. >> that will have in our discussion with house majority whip james clyburn. we will be back with our reporters. mike soraghan and ed epstein, is this health care debate democrat versus democrat? >> i said that the republicans role is to play spoiler. it indicates that there are no republicans that they can pick off any considerable number. the democratic differences are so great. and some meaningful tort why did it -- why it is hard to pass this bill. >> the republicans are out there as, not as naysayers, but their view is completely different than the democrats. the democrats say that they want a bipartisan approach, especially in the senate, where the 160 votes. i think it is not really practical because their views about the basic nature of the government's role in health care remains different than the democrats. the democrats have to cobble this together on their on. and it is the president's number one priority. how can they let him fail. they did this before under bill clinton. bill clinton wrote his own plan and it never got even to first base in cong

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our guest represents james clyburn of south carolina. we're going to change topics right now with ryan king. he's with an organization known as the sentencing project. and for those who may not know what is it? guest: we're an annan-profit research advocacy program working on criminal justice issues. host: and you just put ow a new report looking at who gets life sentences in the united states. what's the genesis of this report? guest: well, we have been very interested in understanding the use of life sentences. the bureau of statistics collects a lot of this data and had not collected it recently. we had known there's been a rise in the use of people being sentenced to life, even more importantly, people being sentenced to life without the option of parole. as there's greater discussion at the state and federal level about the size of the prison population, the amount of correctional budgets being dedicated to incarceration, we felt it was critically important to get a graph of the number of people serving these sentence and discuss t

we heard off-camera from the number three democrat in the house, james clyburn, he is the whip, the vote should be prepared to postpone their recess or maybe even cancel it if, you know, they are having issues getting -- getting towards a vote before going away. >> okay, brianna, if the progress is slowed in the house, it's even moving more slowly in the senate. again, we just heard from the chair of the finance committee, max baucus, suggesting there's a whole -- there are a lot of steps that have to happen here before we can get something that we can begin to either mark up. it looks like a vote before september is unlikely, doesn't it? >> reporter: it is looking that way, especially in the senate, tony. and when you listen to max baucus talking there -- >> yeah. >> reporter: -- you heard dana bash questioning him, i had to chuckle to myself, max baucus said we are going to get there fairly soon, and when she pressed him on what fairly soon meant, he said he wasn't going to define it in the way she wanted him to. we heard from senator dick durbin, and he is the vote counter in the sena

on "newsmakers" this week, james clyburn gave his thoughts on the arrested at harvard professor. >> he can be no more or less of what our experiences have a blessed to be. i think the police officer in this was responding to a call. the question to me was, if this was a neighbor calling, what was a neighbor's role at all of this? did the police officer take into account that the neighbor may have overreacted? there are so many variables and all of this that i think nobody is indicting the police department in cambridge. certainly, the police officer has a record that seems to be admirable. i have watched him on the tv, and he seems to be a good guy. i think i am a pretty good guy. there have been times when i have overreacted. that is human nature. >> you can see the entire interview on "newsmakers." sunday at 10:00 a.m. at 6:00 p.m. eastern. >> the house returns monday at 12:30 eastern for morning hours speeches and business at 2:00. the measure calls for $636 billion including $128 billion for war operations in iraq and afghanistan. it is the last spending measure that needs to be co

host: more on the develop pts in the house on welcome with james clyburn on "newsmaker," hairing at 1000 eastern time this morning. republican of georgia, your reaction? guest: regular order is what we use in house to describe a normal process. the bill is introduced in committee and has an opportunity for changing or perfecting in committee and thing going to the flor of the house an having the opportunity for amendments there. mr. clyburn speaks positively about that. but what we've seen oftentimes is that the speaker will bring a bill to the floor without going through that process and push it through or ram it through. we don't believe that's the best thing to do for any piece of legislation and certainly not for a piece of legislation that is this important and this vital to all americans. host: angie is joining us from california. republican line. good morning. caller: i just wanted to say that we really need to take our time on this health plan. betsy mckay, she's a patient -- she's read the whole thing. we're trying to push this thing through without reading it. she cites that

. >> joining us now is democratic congressman from south carolina, james dli burn clyburn. having me. good to see you. >> my pleasure. what is on the agenda besides health care? seems that's all we've been talking about recently, but certainly as the president has always said, you got to be able to do more than one thing at a time. is congress seriously considering any other significant initiatives or is health care literally dominating all the way through? >> no, no. absolutely. we have three other appropriation bills we're working on. we hope to get the transportation done this week and labor -- as in next week, we hope to do defense. so we do have those three appropriations bills. and, also, on tomorrow, we plan to do a statutory pay go bill. we need to do that, even before we can do health kair. so we are working on more than one front. in fact, working on more than two. so if you look at the appropriations committee doing its work, you look at the rest of us trying to get the statutory pay go done and energy commerce, still working on health care. so we are on differen

achieve final passage the democrats' chief nose counter, jim clyburn of south carolina replied "i don't know if it helps or not. " bret: james rosen live on the hill. president obama is hailing the house compromise. he said "i'm especially grateful that so many members including some blue dogs on the energy and come merce committee are working so hard to find common ground. those efforts are constructive in strengthening this legislation and bringing down its costs. " one of the elements in the house compromise calls for the availability of state-based cooperatives as an alternative to the so-called public option, government-provided health insurance. white house correspondent wendell goler reports on the potential of co-ops. >> at a town hall meeting in raleigh, north carolina, president obama addressed what is arguably the second greatest concern about healthcare reform outside of costs. >> we've got to overcome the understandable skepticism that somehow washington can never get anything right. i mean, that's the biggest challenge we have right now. his goal is health insurance for people who can't afford it, or who the co