ambassador jianmin wu from china. i am sorry. i just got the order wrong. on my immediate right is evgeny velikhov from the russian federation comment and from india, ambassador khan from pakistan, ambassadorsachan from japan, and tony lake from the united states. malcolm rifkind from the united kingdom, major-general tong from the people's republic of china, we also have on the phone with us igor yurgens from moscow. igor yurgens is the chairman of the management board of the institute of contemporary development and enjoys close ties with the presidential administration in russia. i am very briefly going to give you the main results of our deliberations to date. i will make one introductory point, there is a general consensus among the commission that whatever impact, positive impact nuclear-weapons may have had in terms of enforcing deterrence and stability during the cold war, any residual benefits of these weapons have been more than overshadowed in recent years by the growing risks of nuclear proliferation and the related risk of nuclear terrorism. th

>> i am a reporter from china and i have a question for ambassador jianmin wu. what do you think china, as another major nuclear power, what kind of road china can play in the frost says of nuclear-weapons reduction, and elimination, and also the pursuit of another kind of security -- without nuclear weapons? >> please. >> thank you for your question. first, china was the first to propose to the world a total ban on nuclear weapons, and the total destruction of nuclear weapons. we chinese, we believe nuclear-weapons have been created by human beings. one day, human beings know how to destroy it the nuclear arsenal. this is our goal. since 1964, china was proposing that to the world. we suggest to convened a global assemblage to discussed that, to reach the sort of agreement, then to ban forever nuclear weapons, destroy all nuclear weapons, so this idea, global zero, coincides with china's sinking. second point, we are living -- how to deal with the threat, the threat is felt not only by developed countries but by developing countries. we believe in that way, if