. >> dick chey is thenly one who hasn't vying for access and influencand credibilit credibil the rolehat almost by definiti is held up to some ridicule. i think 's doing fine and i think it's real they makefun of him and condescend to him. i've heard it myself. >> charlie: they do? >> yh, they do. but it doesn't mean they don't give him serious works. >> chaie: gaffs? >> neediness. >> charlie: needins? >> allice presidenthaveo vie for me. >> charlie: that's a new ter who are the emerging stars in the obama administration? >> in the administration -- i think it's true of man white uses but the place to watch is the white housthe cire ound the president and i think in foreign policy thers a small circle of people who's names you hav't nessarily heard, m donnalin and jf cdonough and i tnk it's ue of alot of admistration has policies are being made in the white house and ople at the agcies andecretary clinton haveo work hard to get to bheard. >> crlie: what about geithner. >> he's ctainly survid and recoverewhich is -- after i ink they had entirely sought rough theact he hadn't ne televis

there are claims that r dick chey ordered the c.i.a. to keep chhe plan away from congress. >>> the investigation widens and two more arrests are expected in the murder of bird and melanie billings. they dedicated their lives to adopting special needs children. four people are behind bars. police say one motive is robbery but there are multiple motives ab eight sus -- and eight suspect news three inmates made a daring break out of the indiana state prison sunday. security guards helped nab one, but the others are still on the loose. tara williams has the latest. >> i didn't think i would come to michigan. >> reporter: joann colin was nervous about making the trip to her home this morning after hearing about a convicted murderer being caught in the village near her vacation home. >> there were a number of cars in the vicinity, so i knew something was up. >> reporter: dally was asleep inside with his wife and three grandchildren and outside a chicago police veteran noticed two men who looked disoriented, walking toward lake michigan. he sa

. >>> comi up, the secret cia program dick chey didn't want congss to know about. this is serious buness. democrats want an investigation into why the former vice present reportedly kept it fromongressional leaders. they're supposed to kn what the cia is up to. he, according to this report, dinot want them to know about this assassinaon plan. why didick cheney do it? did he break the law we'll get to thaen we come back. it's a hotne. the ances of a full-blown vestigation are red hot. wewe havconfidence anand all have doubt. but when theoment comes... wh's going to win? here's to confiden. gietetteelps you look, fefeelbebeour best. gillette. the best a man can get. ♪ shdoes. obouy they do. ♪ >>> welcome back to "h"haralall. "the new y yk k tis" reports at former vice presidedenticick cheney ordered the c cia t withhold inforormaonon aut a countertererrori p pgram from coreressand now that some democrats want to see sosome democrats want to o e e so vestigation of that intoto the natutu o of is program, what it s s actly, and why cheney y ke congressional leadererini

"t new york times" reporor that former vivicereredent dick chey ordered t theia too withhoholdnfnfmation abbouaa counterterrorism program from congressss, dd now that some mocrats want to see somee ininveigigatn of that intoo th narere of t tisis prograram,hahi was exexacy,y,nd w why cheheyy t congressional leleads s inhe da. so whatxaxaly was thisissecret counterterrorism progrgramndnd w it illllalal to keeeep it fromo congress? david corn is the washingtoton bureau chief for m mheher nes gagane and aololnist foror cg politics and nnis an ininststigive reporter and th author o oththe book "e one percent doctrine." ron, you are the expert.. what was cheneyy up t here exactly? wh did he authorizizend whatt did he keeppececret fromom t coreress >> this isishehe ely daysafafr 9/.. the cia was feeling it ndedeto bud d alst a pamilitary papality to match up with this vast network,,this weweb, this mamaix that was buildinginin tetermof commumunititionand fifincncia rveillance. k know a lot aboutt that. thth view was t ttt essentially cia would sort of t al qaeae ap opoperives, and they would l

the front storyn "thehe "new yo times"" is that former vice presidenen d dick chey k kept ngress in the dark, h his orde, to keep congress in ththe darkrkbout a cia progm. it's's a program that cia direcr pin eta has now shut d downnd briefed congressssboutit. what's your reaeaction tooit? >> i am not onhe intelligence committee. i don't knknow what the detetaif thth are and the vicice prident, ink, should obvioususly be heard from iff allegations are levelled i in his rection. clearly, the replicans did not sign a lter apparenently that was written alleginin this, so think it's f frankly t early for us to reach a nclusion. >>t doesn't a appear as if a lines were crossed in y your judgnt? >> i d d't kno because, again, a a lot of ts is anonymous soces and this is -- if i know washington,his is the beginning of a pretty involold and detaileled story, andnd i d have enough information, b b think lot more is to o come on this >> shouldd there b an instigation, do you thinink? >> ion't know if -- first of l, i would like t to kw the facts of t case before therere should be,, quote, an vesti