all donnelley, we did not stand up at the newspaper and screaming bloody mess -- bloody murder. she is a historical phrase, or misused, when they came for her the gannett papers, i said nothing. eventually they came for the to be in rivers, and now the only people left -- initially they came for the tribune papers. it has made incredible profits. what has happened was a pure, unencumbered, raw capitalism. it is never the answer for anything that involves a public mission. if you look at the wall street and its analysts and big many investors have played with american industries and have appreciated the actual mission of those industries in order to achieve profit, there will be someone making money until they chose -- until the close the doors at "the sun." they will be doing less and less journalism. that would be my critique. we did this to ourselves. when the internet came along, all of the r &d money that was supposed to be spent in the 1980 party in a 1990 proxy -- in the 1980's and the 1990's, the wanted to figure out how to justify how to charge more. that money went to w