. >> in fact -- >> supporting what judge rinehart says, what case do you have supporting what judge rinehart says? >> in the second circuit, affirming a decision by a district court saying that i believe a nine-month delay which is far shorter than we're talking about was a violation of due process but, judge -- >> that was an individual claim, wasn't it? >> i think, no, i don't think that it was. >> this is from connecticut? >> there's a district court case from connecticut, yes, and i believe it was a class action if i'm not mistaken. >> so it's not from the second circuit. >> no, it came out of connecticut but it was followed by a second circuit decision also by the same name, of course, and in that case a 10-month average delay was adjutjute judeaddjude indicated- adjudicated to be a violation. they could find their way law to the federal circuit and it's contrary to the conclusion of law in this case because in conclusion of law number eight, the court explicitly found many plaintiff's challenges are used to reach decisions of individual claims. these processes as conceded by the cavc i