souder the chair recognizes mr. souder indiana for five minutes. mr. souder: thank you, madam speaker. i come tonight a little stunned. quite frankly, i didn't think the energy bill, the cap and trade bill would actually reach a point where it would come in front of the house, for that matter, the senate. when we're in the unemployment state we are in america, it seems rather ridiculous to bring bills that would put so many hardworking people out of work. the cap and trade bill, or as many of us call it, the cap and tax bill, or what a manufacturing district like mine would call a cap-and-trade-our-jobs-to-china bill. i have eight counties in my district. the mean of unemployment is 15%. two counties are at 19%. let me tell you about my best county. my best county, allen county, my home, anchored by fort wayne with a little under 3,000 people has an unemployment rate approaching 11%. we have one of the biggest pickup plants in the world, produces the silverado and sierra, i have been fighting hard to make sure they aren't knocked out of business. we ha

souder: thank you, mr. chairman. i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. souder: i rise in support of h. resolution 498, celebrating the anniversary of the border patrol. the border patrol was established in the immigration act of 1924 and celebrated its 85th anniversary just recently on may 28, 2009. the border patrol is one of the most public faces of the department of homeland security. for those who aren't familiar with the differences, the border patrol covers the areas between the ports of entry as opposed to the ports of entry. the 18,000 men and women in green work every day along the borders and coast lines of the united states, often in some of the most rugged and challenging terrain. i have this outsized map here, this sector had given me from texas. and this is just one small section of the border but i wanted to use it to illustrate a few points. it is one of the more, let's just say, rural parts of america. which is why it was featured in "no country for old men." because it was such a

souder: the heritage study showed that my district is number one in loss. next to me is joe donnelly. congressman latta who asked for the splitout is number three. mike pence, who is just to my south in that part of indiana is number four. congressman jordan is number five. and congressman boehner is number six. not only do we have manufacturing, but we tend to use col and nuclear because alternatives are less than an option and then jumps up to michigan. the other thing that is noticeable, that's where motion of the water is in the united states, coming out of the mississippi valley. and the manufacturer, you need water and access to water. you are not going to move -- if you see some of the orange states, you can move steel and manufacturing into those areas. but basically, you can't transfer to those light yellow because that is mostly desert area and you can't power these big plants with just solar and wind and don't have enough water to supplement the traditional that you need in refineries and steel mills and that type of thing and don't have a plan.

souder. the chair: the gentleman from indiana is recognized. mr. souder: i thank my friend mr. issa for his time and leadership here. in an earlier life of mine when i was with the children and family select committee back in the 1980's, my then boss dan coates was one of the members that supported the family medical leave bill which i didn't degree with. he told me i could sit in on all the meetings, people said it will never be paid, this is just to cover people for unpaid. you are a paranoid conservative because you hear talk about becoming paid. we watched this in the government arena and my daughter just had our second grandchild. she is a school teacher. the struggle was how was she going to deal with the time she was going to take off, was it going to be paid, during the school year, what happens when you have grants and she has two little kids, how do you this. what's fair? my oldest son and his wife both work in the government. they would love to have paid medical leave, but there are some problems here. it's one of the most controversial problems is what to do with th

souder. mr. souder: you've made a number of parliamentary points today during the debate and on the floor, you're an experienced judge as well as a congressman. is he allowed to use factual science on the floor? i don't know if we're allowed to really debate this stuff. this is mostly an ideological bill, not a factual bill. as mr. conaway correctly said, did they come to a conclusion and then make the facts fit the conclusion? it is really disturbing. much of what's behind this is in fact that there is a group of people who feel guilty about us being such a successful nation and about western nations being so successful. and that we use a disproportion -- use more energy than the rest of the world and other western countries like australia and new zealand are, hey, what's going on here? do we have to buy into this? what does it exactly mean that we need to sacrifice and go down in our lifestyle and what will we gain? is the science really there? then the developing countries that want to be like

souder rise? >> unanimous consent. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for five minutes. mr. souder: this is a sad day for america and i don't mean because of the death of michael jackson because of this legislation we just passed in energy were to become law, tens and hundreds of thousands of people would lose their jobs. in my district we're already getting green jobs, we'll have thousands of green jobs. but we're going to lose tens of thousands of other jobs. my congressional district in northeast indiana is the number-one manufacturing district in the united states. one county has 57% of the people working in manufacturing. i heard on this floor that, oh, we don't have any manufacturing jobs left in america anymore. oh, yes we do in my district, we have 30,000 jobs related to the recreational vehicle area. we have 40,000 jobs related to auto and truck. we make boats, we have tire factories, we have exal factories, we have wind shield factories. we are the manufacturing center along with joe donnell

souder, likewise is affected. i'd like to yield such time as he may use. mr. souder: i appreciate the honor of being an honorary texan here tonight because in indiana we are still unusual. we still make things. we don't have the mountains like they have out west or beaches. what we have are hardworking americans who are still competing worldwide in manufacturing. if you go into any of the types of plants. i was talking about our steel mills, another -- in addition to the two, huge mini mills with recycled steel, everything they use they recycle and use recycled materials. i have a steel mill, one of the interesting things they do is they built an additional facility because they are the number one provider of steel to the refinery industry in texas, in louisiana. so my district we are making the things still in america, your options are basically korea brazil, china, or indiana steel in many of these cases. but these factories take an incredible amount of energy that some our factories, we have 85% coal, 15% nuclear and our basic provision of things in that ba

souder: i yield myself the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. souder: i want to thank my friend and chairman of the subcommittee, ms. sanchez, who has been an excellent leader of the subcommittee, and we worked together closely on many things, not just noncontroversial bills like today. i thank mr. teague for his leadership and my long-time friend mr. reyes, also, chairman of the intelligence committee, not only for his work in congress but his work with the border patrol. again, most importantly, i want to thank every border patrol agent in america for protecting us, as well as chief david aguilar for his leadership and their service. it sometimes gets a tad boring, sometimes it gets a little hot. on the canadian border it gets a little cold. it isn't exactly the most exciting job in america at all times but what each of these agents do is important to our nation. it may not be politically correct to talk about terrorism right now but it's a key part of our first line defense in the boar

petri: i yield to our colleague from indiana, representative souder. mr. souder: i thank my friend from wisconsin for his leadership on transportation and for the time to speak on this bill. as a member of the boating caucus, since we first formed this, i'm really pleased to be supportive of this resolution. in indiana, in northeast indiana, basically, i represent a lot of water with plants and farms in between. and in our county, we have 100 lakes and another county we have 100 ladies and gentlemen. along one ridge, one goes to lake michigan and another goes down into the mississippi valley. we have -- because of geologic potholes, connected together sometimes through small dams, sometimes in natural larger lakes, we have the bulk of the lakes in indiana when the glaciers pulled back that in this zone, i guess we have 40% to 60% of the natural lakes in the state of indiana. some have historically been big attractions, not as big a tourist attraction as florida or wisconsin. for that matter, washington state. but winona lake, but we have a number of state

souder today and also for june 24, 25, and 26 for five minutes each. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. for what purpose does the gentleman from virginia rise? mr. connolly: madam speaker, i ask unanimous consent that today following legislative business and any special orders heretofore entered into that the following members may be permitsed to address the house for five minutes, revise and extend their remarks, and include therein extraneous material. ms. woolsey of california. mr. george miller of california. ms. kaptur of ohio. and mr. brady of pennsylvania. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. under the speaker's announced policy of january 6, 2009, and under previous order of the house, the following members are recognized for five minutes each. mr. poe of texas. the gentleman is recognized for five minutes. mr. poe: thank you, madam speaker. as dangerous to the public's health and well-being as government-run health care is in europe and canada, we have our own american example that hags serious problems. last month there was a

recipient should have souder is capped by the president or the congress. thank you. yield back the balance of my time. >> we will do one more minute to mr. moore. i apologize, we will go to mr. campbell. >> thank you, mr. chairman. you know, there's no argument there been instances, a number of them and which people and companies have been paid a great deal for not much performance. the question is what do we do about it? as someone who has designed compensation plans for hundreds of the employees in my 25 year career i will tell you it isn't easy and sometimes people too much for too little and sometimes paid people to a little for too much performance, for a lot of performance and the idea that somehow some washington bureaucracy, washington bureaucrat can do this better than people in the business and the company is simply ludicrous. also i believe the idea of having a direct shareholder vote opens the idea of direct democracy within corporations which leads to the question should be also have them approved union contracts and approve major expenditures, etc. all

congressman souder from indiana. >> thank you. i think that there was some prediction as you went into office it was we to be a relatively activist said, and i think -- i think that you've certainly been an activist. do you see in the descriptions as we look a peace e-mails, and i think cases can be made that there was a certain feeling of intimidation at the bank of america at the same time that a bank of america probably used the situation to leverage their game. do you see how you got involved here as something extraordinary in the sense you felt the system is collapsing or will this be a repetitive pattern of the fed? obviously -- >> can the gentleman talk directly in the microphone, we are having trouble hearing. >> several other times whether the asian flu or various crisis that had given the fed chairman taken this aggressive role? >> the past two years have been the worst financial crisis since the 30's. it's threatened the stability of the global financial system and the global economy. extraordinary actions have been tak