when you're in the ninth inning and what rob did the other day and huffy did last week against the metsght against lindstrom. that's a confidence boost for everybody on the team. like i've said before, we were -- we deposit have too much success after the eighth inning we were behind. all it takes is one time to breakthrough and you know you can do it and you start believing you can do it and the next time it becomes easier. >> jim: dave, we know you're busy down there. appreciate the visit. thank you for joining use you're welcome, fellas. >> jim: that's dave trembley on wired wednesday from the orioles bench nice enough to join us. sheer jason berken fouling to have as andino bounced out toshortstop. >> buck: this is berken's first major league at-bat. he did not play yet in interleague play. always a thrill. his heart is thumping a bit. he was a multiple athlete in high school in wisconsin. great football player. obviously, a baseball player and a basketball player. he's had the lumber in his hand before, but probably not since high school. >> jim: he was born in green bay. huge pack

but nelson mandela can get very huffy and stubborn at points. he is a great listener, but once he decides what ought to happen, incredibly stubborn. now they are all different but they are clearly have qualities that haven't been merged ahead of everybody else who was there at that time. with tony blair there were other people because gordon brown, other people who might have been leaders at the time, but there is a special intensity and purpose. >> host: you know, i think there is also this, which is that is and learn level, that is god-given. this is another thing i think is lower level but not to the extent that they do as well as god-given and that's communicate. you might give them the words but they make the delivery. we just saw tony james and some where we saw prime minister blair, and i said at this event help people at the bush 43 white house, whenever a prime minister is going to speak we would all shut down and watch him. he was so many flaws and eloquent, and he was so found the right words, the right sentences, the write paragraphs