yes. >> my earliest memory of bill buckley is when he ran for mayor in new york in 1965. i was wondering why he never again ran as a candidate for public office? >> he thought about it. i mean, i remember one of our directors' dinners and val galbraith was traveling from paris and much wine was consumed and van was the most bold man. so van was van and van had had a few and this was sort of like late in reagan's first term. it was not clear that reagan was going to run again. there was real doubt out there and a lot of it fueled by nancy 'cause she was not sure that he could win reelection. you know, there was a very bad recession and she didn't want her husband to risk defeat and that sort of fueled a lot of uncertainty and speculation. so van said, well, bill, you should run. yeah, and he was kind of serious about this. he was kind of serious about this. and bill was listening to it kind of seriously. i mean, not seriously, seriously but kind of seriously. and i did one of the things that just kind of astonished me when i thought about it 'cause i remembered what happen

i could picture bill buckley graduating this month -- >> that is an excellent question ended the question about people's talents and opportunities. bill had brilliant skills as a journalist. at 750 words at the top of his game, just didn't get better and that was the form that existed in the years that he lived and worked. on television, he was made for the television era that he entered, and he transformed. firing line starts in 1966, and walter cronkite and johnny carson, the edgy as things in mainstream television. firing line is like from another galaxy, it starts with the brandenburg concerto, bill's mannerisms and accents' and the content of what he is saying. and one of the interesting anecdotes that came my way, i was in a new school that afterwards, an old man came to me and said do you see mr. buckley? yes, i do. pc dirksen senate office building you thank him for me? i am a man of the left and firing line is the only place in the late 60s were leftwingers could get to say their views at length. bill let them say that so he could do it out with them. the media has changed, it is

priscilla buckley, bill's older sister and managing editor, and i have read it and weçó want to publish anyone who submit something for the approval of the world expects in somee1 corner of his mind that he will be approved but when approval actually çóca, it was startling. the world2od public events which included the media that reported on it, was out there, and now someone from out there had signalled back. to contribute to freight expenses. the idea that i might be paid in addition to being published was icing on the cake. about the time the check arrived, i began getting letters from readers. there were 20 in all, which would be a small response in the days of e-mail and texting but in 1969 when each of these communications had to be sealed, stamped and dropped in a mailbox, it was impressive, all the more to someone who had never gotten a letter from anyone he did not know. i know why the assistant managing editor, mr. buckley and ms. buckley, published it, the dog walking on its hind legs, 16-year-old speaks. i was also a dog bites man. there were plenty of young people even in t

i am not bill buckley or writing for him. i europe around in new york close to rochester a midsize upstate city with my parents and my older brother bob. in the fall of 1969 that i was a freshman in the public high-school i did not know anybody who went to a private one. my brother was a junior at yale. every weekend since he had gone away to college i wrote him on a small black middle typewriter that belonged two mom, a letter rehearsing the events of the week. basketball games, school plays, a little tryouts and tidy disasters bullets of adolescence and dramatize. one week the news barged in the home theater. with the vietnam war called for a nationwide moratorium on october 15. the moratorium look to be on the big campuses with boycotting campuses and glasses were planned. some kids and my high school decided to join him. i thought they were wrong. i also thought there was something phony about the exercise simultaneously copycat. but they were tagging along with a national movement mimicking elders. i decided to put count

i met bill buckley by writing for him.rew up in new york, a suburb of rochester, a midsize upstate city with my parents and my older brother, bob. in the fall of 1969, i was a freshman in the local public high school. i didn't know anybody who went to private ones. my brother was a junior at yale. every weekend the school year since he had gone away to college i wrote him on a small black metal typewriter that had belonged to mom, a letter rehearsing the events of the week. basketball games, school plays, little triumphs, tiny disasters, bulletins of adolescence dramatized and ironyized. one week the news barged into this home theater. opponents of the vietnam war had called for a nationwide moratorium or a day of protests on october 15th. the moratorium looked to be a big thing on college campuses where boycotts of classes were planned. some kids in my high school decided to join in. i thought they were wrong. i also thought there was something phony about the exercise, simultaneously preening and copycat. the moratorium

a conservatism that was reaffirmed by russell kirk, by bill buckley. i love bill buckley. he was asked in 2005, i loved what he said about george w. bush. and what he said about the iraq war and the president's plan and the second inaugural address, due in journey across the globe. there's a conservative restraint concept. two in journey across the globe. buckley said sadly we conservatives are supposed to be restrained by reality and we haven't been conservatives are supposed to conserve. whether it's a taxpayer dollars whether it's military power. my god, the military fincher is a. the belief that you can export democracy to four corners of the globe. that you can send our troops everywhere. and again, president bush's words, and journey across the globe. that is not a conservative concept. that is a radical concept the type of spending that occurred over the past eight years. nonconservative. radical. entitlement spending. medicare and medicaid are going to go bankrupt. they are going to collapse. they are going to destroy its economy if we don't do something about it.

step by step, bill buckley recommended me to the search committee. the search committee was headed by a bill brought back. he kept calling. at first i was getting messages that they wanted to talk to me. then i read this whole document of the college and talked to bill and found him to be a spectacular man. this old document of the college -- i began to think, i see. i might try to run the college out of that. you would obey it and the board would obey it. we managed the college that way. i tried to make it hard to have an argument with me. i want people to have an argument with it. if they do not want to argue that, there is no reason to argue at all. >> recently announced a washington program run by virginia thomas. tell us about that. >> virginia thomas is an old friend of mine. she is a friend of mine of long standing, she is not that old. she is married to clarence thomas, and he is a man i admire very greatly and have known since before he was known to many other people. i think highly of him and very highly of her. i have had this idea for a lo

step by step, bill buckley recommended me to the search committee. the search committee was headed by bill broadback. he is chairman of the board now, a very close friend of mine. he kept calling. at first i was getting messages that they wanted to talk to me. i kept getting messages and why would you do that? then i read this whole document of the college and talked to bill and found him to be a spectacular man. this old document of the college it is very beautiful. you can find it on our website. i began to think, oh, i see. what you might want to do is try to run the college out of that. it would be the law. you would obey it. the board would obey it. we managed the college that way. i tried to make it hard to have an argument with me. i want people to have an argument with it. if they do not want to argue that, there is no reason to argue at all. >> recently announced a washington program run by virginia thomas. >> yeah. >> tell us about that. >> virginia thomas is an old friend of mine. she is a friend of mine of long standing, she is not that ol

i'm not bill buckley, but i am writing for him.i grew up in new york, a suburb of rochester, a midsize city with my parents and my older brother, bob. in the fall of 1969, i was a freshman in the local public high school i didn't know anybody who went to private ones. my brother was a junior at yale. every weekend of the school year since he had gone away to college, i wrote him on a small, black metal typewriter that had belonged to mom. a letter reversing the events of the week. basketball games, school plays, little triumphs, tiny disasters, bulletins of adolescents dramatize an ionized. when we, the news barged into this home theater.

>> guest: when i first on a writing a column i asked bill buckley my friend, you ever have trouble coming up with things to read and he said no, the world annoys me three times a week. the world and noise coming interests, amuses me a lot more than five times every to a switches hamid karzai right. i think the happiness a columnist barry's inversely with the help of the republican the more problems we have the more fun it is to write and this is to say no more a great time to write. >> host: how do you stay up that all? >> guest: read constantly incessantly beer and i read four or five hours a day. >> host: we appreciate you being here taking time out of your reading and preparation to listen to our callers questions and some of their the simmons with their points of view and compliments. thanks again. >> guest: i enjoyed it. now the second day of the senate health committee meeting on health care legislation. christopher dodd of connecticut is acting chairman stepping in for ted kennedy who is being treated for cancer this is three hours. [inaudible conversations]tñ >> committee will com

years but conservatism the way it has been defined over the past two centuries by russell kirk, by bill buckley. is a great line were echoed the buckley in 2005 asked about george w. bush and he says, george w. bush is no conservative. he said conservatives whether we like it or not we conservatives are chained to reality with to that is what two help me out on the edmund burke. if you want to foil that message down it is matt we are part of our time, we are chained to reality. we can give inaugural addresses -- you respect reality. you don't as buckley said of bush, you don't go into iraq and say you are going to bring democracy to these people and are going to throw flowers at us and everything's going to be okay. you don't give inaugural addresses where we're going in tyrrany on the globe, the president's words, that is utopianism that is wilsonian. in so the last best hope. >> host: oddly where the aggressive. >> guest: as you said messages inebriation also. but here is the deal, it is one of the reasons republicans are having such a hard time i now is that they are being told and some repu

gateway drug to worst drugs, but i tend increasingly to believe that my old friend and employer, bill buckley, and his magazine national review were right when more than a decade ago conservative magazine national review said that drug war is lost and we have to find something to do besides introduction -- that is fighting the drug problem on the supply side in. instead we have to deal with the demand and may have to particularly make more careful discriminations between the things we have prescribed -- marijuana is not cocaine and its affect and social cost of all the rest. so i think the caller raised is interestingly going to be within the next five years and discuss the bill issue. >> host: the hearings got under way on capitol hill for the outlines of the health care legislation and the last sunday you were talking about health care on the program getting ready for discussion and i saw quite a bit of olive -- kuala commentary so i thought i would show to people who did not hear your points and then come back and talk about where you think the debate will go. here it is. >> the president