lisa nandy, one of those saying she will step in. give us those saying she will step in.aign. us your political take on the labour leadership campaignlj us your political take on the labour leadership campaign. i need to say this at the top of this, the daily mirror, quite a key layer in most leadership contest, like the sun is for the conservative contests. we are withholding judgement. we want to listen to all the candidates. what i‘m saying is a personal view. actually, i am quite a strong admirer of lisa nandy. i think she speaks a lot of common sense. she is very rooted in her constituency of wigan. she understands it. her majority went down in the december election. but she compared the neighbouring seats which all fell to the conservatives, she showed remarkable resilience and bucked the trend. so that one bit of a red while held up there. and, you know, she is for deeply about what labour needs to do to reconnect with communities like wigan —— red wall. and all the other ones you can think of. so the downside, the problem she may overcome our she of. so the downsi

but obviously keir starmer is way out in front it looks increasingly difficult for either lisa nandiailey to catch him up. the theory put forward by andrew giese in this piece is he thinks there is still a way that lisa nandi might win if she manages. she gets first and second preferences and voting. laughter. when two. he is saying that if lisa manages to over ta ke saying that if lisa manages to over take rebecca to get in the second place, she could pick up enough of the second preference balance votes from rebecca to then overtake keir starmer and they think that is her path to victory although he says he is still thinks that is unlikely to happen. do you think there is any chance of keir starmer not when?” think, it is very hard to poll labour party members. that's not winning. we don't really know who they are. my husband is going to be voting and we had literature from keirstarmerand voting and we had literature from keir starmer and rebecca long bailey, nothing from lisa. i don't know is that it's just us or suggest a carcampaign is know is that it's just us or suggest a car

likely lisa nandy will run. so much in the last ten years that all of the young people who were out door knocking and gave up so much of their time will not want... they were very happy with the manifesto and they will not want to return to a period where they weren't party members and they felt that blair and brown had abandoned so many young people and working class communities. who do you think the tories would most fear out of that selection, there is and riders? the tories would find it most tricky dealing with a jess phillips type character or keir starmer, someone who in keir starmer's case has the incisiveness and argument and does not have jeremy corbyn's flaws orjess phillips, someone who can really resonate and browse on twitter, the populace generally. does it matter if it is a remainer? somebody who is instinctively doubt that we have learned two things from jeremy corbyn's attempt to straddle the divide and brexit, it is hard in a way because there are those labour are leavers instinctively in a se

people like lisa nandi, caroline, even though they are remains mps, they we re though they are remains voted to leave. when you break down the money it does not look that much. not only the grand scheme of things. if you really wanted to do something for our towns, you need serious cash, billions, not millions. that will not go far. and tory mps are asking why they are helping labour mps. the key remainers will say leaving the eu will make it more difficult for a lot of these towns. a lot of these towns get european money anyway. but theresa may it needs every vote she can get and if it means chucking money at mps, she will do that but some will take the money and still reject the deal. i am feeling really cynical tonight. this is yet more bribery. more people have paid their taxes under self—assessment. bribery. more people have paid their taxes under self-assessment. good on them. perhaps we could have an independent audit of this because i not sure i believe it. people are not sure i believe it. people are not spending it like they used to because they worry about rex said. —— brexi

just talking about who could probably stand up as the next leader, lisa nandi have spoken as a possiblesto spoken as a possible. she said the manifesto made little sense. spoken as a possible. she said the manifesto made little senselj spoken as a possible. she said the manifesto made little sense. i think it is really the communication of the manifesto. often, iwas confused by the fact that there would be press releases talking about two different kinds of manifesto, a disability and a work manifesto. how could you have two big stories on the same day. it seemed incredibly flawed, the communication strategy. in terms of candidates, who are you thinking and what other members are saying to you? the membership seems very keen on keir starmer. and obviously he is pro— remain and he is from london and he is a man so that could be a bit of a backlash. angela rayner as another possibility, proper working class. a bit of a jeremy corbyn supporter but the right of the party are also keen on her. jess phillips... is sheet to radical? jess phillips? i think members will not be so keen onjess phi

pushing for corbyn to adopt a much more programming stands for very long time, only some of them, lisa nandiarolyn flynn, also pro—brexit who really have a leg to stand on i think when it comes to this stuff. what is troubling, perhaps, is that there seems to be an element of denial at the top of the labour party. this was, i mean i was out on the doorsteps listening to people and talking to people around the country, and the message was, it was corbyn and the policies. and it was not just brexit. corbyn and the policies. and it was notjust brexit. if you look corbyn and the policies. and it was not just brexit. if you look at the polling done since then it's amongst people who switched from labour to the conservatives between 2017 and 2019, only 6% said it was that policies and the vast majority sided corbyn and brexit, deftly in absence of the kind of leadership that johnson presented which was a very strong, put your faith in me, i will do x, y, and z strong, put your faith in me, i will do x, y, and 2 which is never been jeremy corbyn's style. it's also interesting to see the parallel wi

lisa nandy has been talking about it.proach, instead, have spearheaded an international operation to distribute and create a vaccine. uk held a conference with the eu raising funds, and was positive, but oi'i raising funds, and was positive, but on the same day the us will wasn't involved there. the worrying thing there is we are talking about creating a vaccine at the moment. what happens when the vaccine is created and is right, will everyone ta ke created and is right, will everyone take the kind of doggy dog approach in terms of distribution? this are things we need to consider. this is very political. you talk about response. tim, you mentioned earlier the wider issues around russia. the russia embassy in london fired a warning shot by saying "any unfriendly actions against russia will not be left without a proper and adequate response. " will not be left without a proper and adequate response." what you make of that? that's what russia threatens. of course the danger is this week, there's also been a week where brit

we have already had lisa nandi saying she is not ruling out.ast but she was on andrew marr today saying this is the first time she is not going to rule it out and there has been talk of rebecca long bailey whojohn mcdonnell has mentioned he will probably be the favourite candidate of some of the people who have been leading the labour party in the recent yea rs. leading the labour party in the recent years. also talk ofjess phillips. i think it is less likely that cooper and emily thornbury are going to be people that go for it but they names are in the mix. keir starmer is the only man but i don't know if richard burgin will go for it given he is also from the similar wing as rebecca long bailey. a lot of people have talked about it saying it needs to be a woman who will be the next leader that people need to remember that mps will back there candidates that they want to back and you need to get a certain percentage of the support from the plp and they will go to members was not whoever gets that spot will get on the ballot paper and really it

keir starmer, lisa nandy, andjust phillips. would make a strong leader of the party. —— and jess phillips. is rebecca long—bailey to associated with jeremy corbyn? totally, she is the continuity candidate. and if she becomes a leader of the labour party i fear it would be fatal for the party. i think it would be an absolute disaster. and we thornberry isa absolute disaster. and we thornberry is a good bit better but not much. —— emily thornberry. my worries about keir starmer is that he has spent the last four years on the front bench and all credit to him trying to bring the party into a present bull position on brek said but he spent so much of its time trying tojuggle the different but he spent so much of its time trying to juggle the different winds of the party and ijust wonder whether he is bold enough to go out there and strike a new direction for there and strike a new direction for the party which i think is absolutely what has to happen. because the labour party has to start talking to the country and not itself and i

. —— lisa nandy. it was a dismal defeat. the trick about going forward , dismal defeat.nd a way to hang oi'i somebody who can find a way to hang on to the left manifesto, elements of it, which is very popular in the public and supported by the membership but is able to communicate that across the party. so it is not necessarily someone seen you only appeals to one faction or the other. that would be the test, to take the left policies but communicate them to coalesce the entire party and convince the public. do you have a view on who should be the next leader of the labor party? i think it is important to have good opposition in the country and if labour kid themselves that far left policies will render them power, ifi that far left policies will render them power, if i was a tory, which i am not, iwould them power, if i was a tory, which i am not, i would say bring it on. if rebecca long—bailey or angela rayner... that is like shovelling the deckchairs around the titanic. you need someone who has to go down the centre—left path because that is 00:20:38,715 --> 429496610

lisa nandy times are talking about an opinion poll saying that boris johnson talking about an opinionng ahead, that borisjohnson is surging ahead, that it that borisjohnson is surging ahead, thatitis that borisjohnson is surging ahead, that it is really a race for second place among his rivals and they are effectively pitching for cabinet jobs. yes, so in the pitch for cabinetjobs, the jobs. yes, so in the pitch for cabinet jobs, the argument jobs. yes, so in the pitch for cabinetjobs, the argument is that sajid javid wants to be paris's chancellor, dominic raab is hoping he can be home secretary, so a race for second. michael gove has done a more interesting thing where the pitch he is currently making looks like she wants to solve written's housing crisis which obviously the conservatives i think it will be key to winning the next election. actually finally tackling this thing that we have talked about for years 110w. that we have talked about for years now. and so he is actually ugly pitching for a department that doesn't tend to be very high profile, the community department. doin

there is only lisa nandy, sir keir starmer, and the shadow business secretary rebecca long—bailey leftrite. mustn‘t forget, he is a man of the pretty ha rd left. forget, he is a man of the pretty hard left. he has got a pretty left—wing past. so he will appeal to a lot of the called ministers who joined the labour party. whether he is the right man to move it into an election winning position, is another thing. he says borisjohnson isa another thing. he says borisjohnson is a dangerous man so we will have five years to see how dangerous borisjohnson is before keir starmer has a chance, if he wins, to take him on. keir starmer against boris johnson, could you see him winning that battle? possibly. i don't see that battle? possibly. i don't see that keir starmer has the charisma of borisjohnson. i do think we are i'iow of borisjohnson. i do think we are now into personality politics. the labour party's now into personality politics. the labour pa rty's problem now into personality politics. the labour party's problem is they don't have somebody who has the star quality. you both being li

when you have a situation where for example lisa nandy was talking about celebrating or defending free argument that had clearly been lost in the two previous elections. if you don't actually knuckled down and do the basic work of trying to work out where it went wrong you're just of trying to work out where it went wrong you'rejust in of trying to work out where it went wrong you're just in danger of repeating the same mistakes over over again. it's interesting because if we look at the independent‘s front page they have a sort of different focus on the message from sir keir starmer and his attempt to try and win over some of the votes from the hard left. yes. it says labour needs a radical package to win elections. i think a radical idea was win some votes. that's pretty radical, they've not been very good at that over the last 15 years. there are serious issues with the party and at the moment it is not fit for purpose and not fit for government. it begs the question as to whether people vote on policies or whether sometimes they just vote on personalities. so that is a situation wh

richard berghan, the shadowjustice secretary and other candidates like jess phillips and lisa nandy.n the road of corbyn policy, they will be out of power for more yea rs. they will be out of power for more years. that manifesto has been roundly rejected by the electorate. it will be down to the members. lucy powell, the labour mp, said there needs to be no infighting, do not rush to judgment about what happened because if you look at some of the seats that were lost, it is complicated in different areas, what is happening, the collapse of the labour vote in some places, but in other places, the split of the remain vote which meant the tories one. she is saying, take some time to assess what is happen, do not throw everything out, we think about the climate crisis, the policies needed on that. it will be the members, so we will all debate in interviews like this, at length within the next few months about who should be the next leader but what will happen is the mps that make it onto the ballot paper, it is not like the conservative party leadership contest, more the two will make it

format already have enough to go to the next stage, which is keir starmer, lisa nandy, jess phillipsly lasted nine hours, didn't he?! and the deputy leadership, we have yet to see if richard burgon has got enough. but keir starmer is significantly ahead at the moment. what is interesting is his patch. the video that he put out at the launch, pre—the launch. it really patched him as being quite radical. i think the argument he was trying to say was, look, i have done an awful lot of things. i have not shouted about them. because he is a relatively... i mean, he is not one of these politicians that makes a huge amount of noise about every single thing that they do. but he was saying tojudge single thing that they do. but he was saying to judge him single thing that they do. but he was saying tojudge him on his record. the libel case, various times that he has supported trade union activity, protesters against working conditions, and that element. his difficulty is, obviously, being the frontrunner, eve ryo ne obviously, being the frontrunner, everyone is trying to take you down. that i

inside the sunday mirror, josie, we have got lisa nandi and a great headline.tly unexpected, we had seen this coming for some time. i fear if you jokes coming on, he is coming to steve na g e. coming on, he is coming to stevenage. stevenage is not a place they lost last time, they lost some time ago. even though he was probe remained, he can reach out to brexit supporting towns. exactly, ithink that'll be one of the big point that he makes. the labour party was predominantly remain, so that'll be somewhere where he can take up some support. in addition to that, he is also, he is quite business that they, he has that acumen that perhaps they, he has that acumen that perhaszeremy they, he has that acumen that perhaps jeremy corbyn might they, he has that acumen that perhaszeremy corbyn might have liked. so, as a result of that, i think that he, you know, he stands a good chance of picking up a pair portion. time is against this, david. another political story, if we made. anotherfigure who is determined not to be consigned to history. nigel farage. halfway throug

i think lisa nandy and jess phillips are being pretty straightforward about the crisis that the partyd candidates there. obviously it's a complex process. they have got across the first hurdle and there is another big hurdle to come over the next week, getting trade union support and support from various organisations and constituency labour parties and so on. you would have to be a kremlinoligist to understand how the whole process works but people have the chance to have their say. there is a 48 hour window when anybody can pay £25 to become a registered supporter and have a vote in who the party leader will be and i hope people take up the opportunity. whether you are a strong labour supporter or not, it is important for our democracy to have a strong and effective opposition and the leadership is crucial to that. moving on to the financial times, contracting economy adds to pressure for rate cut. lance, let's talk to you about this first off. it struck me when i read this story. on the one hand you've got one member of the bank of england monetary policy committee saying, "oh, wel

knows but it's a very interesting intervention at this moment and again on another front page, lisa nandyelling up. labour is moving its tax onto the law occupied with things we would traditionally associate with the tories such as patriotism and these huge commitments to level up britain. there has not been the progress we could have expected. the there has not been the progress we could have expected.— could have expected. the travel chaos we have _ could have expected. the travel chaos we have been _ could have expected. the travel chaos we have been talking - could have expected. the travel i chaos we have been talking about this morning seems potentially 10,000 brits are stranded abroad as a result of cancelled flights. the sunday times says heathrow orders airlines to ditch a third of passengers, they say that more flights have to be cancelled, airlines have to cut by one third the number of passengers flying by terminals at certain times until the 3rd ofjuly warning that without a reduction in demand the operation would not be considered safe. something obviously causing real diffi

when someone like lisa nandy, who is a very impressive popular and rightly so majorfigure now, she waser constituency. you can always... you can always i in her constituency. you can | always... you can always cut in her constituency. you can i always... you can always cut it a lot of ways. a reminder, those are older viewers from the gramlich factory trike in the late 70s, when mainly indian women employed at the factory who were dismissed and there was a dispute over theirjobs. dismissed and there was a dispute overtheirjobs. it dismissed and there was a dispute over theirjobs. it became quite a bitter dispute. surely williams was on the picket line, along with dennis howell, so i guess some of theseissues dennis howell, so i guess some of these issues are not new ones. just mentioning john lewis giving staff free food for three months. the times also reports that a pub endorsed it, shut with immediate effect, because it's bills have increased to £58,000. food banks are saying they want non—cooked food because they don't want to have to spend money cooking it. let's move on to the vo

. it�*s interesting you picked up the mask wearing point, but because yesterday i interviewed lisa nandiink it's fair to say most of the front bench, not all, but most now wear masks in the house of the chamber of commons. but there seems to be tension over the conservative party about this, and boris has tried to write up both horses. now it looks like he's come on this side of mask wearers? ~ , ,., y like he's come on this side of mask wearers? ~ , ,., , ., �* like he's come on this side of mask wearers? ~ ,,., , ., �* , wearers? absolutely, and we've seen re orts wearers? absolutely, and we've seen reorts in wearers? absolutely, and we've seen reports in recent _ wearers? absolutely, and we've seen reports in recent days _ wearers? absolutely, and we've seen reports in recent days of _ wearers? absolutely, and we've seen reports in recent days of boris - reports in recent days of boris johnson — reports in recent days of boris johnson not wearing his mask in settings — johnson not wearing his mask in settings where people believe it's really— settings where people believe it's really