, quote, to may be contain a robust military at the least possible cost to the taxpayer. the september 11th, 2001, terror attacks on the world trade center in new york and the pentagon in washington pushed the citizens warriors of the national guard more adowfm responding to u.s. natural disasters to the front lines of two foreign wars. in addition to iraq and afghanistan national guard personnel have dpe employed to libya, kosovo, and other hot spots around the world. but nothing illustrates the guard's dual -- elevated the head of the national guard bureau to the joint chief of staff. the military advisers to president obama and national security team. but the guard's future is uncertain. this fall as congress it'sed over the budget the guard faced potential sequestration cut that pair the force by 10%. such cuts told

the proportions between guard reserve and national -- the guard reserve and active component, that's a great question. right now, the options we're looking at keep them roughly speaking around the same. but depending on the situation, depending on conditions, depending on what's required in the world, depending on what we perceive in terms of resourcing down the road, those proportions could change, depending on what the senior leaders want to do. and there are lots of options out there. i would say that right now, it's a -- it's too early to tell, in terms of specific numbers, for those particular years, if you were to ask that same question in february, next february, i'd give you a better answer as to what direction it's going to go in. we're probably about 90 days too early in terms of giving you a specific answer to that. at least from where i sit. and i'll let judd and jeff talley take a swing at that as well. unless you want to make a comment on it as well. judd, any comments? on the numbers for the guard? no? >> i would refer to general talley first. [ laughter ] >> they're i

what's your estimation of the national guard plan? >> 1500 and iraqi national guard.we've actually used some of the forces and capabilities that are there like the regional force from the army and the special purpose magtaf in the region. that's what they're there for. provides general austin with a lot of flexibility like we're seeing up in iraq. they're starting to move forward. and have moved forward in many cases to make sure that we are preparing the sites out there. we've got the legislation moving through that gives us the authorities to train and we want to be ready and we certainly will be as the iraqis now start to designate in a deliberate way which units now will go to those partner capacity sites, either pull them out of the line somewhere or create new capabilities out there. second question again. guard? national guard again as many of you realize, we've got this initial tribal 5,000 bridging strategy that the department of state is working directly and of course, all these activities go through the government of iraq. so we got the initial 5,000 starte

those rer battalions of which we have six in the national guard. we don't have that capability because we have a different mission that principle serves the homeland defense unction in the homeland. -- function. i'm not sure we're in agreement that we have to look exactly. and the other piece of your question that we have to point out time and again is that it is absolutely incorrect to say that a ua to 60 helicopter and the uh 70 helicopter are not combat aircraft. they are combat aircraft. they are called upon to go into some of the most difficult and challenging and heroin places in the world every day. and the bravest people, some of the bravest people we know are uh 60 drivers. wall they can certainly attest to that fact having spent some time special operations aviation. i think that is to the first point. on the second point about the movement of people, personnel and milcon, absolutely. we have accounted for the transition and training of people in the reserve component who will assume and fall in on the new structure. now, that is not say

depth discussions in our office and i thank you for the willingness to work with the wonderful national guard and those great young men and women that provide a great support system to the active component members. thank you for that. i wanted to mention the ties between the active component and the guard. we do have our secretary bct from iowa rotating through jrtc right now. we do appreciate that partnership. i want to tag on with a little bit on what brought up in regard to the cases of sexual assault in military. i was at the west point visitor board of meeting yesterday and this was a topic we discussed. you have over 34 years of experience in the army so you have seen a lot of changes through the yearsism when it comes to especially sexual assault, in the way the army reports this we have seen changes in the recent years. i would like your take away on what we have seen and with those changes what do you see? is it improving? the areas where you think we have seen the most impact. if you could just talk about that a little. >> thank you senator. it has been some improvement. it is not g

it was not so much the discussion of the national guard as the tone of the discussion of the nationalguard. he made it very clear in this debate of whether they are going to cut the national guard budget or active duty -- you know my husband just returned from a year in afghanistan and he is a guardsman. he basically said many people in this room have asked for cuts. now you are getting them. you do not go after the national guard to cut. we have survived this war and redacting this company -- country through the national guard and now you're going to punish these people who are asking for debt reduction by cutting the national guard? it is not logical way to do things. you look at the fact that when he talks about using his pen or using the phone, what we can say is look at what the nlrb is trying to do, they are trying to shorten election times, trying to bully people into joining unions. that is how he could use his pen or his phone, back them off. did you not learn from bowing and how detrimental that was to not just south carolina -- boeing and how detrimental that was not just t

concern is of great because, as you're fully aware, the national guard plays two roles. it can be activated and but it also plays an essential role domestically in to national disasters, orural terrorist attack that may occur soil. so could you talk a little bit to help me understand why you don't think a commission would a good idea to review this controversial issue. i said in, first, as my opening statement and as i statement,written the national guard and reserves are, have been, and will remain an integral part of our national security strategy. that's not an issue. a couple of the specific points i'll get the last point to your question about the commission. as i've also said, we've talked here today about the realities abrupt and steep unprecedented, quite frankly, cuts. that's the reality that we have. know, as you've spoken just a few minutes ago about sequestration becomes the the land in 2016 unless that's changed, so that's the reality of the financial and what we've got to deal with. when you look at the national guard reserve cuts, what we're first is active

there are 100 national guard helicopters. this will just pay for the use and the crew and the maintenance and upkeep of eight of those. they already have them. won't purchase any more. i wish we could get helicopters that cheaply. but it will keep eight of them in use with the drug interdiction on our border right now because there is an invasion going on on our southern border. it is an invasion. and it is increasing, as i say, every day. o with that -- with that request, i don't think it's too much to ask to have eight helicopter that was already been purchased, they just need crews, equipment, upkeep, to help in the interdiction of the invasion in which drugs are being brought across our border on the south and with that, i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from texas. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair the noes have it. the amendment is not agreed to. mr. gohmert: i r

by 2019, national guard will have over 30 cyber units in 34 states to support these services in u.s. mmand. the more deeply committed they become, the better paired the nation becomes. the presence, the skill and the readiness of citizen warriors across the company give us the agility and flexibility to handle unexpected demand at home and abroad. it has been an essential component of the total force and a linchpin of our readiness. that is one of the reasons that position of national guard was elevated to the joint chiefs of staff in 2012 and is the first national guard bureau chief serves a full term in the tank, national guard bureau chief general frank grass has led this historic transition with character and skill. building the good work -- building on the good work of his right assessor, general grass worked tirelessly to form the most integrated and total force in our history. he has helped increase our rapid deployment capability to respond to any crisis and respond to the local, state and international levels. he has been a strong and steady voice at the table for the men and

we have met or corresponded with each of the 54 adjectives general who leads the national guard across the nation. 30 governors, nearly 80 members of congress. we met with all six geographic combatant commanders, several subject by commanders and some of the functional combatant commanders, all of that in an effort to make sure we clearly understand, particularly from the governors and from the geographic combatant commands with their demands were for army forces. we met with the associations who have come represents many of our soldiers of all three components with think tanks come with subject matter expert, academics and others have studied the army and national security and defense policy, some within the government and many without. and we did all of that in an effort to meet the requirement of a law that we conduct a comprehensive assessment. we felt for the eight of us that it was important to receive as many varied and informed inputs as we could to make sure that we were balancing our assessments to the degree possible. we also asked each of the eight commissioners in each mem

we have talked to governors about their responsibilities as to how they use their national guard. explanation that would be more helpful to you as to why the recommendations were made the way they were, that would be it. >> i will share my view that i certainly think both the guard and our reserves are a critical part of our readiness and capability to defend this nation. the first question is connected with the second question, which budget proposed the army cut six brigade combat teams by 2019. that is an astounding amount of land, power. -- land, power. -- land combat power. i am very troubled by these cuts. by diminishing our ability to defend our national security. it seems to me there are great many other areas in the pentagon budget that ought to be much higher candidates for cuts than reducing the men and women who are directly on the frontlines lines, who go directly to our were fighting capacity. for example, the normative defense continues to spend billions of dollars on alternative energy research programs at dod. the navy spent $170 million on algae fuel that cost four

he went right to the national guard there because he was the national guard and they spent almost $50 million in lawsuits. hum? $50 million in lawsuits paying off. so you think you see it and you don't see it. the press is sitting there talking to not one person on the press talking about how could he lay there for four hours? >> right. >> the mother came up. they wouldn't let mercy him. hum? >> right. >> then, how many of y'all is aware that four and a half hours, they took him away in a black s.u.v.? >> right. right. >> with no markings on it. >> right. >> then he kept it. the police department has no records for that car. where did they take him? hum? where did where did they take him. >> that's what you looked at and you didn't see it because the press, they are not as stupid as you think they are. they tell you what you are supposed to see. hum? >> right. >> so somewhere, when we sit and look at this, and i am on the radio all over the country, all over, they are telling me rebellion. a rebellion is something you plan. you pick the time and the day. a rebellion is something you w

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and why is texas governor rick perry chooses to send the texas national guard to the texas border on his own not as a national decision or response, that is his right. but he should pay for it. it's wrong to tax new hampshire taxpayers and taxpayers around the country to pay for a $35 million earmark for a texas governor who acted on his own and now should pay for his decision. yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the the gentlewoman from new hampshire yields back her time. the gentlewoman from new york reserves. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky roists. the gentlewoman from new york vefpblgt mrs. lowey: mr. speaker, i yield one -- new york is recognized. mrs. lowey: i yield one minute to ms. pelosi, the minority leader of the house. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from california is recognized for one minute. ms. pelosi: thank you, mr. speaker. i thank the gentlewoman from for yielding. the time is late. the cause is great. we must, we must have clarity in how we understand what is before us

national guard, because at the end of the day it is the local people and the national guard who control the ground. in post-isis period. returning and compensating displaced people. because this is a very big problem now. millions of people outside their houses. on the american side supporting political form and reconciliation. they keep support but i mean to start with, despite all the marginalization of sunni we keep saying that the solution should be political in power sharing division of power all these things just to squeeze terrorists at an angle. ensuring the formation of government agreement. the idea is to dig deep over there, timetable and implementation. assisting and rebuilding security forces on non sectarian implementation. 50,000 those soldiers. so minister of defense paid for them and they are really not in service. now only this point the 50,000 to be compensated by 50,000 good guys would restructure the iraqi army in a good way. we can defeat these forces like nineveh, we don't need to see that model. in order not to see the defeated iraqi forces. we have 50,000 and th

we don't northeast the national guard. >> we note that both president obama and bush deployed the national guard and congressman if you would help texans to get parity with the number of border patrol agents per mile a new mexico, arizona, and california does, identity be with you. let's send the national guard home but get the same strength level at our other states have. >> i agree. our friends, chairman mike mccall, chairman of the home lean security committee, wrote a bill called the border security act. that would make sure we use exiting assets and deploy them based on risk without necessarily having to spend wind of dollars more to protect the border. we all would like to consider ourselves fiscal conservatives. if we're spending $18 billion a year, almost three times actual lie what we were spending 15 years ago, you would think we would want to deploy those assets as wisely as possible. don't want to throw money to problem. we want to deploy assets where the risk is. >> congressman, when i was in laredo there was the national guard there and nobody really seemed to be upset becaus

guidelines at moderate risk with an end strength of 490,000 in the active arty, 350,000 in the national guard and 202,000 in the national reserve, and i stand by that assessment. however, sequestration is the law of the land. and it will return in fiscal year '16 without immediate congressional action. the readiness gains achieved in fy '15 will quickly atrophy as we are forced to reduce planned rotations and planned activities in order to fund immediate operational requirements. sustained readiness requires sustained training dollars and investment. our modernization accounts will receive a 25% reduction with no program unaffected. major weapon programs will be delayed, severely impacting the industrial base both in and near and long term. under sequestration, the next three or four years, we'll continue to reduce end strength as quickly as possible while still meeting operational commitments. as we continue to draw down and restructure into a smaller force, the army will continue to have significantly degraded readiness and expensive modernization shortfalls. at the end of fy'19, we'll begi

as an active member of the national guard, i see first hand the importance of the national guard supporting our armed forces to protect our country. as guard members return from overseas, many of them stand ready and willing for their next mission. as many of my colleagues have pointed out today, the national guard can play a pivotal role in securing america's borders. we've seen successful guard missions in the past with operations jump start, phoenix, and nimbus. last year i called on the department to use the national guard to help secure the border. in may 2013, i offered an amendment in this committee to the border security results act, which would ensure that dhs considers lessons learned from past national guard missions on the border. both the current and previous administrations have used the national guard on more of a short-term ad hoc basis rather than on any long-term, strategic plan. secretary johnson, wouldn't it be beneficial for the department to partner with the national guard and develop a long-term strategy for the guard to assist along the borders? and wouldn't it be th

as a former staff sergeant in the utah national guard i know firsthand how the guard faithfully serves this country abroad and here at home. governors understand the need we have as a nation to make adjustments to meet financial realities, but this is the time to invest in value and the national guard is the best bang for the taxpayer's buck. one example of how useful and versatile the guard can be is its potential to help state's address cyber security threats. states counties and cities are all experiences the same attacks we hear about with regard to the retailers and the banks and other businesses. as governor as the governor said, nga has taken the lead to provide states with plans and strategies for combating cyberattacks. since the men and women of the guard come from our communities and our businesses, some of best and brightest working in the area of cybersecurity also serve in the guard. as the federal government develops its strategies policies to thwart attacks and protect us, it should partner with the states and recognize the value the guard can bring to this new front. l

one in new york and new jersey national guards. this was a huge step forward for our national security and these teams, each located deliberately within nine of the countries, ten fema regions, can serve federal and state purposes including bolstering civilian. new york has already experienced the hacking of a small dam and we're constantly alert to the threats of cyberattacks. yet absolutely no funding in the army's fiscal year '17 budget request was set aside for these new units. months after the announcement we're still left wondering how they will be supported. unlike the air guard cpts, they're not designated to the cyber mission forces. the army has not funded them. it is not clear when they might get trained. general milli, since becoming chief of the army, you have made it a priority to talk about one army and to look for ways to take advantage of the benefits of the different combponentcomponents. how do you envision we can use the national guard to address cyber threats and do you know why there's no money al located in th

they try to be the precursor and the national guard. some because at the end of the day the local people in a post-isis. the compensation of people displaced a very big problem now. millions of people outside. on the american side, they are supporting to keep support. despite all of the problems, keeps saying they are too political. the division of power, power sharing, all of these things. they would not accept an illegal constitution. the government agreement of mr. abadi. the idea is insisting on rebuilding security forces are nonsectarian. talking about 50,000 according to mr. abadi himself. now only at this point the 50,000 to be compensated by 50,000 good guys would restructure the army. we don't need the feedback model in order not to see the iraqi forces. we have 50000 rebuilding the iraqi army. and to develop the state of love. i'm talking about the state of law of mr. maliki. providing technical assistance, dismantling the government militia because we don't need america to rebuild its partnership with isis. put the partnershi

for this reason, we continue to ourvely and loudly champion national guard as they come home maintain thee value of having an active and ready guard. intoansition from war peace but they should not adversely affect states or, at the expense of last capabilities. instead, we should be leveraging the experience and cost effect in this of the army and air national guard. federalto work with our partners to make sure that the guard remains ready for state and federal missions. the next outcome is not a field or a town but a computer network that supports our own critical infrastructure. cyber attacks, the guard should be mobilized to and be able tos respond to incidents. the government seeks to clarify how it will work with the to better secure cyberspace. states are already moving forward to develop and implement new cyber policies to protect economies and ensure public safety. they launched the resource center for state cyber security by governor martin o'malley and governor rick snyder. state teams met to share best practices and devise ways governors can guide their efforts and make s

here is their national guard. here is their national guard battling students in the streets, fully equipped with riot gear, ready to battle against them. this has been their response -- repression at every turn in multiple cities. here is the other response -- tear gas. tear gas by a fully armored individual firing tear gas canisters into the crowd. let me talk about the tear tbas for -- let me talk about the ter tbateargas for a moment. this says "made in brazil," and there have been reports in fact that there's been some u.s u.s.-manufactured tear gas being used against protesters in the street in venezuela. but if it stopped at tear gas, it would be one thing, but it has not stopped at tear gas. in fact, it is now known that the interior ministry of venezuela authorized snipers to travel to tachita state and fire on demonstrate demonstrators. here is a picture of an air force, army, or national guard individual, or interior ministry individual on a rooftop with a rifle and a scope aiming into a crowd. here is a

yet, repeatedly, the national guard has come to our support, and not just colorado national guard butghboring states. utah. we were rebuilding roads after the flood of september of 2013, we had a team of national guard engineers came and allowed us to continue design work 12 hours a day, seven days a week, so we got roads open before the first snow well. governors have a bias. general grass knows well that bias and has been a great mediator and facilitator between that. but in the end, we recognize if we want what's -- we want to make sure our country is absolutely safe and our military has the resources it needs. we just, in many cases, we look at that resource of trained national guard military infrastructure in place ready to serve should they be needed. it seems to us, at least, that that creates a level of flexibility that should be cost-effective. >> let me say amen to the governor's comments. and just add that if there's ever an issue that ought to have bipartisan support, when we talk about the proper role of government, democrats and republicans, independents agree that publi

as the national guard commander a democrat, a guy who already was a major general.rom mylot of grief fellow republicans. i was only the third republican in the state's history. he later became head of the national guard nationally, but he knew exactly what to do. and everybody trusted him. he already was a general. he wasn't a political officer who was a major that all of a sudden now becomes a major general because he was the national guard commander. he was a gifted professional. things like this happen where they pop up. we had too many dead people. in obama city, everybody was a building collapse. except for unfortunately the building, jumped out everybody was just incinerated. so you had enormous stress psychologically. on had families that were the verge of rebellion, wanting their loved ones. there, and is in know she is not living. my child is in there. why can't i have them? military to come in, very professionally, and they expedited them within a matter of a few days, and the rebellion stopped. you could tell the families were on the verge of just despair

the active component cannot be placed in the national guard.big give us the capability that are complementary to each other so it's about getting the right talents between the two. in the 2000's when we are involved in the two wars in iraq and afghanistan we increase the active component and the percentage of it was 51% at 749% in the reserve. as we get finished with their reductions which are mostly all coming out of the active component we will go to 54% in the reserve and 42 in the active. what that means is as we go forward and if we have to go lower than 490 and the active component we will have to take a percentage out of the guard and reserve and we are still working working on what those numbers are. it's about keeping that right or centage. percentage. 53% in reserve and 46% inactive. based on the analysis that gives us the right level of acts of readiness and also gives us the ability for the national guard to respond over longer periods of time and it allows the national guard to continue to be responsive within their own states. and

national guard, national guard is important.uilding iraq army armed forces, second model of mosul withdrawing iraqi army. the only way is to rebuild restructure the iraqi army on a national background. and here mission not yet accomplished. after u.s. withdrawal from iraq is in fragile both security and political situation. by using politicized victim. and agreed upon government program is presented by mr. al-badi or by the way i'm not talking about abadi himself that he was the head of the financial comedy when i was minister of finance. i think he is trying but trying is a very bad situation. need to stand united together to defeat the violate dictator governors. undermined by militia and by isis. so now the vision, i think we need to adjust a new council. modify. when he created a model of awakening because the prison was huge. it's different but they are still there. a modification means creating a joint comity, local people local government or whom else to supervise the story of recruiting sunnis and arming them rapidly. ar

and, of course, i'm very proud of our national guards capabilities, and we have seen the national guard participated in conflicts all around the globe as well as in support roles in places such as kosovo and honduras and many other types of exercises around the world. and i would like to hear a little bit from all of you about what role do you think the army national guard should play. as i've mentioned we've been in support, combat sustainment rolls, but we've also served in combat roles as well. just recently our second brigade combat team from iowa actually occupied battle space in afghanistan. so there is an increasing reliance upon the army national guard, and they respond quite well i believe to the needs of the united states and our forces. i would like to know that if you believe the army national guard should be designated as an operational reserve of the army and if so, why, or if not, why not? dr. krepinevich? >> you said it right. >> thank you. i apologize. >> no, no, no. again, i think that back to admiral fisher's question, tell me how you quantify, tell me how you're goin

we believe it is important to have a strong national guard or governors. but the non-august, at the nga summer meeting, we stress the need for certainty in a long-term solution to find our aging infrastructure. in september, we return to the budget debate about warning congress that the effects of our state of the federal shutdown. we called on them to resolve the budget issues than the m. pact and to put the budget on a sustainable long-term fiscal pat. despite all of this coming year we stand today with essentially the same to do list sitting before our congress. states have been dealing with short-term extension and long-term uncertainty. we are a quarter of the way through the fiscal year 2014 and just this week is now anticipated that washington may pass an omnibus bills to fund 2014. however, major reauthorization bills governing key state and federal programs are stacking up. in my state of oklahoma and states across the country, the most liberal democrats in the most conservative republicans can agree moving from one crisis to another without any l

the national guard recently joined those efforts.want to start with you to release those statistics the their brief recap panetta something people want to know about and as it relates to what is going on. and weak 11 the way we started retard about the search operation just saturation controls but the first week period operation 13,606 there was a concern of the population but then it was to the special crimes but then walking 1,197 from week 11 so it's not that the numbers that matter but added time we the point is if it's from the state leadership of the legislature of the home invasions that are expressed also the stash house when i talk about the human stash house the business model of the cartel you may have paid your money to get here you're not going anywhere. >> what about the national guard specifically there has been questioned of the enforcement powers so there are sensitivities to let the public know because that is possible. >> and when they were called up path what we have done is a tad partners to defy the observation

the national guard on its way to ferguson. we would like to get your assessment of the police response and your take on the national guard being deployed. jake calling in on the line for missouri residents this morning on the "washington journal," good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. host: go ahead. caller: to be honest, i have split my time between st. charles and st. louis for the majority of my life. know too much about the issues in ferguson. to be honest with you, this thing happened so quick. there is so much history. it kind of feels like a self-fulfilling half as you. what i wish would happen, that people would not have freaked out so bad. the police department -- i know there is the autopsies that are going on, they really have to come together and do a quick investigation and get the information out. i see the situation spiraling even more. it feels like even though the highway patrol on the governor is involved, this really has no direction. i do not want to see people get hurt, you know? you have got

in terms of the last point, the national guard, we are a total force. we cannot fight without the guard and reserve. the united states military at large cannot fight without it. we provide the depth and endurance for any operation regardless what the league is in that regard. in terms of engagement, we lean heavily on their state partnership capacity program, a very unique and hugely beneficial tool in our engagement strategy and in all of the theaters, not just in africa. >> final comments? >> if i could again addressed the issue of the human domain, two key points. although we have not agreed upon a final definition for it, we at the physical, cognitive, information, social humanal aspects of behavior, beliefs, perceptions. singer'sack to dr. point, we do not want, in the long term, looking out to the iturity of this concept, for to be somehow stovepipes within land power land domain, with joint forces always seeking to find cross domain synergy, we see the human domain as being able to help in that regard and achieve some of that. to the national guar

>> the national guard was part of the unified command. providing services all throughout the area so officials can be freed up to be part of the command. we had 700 guardsmen in the region doing a lot of static work out there such that others couldn't. we certainly had a guard at the command post and at the ferguson police department. we will have more out there tonight and we will continue to provide resources. over here. >> [indiscernible] i am not sure these that number at the command center at various times. it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 100. is saying you may have been pressured by the obama administration to not deploy justsmen as opposed to guard federal buildings. >> that is false. it is nothing to do what we're doing. have hundreds of people out there putting the lives on the line each and every night. politics has not one bit to do with the tasks at hand, the responsibilities at hand and the seriousness of this mission. >> governor jay nixon. on c-span,k interviews with retiring members of congress and tonight at 8:00

by three in an $63 million. 70 million for the national guard combat center training, 99, the army national guard critical operations tempo. the 50 million for the national guard critical level depot maintenance and 38 million for the uhf 608 conversion. fixed wing modifications and 98 million for the procurement. i really am -- it's my view that the army national guard has proven itself over the years with the combat the we have had. we need to be interchangeable, and this will achieve that. i urge the adoption of an imminent. >> any discussion? >> sent you, mr. chairman. thank you for allowing me to co-sponsor this. i think this is a critical moment that is necessary. would like to focus my remarks briefly on the apaches. the amendment as proposed would allow the army to proceed with its restructuring initiative for army aviation. it could do everything they wanted. we need to keep the apaches and the guard. the do not need attack helicopters because it does not serve any purpose while the governor does not need apaches. well, frankly, we have to remember that the guard and reserve compon

we looked at the national guard option as well. bstantial surge capability but less wartime capacity than the ari and it does add to costs. the commission then looked at wide variety of other options. more battalions than the guard. in the end we recommend that the army maintain 24 battalions of apaches, 20 of them in the regular army, they would each be equipped with 24 aircraft. that's the same as the ari and modify ari to keep four battalions of apaches in the national guard. each of them would be equipped with 18 apache aircraft or helicopters. you need 24 to fight. so what they would do during a mobilization is borrow helicopters from another unit, and it works. call it cross living. it's something the guard does fairly routinely. not all deploying at the same time. the commission option provides more wartime capacity than the ari. yet also provides some surge capability. it does add to costs and that's a potential disadvantage. we estimated operating costs go up $165 million a year under the commission proposal. and it would b

but i was at national guard bureau, national guard bureau is a title x organization. it's a federal organization. it provides, it is the kind of communication between the state national guards with the signature of the army, secretary the air force and the secretary of defense. there is no command and control relationship. so they can't tell the guard. cannot tell the states what to do. but they can provide money for funding, et cetera. they can provide standards to which they need to drink you in order to be able to maintain their federal status. so one of the questions that came up during 9/11 when i was there was the issue of what can we do in order to perfect after 9/11 to protect the airports? the issue that came up was the national guard would perform that mission of providing support and security within the airports. so in order to be allowed back, one of the questions and issues we looked at was does posit, thomas apply? they can be used in support of or as an arm of law enforcement. lieutenant commander cody and put it into the of the more specific. the quest

the national guard is deployed for host of different reasons. will beonal guard deployed at the direction of the governor of the state. >> is that spelled out that it will be the governors of the border state governors? >> it is identified that the funding is for the governors should they choose. >> not for the border states. >> governors. >> yes. >> the national guard could be coming from arkansas or idaho. you still have not addressed my question as to training and whether or not they may appear in court or in matters where an arrest is made for you fix i doubt that the governor will call the national guard up in texas. it is not specify which governor. actually, it does. in the amendment offered by mr. rogers it specifically says stateshe heading fema, will be reimbursed. not know that until you are handed that piece of an aide.and eight -- thee are colleagues in recesses of the capital waiting for a vote do not have a clue what is in this 41 pages of legislation. i arrived here on time, i have not seen one single solitary word of it until i