we saw with the caribou. people talking about how terrible it is to produce oil in alaska and we heard if they ever put that pipeline up to prudhoe bay, it would kill off the caribou in the area. it would destroy their mating habits. turns out that caribou, now when they want to go on dates, invite each other to go to the pipeline on cold weather nights because that oil is warm going through the pipeline and makes them amarous and up to 30,000 caribou in that heard hh. turns out that -- herd. but it reminds one a little bit about the scare that went across the nation about carbons. we had toe outlaw those that were destroying the ozone layer. and one eruption of mount saint hellens put that into the atmosphere. sometimes i think we think much too highly of ourselves as human beings and the effect we have on the world and the globe when we need to be good stewards of this wonderful planet, but we should not be fear monday engineerers that scare people out of doing things to help themselves and their families.

in all big game including caribou. and what interests me is writing a book like "the wilderness warrior" is roosevelt really is the father of u.s. fish and wild life. if john muir is the create or of the sarah club. roosevelt felt there was an obligation to save efficient and animals and plants and trees and the president has an obligation to make sure that we put aside for generations unborn natural wonders like roosevelt did like the grant canyon or mount olympus or the petrified forest. this turned this training center for conservation into a museum for theodore roosevelt. >> when did you get interested in theodore roosevelt? i loved him since childhood. i enjoyed lead reading about him. i loved the buy graph i-s. i really got interested in him in 1992 when i had a program, "the magic bus" that brings students across the country. i went to the badlands of north dakota. it's the western edge. that's where t.r. spent his ranching days as a cowboy and did some hunting. he wrote incredible books, particularly called "th

i was a day caribou -- i met a guy who just became a citizen. i said, you might know more about our government and how it works than a lot of americans. what were some of the questions? he said

he thought of eradicating walls because he wanted to save the antelope and caribou, deer and elk. the first book published by president as president ever was theatre roosevelt called "to the deer family." she wrote about all the deer populations america using charts of where they live and how to get back. today we have so many deer in the country that it's not a problem. but 100 years ago they were dying out. we almost did not have any. the same as with the birds dying. we used to have the carolina parakeet. the about south carolina and georgia they're all over, these beautiful parakeets. they are extinct. imagine the passenger pigeon. voting goes on. you have to go to the bahamas to see them. roosevelt wanted to save all these. he felt that added to the charm of american life. that in many ways he looked up with frederick jackson turner frontier ideas and believed what made the american what was was the wilderness areas. he felt we would lose our character if we lost it. when did you write the first chapter? >> i started writing my prologue four years ago on pelican island in flo

this is walking past pictures of caribou in alaska. roosevelt was very interested in all nature, including terrible. what interests me in writing my book is roosevelt is the father of the u.s. fish and wildlife. the crater of the sierra club. roosevelt realized the federal government had the responsibility to save the species of birds and animals, plants and trees, and the president has an obligation to make sure we criticiz protect nl wonders like the grand canyon or mount olympus or the petrified forests for future generations. at this training center he turned this into a -- we turned this into museum of theater roosevelt. >> when did you become interested in him? >> i've loved him since childhood. i read edmund morris's biography and david mccullough's. in 1992 i had a program called "the magic bus. i went to north dakota in the badlands, the western edge. that is where he spent his ranging days, a theater roosevelt. he wrote an incredible book called "the wilderness hunter." there was an incredibly informed writing about the biolo

the late 1880's out of new york to save the big game of america, to save buffalo, antelope, deer, caribou from being exterminated. they would commission articles and roosevelt would write them -- see, this one's on elk. these are great old books that roosevelt got very involved in bringing out these boone and crockett club books. it was about gentleman hunters. they were working to save animals to shoot animals. people have problems with that some today. but it was the hunters of america that really form the early conservation movement. it was done by field and forest magazine, and what became "field and stream" magazine, but all those sporting journals that started putting that you've got to have bag limits, you've got to put a fish back if it has eggs, you've got to not shoot a doe. we take this for granted now. but roosevelt was -- and george byrd grenel, at a ohio university, he proofread my chapters on grenel, because he's the other important figure in my book. grenel was the american authority on game. >> last couple questions. who pays for all your travel, all these sites, and all

investigate officially connected travel sponsored, fund, and arranged by an organization known as carib news. a subcommittee will determine whether the trips violated house trip will spread under investigation are chairman of ways and means committee, charlie rangel, and four of the democrats. senator bob brown bought -- senator brown back is the third above and sang he will vote against sonia sotomayor's nomination did any speech the senator said he is afraid judge suleyman york -- judge sonia sotomayor wants to be a player more than an umpire. >> "washington journal" continues. host: we welcome former congressman, governor, and secured a secretary, tom ridge. the department of homeless security formed in march of 2003. has the the problem of that to your expectations? guest: yes. i think one of the problems is when the aggregate 180,000 people, different agencies, and still try to build a system that works a more collaborative and effective fashion. but, yes, i think it has appeared a lot of people work very hard to form a fundamental policy decisions to assist not only president bush

meaning they would use ways to eradicate wolves because he was mainly wanting to save the antelope, caribou, deer and elk. a factoid, brian, because you do presidential history so much. the first book published by a president as president ever was theodore roosevelt's book, a byline by a president as it was in the white house was t.r.'s book called "the deer family." he wrote about all of the deer populations in america using charts of where they lived and how to get back. today we have so many deer in the country, it's not a problem. 100 years they were dying out. we almost didn't have deer. he was seeing the birds dying. we used to have the carolina parakeet. if you read about south carolina and georgia during the revolutionary war, they were all over, these beautiful carolina parakeets. they were an extinct species. i mentioned the passenger pigeon. flamingos gone from america. you have to go to bahamas to save them. roosevelt wanted to save them because he felt that added to the charm of american life that in many ways he hooked up with frederick jackson turner's frontier thesis and bel

in this country we do a very good management technique to ensure that tax may be wolf, fish, bear, caribou, moose, whatever the wild life is that we are managing it in a very careful way because we not only have everything from hunters and alaskan natives that utilize animals for subsistence lifestyle. we have sports hunting, we have monde sports hunting and people like myself who are my family goes out fishing and we eat fish a lot in our household and if it's not once we get this multiple times. so, it's a very careful management system we have in alaska. from the outside sometimes it may not look as well done as some people might like to think but i think we do a very good job the issue of wolfpack is very controversy will not only around the country but at times within alaska itself. >> host: the final call, shame on the independence line from ridgely iowa. >> caller: good morning to both of you. i want to touch quickly on something an earlier call said about the military spending and the fact that we spend more money than every other country in the world combined, military and that no

and, i would like everyone, if they would just take a minute, caribe aarp letter. i say to my good friend from georgia while the is reading the letter and i will be happy to wait until he does. this is very important and i really want to work with you on this senator isakson. >> mr. chairman walz senator isakson is having a chance to get up, caught up, having just walked in, let me say i'm more than willing to work with my chairman on the subcommittee. i think that, i understand senator isakson's passion about doing it now. this is the healthcare bill. this is a vehicle that is going and i think there's a concern on his part, even if we came to the same conclusion, would you have the consensus across congress to do this? and i remind all of my colleagues that it could be as simple as the senior going in and their direct it is, do everything to keep me alive you possibly can. this is not parsing this in some term, unless they have thought about it and i think that is what senator isakson is trying to do, is to get individuals on the record so that there is some inst