. >> thank, shannon kellogg. one point and then a question on the international front. i agree with you on the authentication on management issues and i think that mike's question was important. one thing i would throw out is there was a lot of focus what is happening in the government. there are sectors like the financial and industry that actually have for a number of reasons because of threat, financial loss, some of it because of market conditions and also the government push if you will have actually gone out and adopted based on the rest of the transactions a broad sense of authentication methods so i and encourage you to look with they are doing on that front. but the question is i agree with what you've been talking about on the terms of international coordination but going back to phyllis point about competitiveness and allen, perhaps this is something you might want to start off because i think it ties into the legislation senator rockefeller has introduced and that is what about the international implications for what we do at home? ansel, there are different