. >> good afternoon, i'm howard datsun, director of the schaumburg center for research and black culturei spoiz the reason i'm on the panel is that i did a book a-a few years ago entitled the emergence of african-american culture and, one of the chapter in the book deals th the question of the origins, if you will f what we call ourselves, call black english. and i'll be saying things about that and what its relevance is for this topic today. >> good afternoon, can you hear me? okay. my name is carol lee, also known as safashia mataboui with the school of ecation and social policy at northwestern university and founder and chairman of the board of directors of the betty shabazz charter schools and the concept development center, a school founded in 1972. and is still in operation, and i'm also president of the american educational research association. >> thank you, panelists. some call this period, 2009, the post-racial period and you may agree or not agree with that but i'll ask the panelists from your discline what is the relevance of this panel discussion, talking about black english