first up tonight, my conversation with oscar-winning actor timothy hutton. he became a hollywood actress -- be honest actor in hollywood to win an oscar for his role in the "ordinary people." his tea and tea show, "leverage ," is now on the air. also, my conversation with artist maxwell. his latest cd is "black summer's night." timothy hutton and maxwell, coming up right now. >> there are so many things that wal-mart is looking forward to doing, like helping people live better. but mostly, we're helping build stronger communities and relationships. with your help, the best is yet to come. >> nationwide insurance proudly supports "tavis smiley." tavis and nationwide, working together to improve financial literacy and the economic empowerment that comes with it. >> ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. [captioning made possible by kcet public television] tavis: pleased to welcome timothy hutton to this program. he has starred in so many notable projects over the years, including "ordinary p

hutton?>> the use of award fees is a unilateral situation with the government where the government tries to incentivize certain areas. the contractor may come back and say, i have more information that may make you think differently about the valuation. but it is a government decision. >> would there be something that would be too radical by saying that we're not 22 anymore award fees contracting? >> my instinct is that there are situations where they do apply and they do apply when implementing correctly to protect the government's interests. >> will you give me an example? >> something that doesn't relieve research focus -- it would be 100%. if you focus it this way, you might pay 85% and put a piece at risk so that the current producer that if the contractor underperforms, -- so that, if the contractor at underperforms, then use 85 percent, not one hon%. -- not 100%. i think you want to minimize the use of these and apply them only two situations where you cannot assign the objectives up f

hutton? >> the use of award fees is a unilateral situation with the government where the government tries to incentivize certain areas. the contractor may come back and say, i have more information that may make you think differently about the valuation. but it is a government decision. >> would there be something that would be too radical by saying that we're not 22 anymore award fees contracting? >> my instinct is that there are situations where they do apply and they do apply when implementing correctly to protect the government's interests. >> will you give me an example? >> something that doesn't relieve research focus -- it would be 100%. if you focus it this way, you might pay 85% and put a piece at risk so that the current producer that if the contractor underperforms, -- so that, if the contractor at underperforms, then use 85 percent, not one hon%. -- not 100%. i think you want to minimize the use of these and apply them only two situations where you cannot assign the objectives up

a bunch of for people would say, hey, ivy, i hear timothy hutton is playing your dad a movie. >> he wascurrent at the time heart throb. >> in their trying to persuade. he said if it was done, and if they had given the russians a bomb, i would be proud of that. i would not have been angry about that. i'm not necessarily saying that is my view, but there is of you out there, and it has been expressed in a number of different places. their is a man named theodore dore alton hall it turned up in the fbi documents. a science scientists. it turned out he, at the age of 19, agreed to pass atomic secrets to the soviets and succesfully did. he went around to his neighbors . had become friends with and said this is going to come out. you may not want to be my friends anymore. and one guy said maybe you're the reason i'm here. so there is that view. people can debate and discuss. in the novel he decided to put that two out there. it life imitates art. it is fascinating. one of the reasons i absolutely love the novel despite the fact that there are real liberties taken with the historical record, s

he was a follower of james hutton. in a broader sense, charles, his grandson followed in this huttonian tradition. now, his own father practiced medicine, as had his grandfather. it was a medical family. and his own father didn't publish terribly much, although he was a member of the royal society of london but he did permit his sons the run of the house and that included setting up their own chemistry laboratory in the greenhouse in the back and he didn't let them do it inside and, of course, they were all sort of family friends of joseph priestly and company so doing chemistry at the time make making all the gases so we can assume there were a certain number of explosions. one thing that sort of fell out unexpectedly for me for my study was that darwin was more of a chemist than i had realized. he knew how to do a lot of reactions and he recognized a lot of substances. this was very useful as he became a geologist. now, once he finished his arts degree at cambridge, he was not quite ready to settle down. and like man

hutton. >> larry: has she called? >> she's in touch very, very much.ady to present the facts or whatever they're going to be, they're going to call her, then they're going to come to the house. >> larry: didn't you get a family report, autopsy? for the family only? >> i don't think so. >> larry: no? you haven't seen an autopsy? >> no, i have not seen one. >> larry: do you fear -- what about the foul play that your sister lashes toya, said, your father hinted at? do you think there's foul play defined by doctors doing wrong? >> larry, it's hard to say because there's so much being said and i think to rush to judgment would be the wrong thing to do or say. i think there's an ongoing investigation and to say these things is not -- without knowing the facts. if it ends up to foul play, then that will be dealt with accordingly. at the same time, we really don't know. we will know and we will find out. >> larry: did you know or have knowledge of michael being addicted to anything? >> no. >> larry: never discussed it? >> never. i've never seen him act abnorma

you are chief -- were you chief economist at ef hutton?yes, in the early '80s. >> before you had any of this worldly experience. and you were really good back then. >> yes, i was only 12 at the time. >> you were only 12 at the time. also with us is steve liesman in the wilderness of maine at the special summit bringing together the top economist forecasters. i guess bob is not one of the top ones. he has more of our informal survey. did you get an invite, bob? >> steve, it is important for you to realize that i'm wearing my club tie because i fish quite a bit, fly fish in pennsylvania so i'm very hurt about this. >> reporter: bob, i thought you were invited. i thought you couldn't make it. >> but do you write -- >> forest lake club, and this is where you really go to fly fish. >> do you write a blog and and then you can take it back a month later? >> i think the great thing is the administration didn't listen to krugmen and they nationalized the banking system without nationalizing the banking system. you didn't listen to the right wing t

from family and friends for the release of two of manson's followers, susan atkins and leslie van hutton she asked me to let her baby live. >> what did you say to her? >> i told her i didn't have any mercy for her. >> she has cancer and is asking to be released so she can die in hospice. >> the next night she was stabbing rose marie. she -- >> i took away all that life. >> this man is arguing for van how then's release. >> she went in a complete lunatic and came out, if she ever does, an incredibly mature woman. >> reporter: but a retired prosecutor whose job it was to argue against the murderers' release at 60 parole hearings once again made that same argument to us. >> do they deserve to be outside in normal society? not for what they did, no. never. >> it was such a news filled summer in '69. you had the lunar landing, the manson murder, the weekend after that the woodstock festival. that brought an end to that hippie era of peace and love. >> so many things come from that, the words helter skelter in the victims' blood. i still get chills with i see those words and see old footage of

hutton, and we're glad he did.he gamut. actually, you could describe both the type of hotels that preferred is involved with and the geographic -- you're all over the entire world, not all  luxury. how many hotels and what is the breakdown? >> we have approximately 700 hotels as of today. spread out throughout the world we probably -- we would have more in north america. they run the gamut from the very deluxe, which we call preferred hotels and resorts and our preferred boutique which is smaller, under 100 rooms, but very luxurious hotels. we have a brand called summit, which is 4, 4 1/2 star and sterling, the 4-star brand. we have what's called historic hotels of america, which is -- they have to have history but they can be from the waldorf astoria to a little hotel in tennessee. >> wow. so you go from five stars at the top and -- do you have three stars? >> well, our sterling brand would be high three, four. stars are hard to -- we have trouble totally defining but we would not have any roadside inn. i woul

john hutton. he began his career in gao in 1878? [laughter] is that a typo here?has worked in projects in iraq and afghanistan. again, our thanks to both of you for your work and your expertise, and i will ask that you began curia of your entire statement will be a part of the record. >> thank you for the opportunity to discuss award fee contacting and strategies to eliminate waste and extract maximum value from these contracts. i would like to insert my statement into the record. >> to have our permission. >> thank you. i was confirmed last month as the deputy director for management at omb. it is my responsibility to help lead efforts in performance, making sure that taxpayer dollars are being used effectively and efficiently. this is especially critical during these difficult economic times. i believe this can play an important role in driving down costs. as demonstrated by the president's march 4 memorandum on government contracts thing, the administration is committed to creating such a system, which is currently accounting for more than $5 billion in annual