what i like to call the iroquois, french, war butch, those doing the attack. nine say the iroquois, 3 say the elected officials. kathleen and job you say it's the wild people. the rush limbaughs and the birthers and nare the real people. >> the squeaky wheel gets the grease and the wild people, the iroquois have all the power and they're the ones who have the forum and the audience. chris:ooking ahead, a four-year term or an eight-year presidency, will the attack be from the fringe or from the people like mitch mcconnell, leaders on capitol mill? >> i only look 3 1/2 years ahead because i don't know after 2012 but kathleen is right. chris: so rush limbaugh will continue to be the big -- >> the g.o.p. is is this th -- their base is what -- the appeal to that base is what this whole thing is about. we've been talking about in terms. race based stuff and birther stuff, it is an increasingly old men and southerners. that is what the republican party is. and that dictates their politics. chris: trish. >> it's a huge problem for them. they need to shift and not have