mr. bush doesn't know what is in the mind of cuban-american. how can i get you to vote for me in 2004? his bolster some told him tighten the embargo and he did. in 2008, mr. obama's pollsters every bit as competent told him relax the embargo. and obviously ochered is giving in to the cuban-american community, the pollsters discovered that they were unhappy about being able to visit their families and send their family money and you can see when you leave -- when you go to leave havana you go through immigration and customs and into a waiting room before the plane before you go to board the plane and sit there and it is a real baby about as big as this room and there are people that are crying, devastated because with the bush tightening they knew they were seeking their mother for the last time. their mother was old. they can't go back for three years. if there is a funeral no extenuating circumstances will let you go back. and i think they -- that is what controlled u.s. policy until recent. now the cuban-american community is all over the pla

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during the first week of that vacation august 6, 2001, mr. bush was handed the infamous pdb, bin laden determined to strike in u.s. although, to be fair mr. bush did practice constraint or restraint on his vacation in 2005. he cut short that trip by two days as new orleans drowned. it was the 2002 break at kennebunkport that defined his concept of a presidential vacation. >> i call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killings. thank you. now watch this drive. >> and later he gave up golf to honor the dead veterans. worse, tom delay's health care town hall from the '80s where he is disrupted by people in wheelchairs. great story except it happened in texas while he was in washington. >>> and next, so desperate is this woman to stop reform she has gone so far as to insist the government has no right to tell her what to do with her body. isn't that the language of -- >>> and when rachel joins you, anthony weiner, his response to steny hoyer going soft on the public option. (announcer) this is nine generations of the wor

mr. bush hasn't charmed biography, is full of himself -- mr. bush has a charmed biography, and if sulis full of himself. >> i would say that the facts is that you cannot think of more different people. nixon was one of the poorest financially, if not the poorest. he had a terrible young adult place. he overcame that to become president of the united states and come back from various defeats. to throw it all away is a very gripping story. bush is a product of privilege. he did have good connections. he came from one of the most famous, well-connected american families. i think that reflected itself in the presidency. if there was not a lot of self examination. whereas nixon just listen to the tapes. there could not be more different personalities. i find nixon's personality more interesting than i do the bush personality. >> when i talk with you like this i see a different frank rich then when i read to. -- than when i read you. do you get angry? >> i really do not get angry actually. i am not invested that way in politics. i do like to write stu

you and the government tried to black list those who criticized mr. bushnd the administration sent us instructions on what questions to ask in interviews of bush critics and mr. mccain said i should be in a padded room and mr. rumsfeld called anybody who disagreed with his policies the equivalent of nazi sympathizers. mob would have been a compliment. and you just called this president a racist and a fascist. lonesome roads beck, today's worst person in the world. >>> five days after president obama's so-called kenyan birth certificate was unmasked as an obvious fake, four days after it was shown to be the rip-off of a certificate for some surprised man in australia named bombford and one day after an anonymous blogger took credit for the fake telling the birthers they had been punked world net daily conducted its own exclusive investigation and concluded in our number one story that the kenyan birth certificate, quote, is probably not authentic. the expose actually includes the posting of the anonymous blogger beginning with the kenyan birth certificate h

you and the government tried to black list those who criticized mr. bushdministration sent us instructions on what questions to ask in interviews of bush critics and mr. mccain said i should be in a padded room and mr. rumsfeld called anybody who disagreed with his policies the equivalent of nazi sympathizers. mob would have been a compliment. and you just called this president a racist and a fascist. lonesome roads beck, today's worst person in the world. mom was diagnosed with moderate alzheimer's. it was tough news to hear. everything changed. i didn't know what to do. right about then, our doctor mentioned the exelon patch. he said it releases medicine continuously for 24 hours. he said it could help with her cognition which includes things like memory, reasoning, communicating and understanding. (announcer) the most common side effects of exelon patch are nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. the likelihood and severity of these side effects may increase as the dose increases. patients may experience loss of appetite or weight. patients who weighess than 110

at that event we were at together, mrs. bushhat she was prim. she said, i don't know what that means. i think it means librarian. what is so interesting about it if she was the only first lady in history who went to the white house briefing room, grabbed the microphone herself, and used it to call for the overthrow of the burmese government. she was not exactly shy and retiring. but we develop these myths about first ladies that we really have about all of them, release starting, as pat said, with martha washington. i think it was the cap. that did hurt the service. i stayed perennial freest -- i state perennially furious with mount vernon of this, george washington's mount vernon. [applause] i mean, yeah, i bet he was taking care of all the foodstuffs. [laughter] at any rate, she of course, is succeeded by the very feisty and somewhat problematic abigail adams. i must say, pat talked about writing about women, we're very lucky with abigail adams, like martha washington, because we have her letters, and we have thousands and tho

mr. bush gave us $1.3 trillion in tax cuts. 8 roo -- $800 billion in a medicare -- >> this deficit is so big as a result of the decisions made over the past few months. >> eight months of obama is bigger than eight years of bush? bush gave a lot in eight months. >> let paul finish his thought. >> mr. bush gave us three major drivers of the deficit. his tax cuts. which were $1.3 trillion. they continue to compound. second, a medicare prescription entitlement, the only entitlement in american history without a pay for into it. a war in iraq that he never once paid for. that could be $2 trillion. that's what's driving the deficit. >> the bush tax cuts expire in 2010 for better or worse. the war in iraq is winding down. these commitments made since january 20th, they are new, big and ongoing. and had they worked they might have made sense but they are not working. the united states is going to be slowest out biggest of the recession with the biggest stimulus package. >> we have to leave it there.

confronted the president of the united states, obama, on that, and i think what he's saying is if mr. bush wants to go out there and, you know, let history be the judge, i'm not going to do that. i'm going to make the case for what i said and did because i believe it was right and i believe it is still the right thing to do in the interests of the national security, and truth be told, cheney has -- if you talk national security, i think dick cheney still has great credibility with tens of millions of americans on that issue. >> all right. i think i smell book hype here. i'm not -- i have a feeling there's going to be less than we want in this book. thank you, tom defrank. thank you, pat buchanan. >>> up next, did secretary of state hillary clinton imply jeb bush helped steer the 2000 election at a town hall meeting in nigeria? should hillary put politics aside as secretary of state? that's in "the politics fix." this is "hardball" only on msnbc. >>> coming up, will the rage of town hall meetings hurt democrats or backfire on republicans? is there a political price to pay? when "hardball" r

when mr. bush sd that i would invite democracy into iraq, i said i wish you could do. every population has its own nature culture, cuoms and histy. you can not comend make som carbon cop of each populati as that of the american ople. even the country and thepeoples in this region are differt. >> charlie: mimpression was you re never comfortable with thbush administratio >> that's why iid not visit the united states nce the year 2004. i didn't visit the united states since 04. the are cerin rumors that i amot visiting america or i was no visiting ameri because of ises related to political. >> charlie: do you think e bush admistration was right to promote mocracy in the regn in the way that it did. >> n look, we do n acct pressures in politics or in theory, domestic politicsrom any administration wit respect to allovernments. we d not aept pssures -- form haso be me grown. an it is what the people demand. this is one issue. but to accept pressure from an administration or another, this pressure mig be againsthe inrest of the peoe. responded to the demands o the people. >

if you look at the polling numbers where mr. bush was, where mr. clinton was they are about the same after sex months. i'm not particularly concerned about it. i think -- i'm surprised at 42. everything i have seen is saying mid-50s. >> this is just this one poll. >> okay. and i think it is natural to expect that a president comes back to a normal level from the stratosphere. >> conservatives combing home. >> i would hire you any day. that is a heck of a job to defend barack obama. >> what you have here is president obama has been beat up with how he is handling legislation as president and i think strategically the biggest mistake he's made is he allowed the congress write his legislation opposed to submitting his own legislation and having congress tinker with it. people have a visceral negative reaction to the democratic congress and now you are seeing those reflect in the poll numbers. >> again, if we take a step and try not to be partisan republican democrats, hard not to be. the president hasn't lost a single thing in congress since he's been

when mr. bush said that i would invite democracy into iraq, i said i wish you could do. every population has its own nature, culture, customs and history. you can not come and make some carbon copy of each population as that of the american people. even the country and the peoples in this region are different. >> charlie: my impression was you were never comfortable with the bush administration. >> that's why i did not visit the united states since the year 2004. i didn't visit the united states since 04. there are certain rumors that i am not visiting america or i was not visiting america because of issues related to political. >> charlie: do you think the bush administration was right to promote democracy in the region in the way that it did. >> no. look, we do not accept pressures in politics or in theory, domestic politics from any administration with respect to all governments. we do not accept pressures -- reform has to be home grown. and it is what the people demand. this is one issue. but to accept pressure from an administration or another, this pressure might b

has to lie with mr. bush. has to lie with mr. gonzalez. i i'm not for prosecuting them. the sort of thing that nancy pelosi asked for. a truth and reconciliation commission. >> mary worked in south africa. would a truth and reconciliation commission work here? >> have at it. the notion of this truth and reconciliation, there's nothing to hide except from the terrorists who now know everything we're doing to thwart their activities. >> mary matalin, paul begala, thank you. well, the conversation continues online. let us know what you think. join the live chat now under way at ac360.com. >>> up next, what randy kaye's learning about not one, not two, but seven doctors now named in the michael jackson homicide investigation. later, anti-health reform anger at a congressman's town hall directed at a big-name guest, howard dean. >> howard dean is a baby killer! he's a baby killer! tom. now, i know the catering business but when i walked in here i wasn't sure what i needed. i'm not sure what i need. tom showed me how to use mifi to get my whole team working online, on location

in his 60's he's still quite in shape as is mrs. bush. more with laura bush, including her thoughts on women in higher office. how important is it to you to see a woman as vice president or president? >> well, i would love to see that in my lifetime. you know, i hope that's what we see and i hope it's a republican woman. gretchen: she got that in. of course, that would be her wish. we were discussing how pivotal it was in the last election cycle where you had hillary clinton and sarah palin on both sides. peter: very smart woman. she would never run. steve: rather in an being here in the air-conditioned studio, out in the sub. peter: out in goten. gretchen: it was a little windy and rainy but mrs. bush faired so much better. thank you so much for doing that. steve: how is the federal government planning to pay for a massive health care overhaul? by taxing the rich, of course. but what is wrong with success? why putting pressure on the wealthy could spell the end of the american dream. we're going to talk about that. peter: and instead of

mr. bush's wiretapping? best persons in the world. dateline, new jersey, number three best cliche come to life. john of pennsylvania robbing the pnc bank there. released from prison, incarterated for robbing a bank, returning to the scene of the crime. >>> and total absence of a sense of humor, ksl radio and tv news. salt lake tribune columnist casey joan wrote a farcical column on kids. a satirical suggestion you can have two children but a third would require you to buy accident insurance. on its website, they put up a story that took the editorial seriously and refuted it quoting an expert who said he felt sorry the tribune thought of his children as accidents, there are so many benefits for having a husband, wife, children and that the tribune conclusions were hogwash. well, they were. they were a gag. incidentally, i'm not sure the kl response was a gag, too, it's byline is, by mary richards. oh, mr. grant! >> and boulder, colorado, best revenge. dr. warren hearn, the last physician to openly provide late-term abortions in the co

i think mr. bush needs to be gone f -- used to be gone for weeks. his ranch i don't think the average american owns the ache rage of ranches, of property the bushes had. how we got to his friend -- the man going to martha's vineyard for week, maybe he needs to take off a week and rest. >> did he come here just because he can be surrounded by friends and get away from the ak krom moan why yous debate which is clearly irritating him and it's been relatively painful in terms of his popularity and approval, reverend. >> i think that the hope of the conservatives -- i saw quite the opposite. i saw a president that went out various regions of the country had town hall meetings and talked to the citizens. i didn't see i spent the past three weeks going to the public explaining it engaging it going on-line he was going on talk back radio shows so here's someone that gave the american public before he went on vacation. i think to say he's going there annoyed and defeated would be to act like the last three weeks of all of these town hall meetings and on-line

mr. bush's presidential vacations from the beginning. he said in 2001 -- sean: i wondered if he shared those thoughts with president obama. hear discussed this ridiculous double standard, the author of "catastrophe" dick morris. this is the land of the liberals, martha's vineyard. >> in 1993 and 1994 bill clinton took vacations in martha's vineyard. i told him going into the summer of '95, cut it out. the photographs of you and starlet's are not doing you any good. you look like a beverly hillbilly. he laughed. they want you to go to the rockies in camping on vacation. i tested each activity. there is biking, which he could do, golfing he could do. the real reason he hated it was that he had to live in this three-person tent with chelsea. sean: that is not going to work. every president deserves a vacation. as he goes on at this vacation, and things could not be worse for him. the numbers are now a 45%. ha rasmussen, -14 on the presidential index rating. patterson is getting creamed as democratic governor of new york. corzine is in troub

mr. bush has a charming biography, is full of himself and his four to blindly by self righteousness to even fleetingly recognize the havoc he's inflicted at home and abroad. although historians may judge in the worst president and nixon, at the personal level his is not a grand experience failure. it would be a waste of franklin jealous talent to play george w. bush, though not necessarily match him, hey. >>another actor. >> nixon was probably one of the poorest of modern presidents. he really came from nothing. he had a terrible childhood and young adult life. he overcame that to become president of the united states and then through the hallway. it is a very gripping story. bush was a child of privilege. he was the product of legacy and missions to places like andover, yale and harvard. he came from one of the most famous, well-connected american families and i think that reflected in his presidency. nixon, just listening to the tapes, it is shakespearean because at the time he is debating h

he controls mr. bush. >> the final page you have a self portrait. have you done many of those? >> a few. usually trying to balance the idea that if i made fun of your notes what do you think i'm going to say about mine. and there is for people to say wow. >> when did you first get interested in drawing cartoons? >> i think around ten or 11. i always true, scribbled and so on, but it began to coalesce into a thing, a form because i became aware of reading things, comics in the newspapers and so on. >> what was your first paid job as an artist? >> to decorate a window. a company that had artists produced strangely illustrative kinds of humor, figures doing strange things but always relative to a window display. and each one would bring a certain income. >> how about your first political art? can you remember why you did first? >> that is in my mind more than anything else. i come out with a very left wing home and family, and there were always pamphlets with illustrations of huge, handsome, powerful looking workers, versus fact all of capitalists and somehow the workers always wo

john dean on the verification from the official in the bush administration that mr. bush used fear of terrorism for political gain. which is itself terrorism. >>> a new nexus, the cia assassination team, the gang that couldn't shoot al qaeda straight. it was supposed to be outsourced to blackwater. worse, glen beck suspended for calling the president a racist? >>> and worse atsp

administration and completed by a career service employee within the department, not a political appointee of mr. busht obama. not long after the reports released, janet napolitano apologized for any unintended offense. >> i'm not running away from it. this was an an assessment, not an accusation. >> d.h.s. issued a threat assessment on so-called left wing extremist groups earlier this year, but in that report, the agency made cheer it relied on tell intelligence reporting from groft agencies an highly reliable field agents. bret: the justice department today gave back $2.4 million to mexico, money seized during an investigation into oil smuggled out of that country and purchased here in the u.s. mexican president felipe calderon says drug cartels have branched out and are behind much of the oil theft. oil legally traded today felled by more than $1 a barrel, september crude lost $1.15 on the new york mercantile exchange settling in at $64.45 a barrel. gasoline dropped 2/10's of a penny, averaging $2.64 a gallon. so is the obama administration preparing to give away some of your privacy rights? we rep

mrs. bush became a sponsor of the summer -- when she was first lady of taxes.o not mess with tim mcgraw, even if you are a fan. you could get booted from one of his concert. he had a problem with a fan at a recent show, and he was not shy about it. he had them and toss. -- had the man tossed. [ beep] you do not treat a woman like that. get out of here. greta: no word exactly on why he had a man objected, but he thought the man was routed to a woman and the crowd. update -- the m&a was -- the man was rude to a woman in the crowd. a truck driver crashed into a swimming pool while he was texting on one telephone, talking on another, and trying to drive. i guess he could not get the internet in the car to complete the trifecta. police confiscated but telephones. the driver was charged with reckless driving. gee, you think? finally, no matter how many times you have seen it, it is always amazing, at the space shuttle endeavour touching down at the kennedy space center in florida. the crew was finishing up the 16-day trip to the international space station. there you

will he have to 'fess up he is in charge for the four years and then mr. bush gave up on him for some reason? >> well, i don't think that even if he does say that he was running the white house for all practical purposes in the first term which i think is pretty true, that he saved the world. he left the world under much rougher shape as a result of his policies. he has become something of the poster boy in his policies for recruiting terrorism leaving us in much worse condition than before 9/11. >> normally central players won't admit their influence in excessive policy and the list is extraordinary that they go through in success. wiretaps, torture. that, too, is apparently going to be turn order its head in this because cheney has, what no apology and believes nothing is necessary and no explanation is necessary beyond this absolute certitude that he and he alone knows the consequences of not breaking laws? >> it is going to be very interesting to see how he handles this. had is all about a self-confessed war criminal. and i don't think that at this point gi

mr. bush's first secretary of homeland security admits ashcroft and rumsfeld pressured him to raise the threat level the day before the 2004 election. to have been right about this is about as unpleasant a feeling as those reporters were right that the world series was fixed that one year or bernie madoff was a ponzi artist. (announcer) if you think all batteries are the same, consider this: when a tornado tore through holly, colorado, air life denver took to the air... their night-vision goggles keeping them safe on a perilous flight... and powering those precision goggles--- is the only battery air life trusts: duracell. trusted everywhere. look for new duracell ultra advanced now with even more power to protect. >>> the bush administration used terrorism to influence elections. when i said it here we called it the nexus of politics in terror. when his first homeland secretary said it he called his book. you're watching "countdown" on msnbc. lo! i don't know anything about computers and my daughter is going to college, so she needs one. - can you help me? - ( shouting ) - yes, you. - our lin

obama, president and mrs. bush, president clinton and secretary clinton, president carter and mrs.. biden. all of us in church today dear friends of ted. and especially you, vicki, caroline, kara, teddy, patrick, your mother joan. a sister everyone in the world would love to have in you, jean, with your devotion. dr. larry and a great team of doctors and nurses. and so many helpers at hyannis port these last weeks and months. and most especially the youngest of ted's gang, gracie and max, kiley and teddy. in the catholic tradition, the mass of christian burial weaves together memory and hope. the worship of the church locates us precisely between a past we referentially remember and a future in which we firmly believe. we gather today as a community drawn from across the nation to entrust the life of senator edward kennedy into the hands of god and to provide you consolation and support. we bring with us treasured memories of ted kennedy. memories not only of a national leader and a master legislator but of a beloved husband, a great father, a terrific grandfather, a sweet uncle, a

bill: mr. bushostly vacationed at his primary residence in crawford, texas, and i don't know how much his mortgage payments are. wise up. jill wolf, colorado. bill: well, the taxpayers only pick up security and travel costs, jill. mr. obama pays the leisure part. bill: the reason we go after people sometimes is because of at buvese power. if a media person is being dishonest in a presentation it's my job to point that out. our analysis is not about me. i'm simply a lightning rod and various media show that when they take us on. bill: well, today is your lucky day, amigo. bill: well, that is very generous, flora, so i'm sending you an american patriot shirt for boeing so nice to our military guys. bill: well, it's a start, donna. how about our web site -- "talking points memo" each evening if you come up late. punch it up and there it is. and please email us with pithy comments from anywhere in the world. name and town, name and town, name and town if you wish to opine. and please when writing to the

cheney told his biographer he has strong feelings about what happened and now that he and mr. bush left office, he does not see why he should not express those views. the memoir is due out in 2011. >>> secretary of state hillary rodham clinton is winding up her trip to africa. she is in cape verde tonight. much of the day in liberia. the u.s. has close tie was liberia. it was established in 1847 by freed american slaves. today clinton m with president ellen johnson surleaf. the leader is the only elected woman head of state in africa. clinton says she brought warm regards from president obama and clinton's tour of africa is aimed at promoting development and democracy on the continent. >>> the american journalist detained in north korea are sending a message to everyone that supported them tonight. laura li ingling worked and sen to 12 years of hard labor. they spent five months in detention and freed last week. former president clinton negotiated that release. the journalists thanked everyone who supported them with letters and prayers. >> to all of the people who supported euna a

the idea is economic recovery, they, themselves, approved more than a trillion in tax cuts under mr. bushh people. >> well, all of this is in the rem of theology. in their world view government spending cannot stimulate the economy. the rnc chairman michael steele has said that. their politicians have said that over and over. they think the only thing that works aside from low interest rates is tax cuts. they went down on record opposing the stimulus package. not a single republican voted for it. so they are heavily invested in its failure. >> there are obviously differences about this cash for clunkers program and how much it is really goosing sales. but car sales are up so if you're the mccain economic advisor what's the strategy to be the guy who tries to block the cash for clunkers program when it seems to possibly be working? >> you know, you pointed out in your intro to this that we've seen something out of detroit almost as rare as a detroit lions win and that is a year over year gain on sales. ford sold more cars in july, '09 than in july, '08. cash for clunkers only kicked in in

mr. bush's first secretary of homeland security admits ashcroft and rumsfeld pressured him to raise the threat level the day before the 2004 election. to have been right about this is about as unpleasant a feeling as those reporters were right that the world series was fixed that one year or bernie madoff was a ponzi artist. just a good paying job. that's why i like this clean energy idea. now that works for our whole family. for the kids, a better environment. for my wife, who commutes, no more gettin' jerked around on gas prices... and for me, well, it wouldn't be so bad if this breadwinner brought home a little more bread. repower america. i hope our senators are listening. >>> the bush administration used terrorism to influence elections. when i said it here we called it the nexus of politics in terror. when his first homeland secretary said it he called his book. you're watching "countdown" on msnbc. >>> manipulating the fear of terrorism for political gain is itself terrorism. and the nexus of politics and terror as employed by the bush administration is now tonight confirmed. in our fou

. >> mr. bush tries to ignore her. ms.an is not giving up then finally the poll and we're going to get, no, she gets a kiss. there's a kiss. >> the president and i enjoy a great relationship. when he and i were back visiting he reached over because he wanted to give me a kiss down at the site and i had pulled back and he said, what? i have experience that throughout my political career being labeled a kook. >> michael steele, you be the man. you be the man. >> i don't think it has been established yet as a fact that global warming is the issue of the day. but there isn't even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon monoxide is a harmful gas. she is committed to her global warming fanaticism to the point where she has said she is just trying to save the planet. we all know that someone did that over 2,000 years ago. they saved the planet. we don't need nancy pelosi to do that. carbon monoxide, mr. speaker, is a natural by product of nature. >> you know what else is a natural product of nature congresswoman? di

isn't he going to have to admit that he was in charge for at least the four years and then mr. bush on him for some reason. >> i don't think even if he does say he was running the white house for all practical purposes in the first term, which i think is true, that he saved the world. in fact, i think he left the world in a much rougher shape in terms of his policies. he's become something of the poster boy in his policies for recruiting terrorism, leaving us in much worse condition than before 9/11. >> normally, central players won't admit their influence in excessive policy and the list is extraordinary when you go throw it in succession, warrantless wiretaps, gitmo, torture. but that, too, is apparently going to be turned on its head in this, because cheney has, what, no apology? he believes nothing is necessary? no explanation is necessary beyond his absolute certitude that he and he alone knows the consequences of not breaking 18 laws? >> it's going to be very interesting to see how he handles this. he is all but a self-confessed war criminal, keith. and i don't think at this p

i think, however, that he -- i don't want to do mr. bushderestimated the -- i think the partisan divide. one of the greatest insults to democracy is the putrid partisanship that refuses to even accept facts. and so as a result, i think the president misunderstood -- or underestimated the fact that there would somebody people in congress who would rather deny him a victory than help the american public. >> so what should he do coming out of the break? if the vote for the public option are not in the senate, should he go down on principle and hold firm or should he make a compromise that you would not like but might be forced to accept? >> well, let me answer it this way -- in 1965, wilbur meals and gerald ford, two members of the house of representatives, developed a compromise on medicare and medicaid. i think that there is the possibility that president can work with some republicans. and i think he works with the ones who are interested in trying to get something accomplished. and i think if he can do that, then we can get this difficult

which they vow to uphold the laws of the constitution and the laws of the hundreds since that time mr. bushillegal wiretapping, suspended the writ of habeas corpus. issued signing statements 700 times saying he's not going to faithfully execute the law, established the white house agency for religious programs, et cetera, et cetera. does this not rise to the standards of lying under oath? >> guest: well, i think they are two different questions. one is in a federal judicial proceeding in front of aeder >> one is a federal judicial proceeding in front of a federal judge you commit perjury which is a very specific felony the other is your interpretation of the constitution. for example, you mentioned the office of religious activity. that's clearly a legal office and i don't think anybody has doubted that you could legally have -- i think it's actually called faith-based activities. i don't know anybody who thinks you can't have that. you can disagree with it as a matter of philosophy but it's not illegal. in terms of the commander in chief ability to set aside rules i would suggest you go ba

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has to lie with mr. bush. has to lie with mr. gonzalez. i'm not for prosecuting them. i think the better of the argument is not the selective releases mr. cheney is asking for but the sort of thing nancy pelosi asked for, the speaker of the house. a truth and reconciliation commission. >> mary worked in south africa. would a truth and reconciliation commission work here? >> have at it. dick cheney has not been for selective anything. he's for laying it all out. the notion of this truth and reconciliation, there's nothing to hide except from the terrorists who now know everything we're doing to thwart their activities. >> got to leave it there. marly matalin, paul greg gabega. thank you. well, the conversation continues online. let us know what you think. join the live chat now under way at ac360.com. i'm about to log on during the commercial break, myself. >>> up next, what randi kaye is learning about not one, not two, but seven doctors now named in the michael yax homicide investigation. later, anti-health reform anger at a congressman's town hall directed at a big-n

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