. >> that's right, but i d the same thing with e medicare modernizion act six years ago, a $400 billion big bill, prescription drugsnd i refused to use the0-vote threshold. i' just comment quick. think the house will write the bill, pa the bill for sur i think it will be a bad bill. rose: bad bill because it will havehat? >> becauset won't slow the grow of cost over time. basicall howard, this is where we disagre he thinks th government cos in and squeezes and controls it and i believe fundamentally that markets ll work if we ha better data,ore transparency, more accountability. knowing wh you're getting when you're going to see a docr, which people don't kw, and u're using some ofour money to buy it. and that'she difference, i thk, mainly between us. >> rose: and you believe public option is necessy in order to make insurance companies more coetitive? >> thensurance mpanies are terrible to the people who get their insunce policies, many of them. not all of them. if you worfor i.b.m. or microsoft, you've got great insurance policy. it is a little tough on i.b.m. and microsoft beuse the