it is hosted by the thomas b. fordham institute. a think tank focused on education issues. this last about an hour and a half. >> good afternoon. good afternoon. my name is michael petrilli, one of the vice president here at the thomas b. fordham institute. very excited on a full room on a hot day in washington in august. not everybody goes to martha's vineyard from washington. and so we are glad to have you here. it's going to be a very interesting discussion. it may not be quite as contentious as the health care debates that are taking place around the country. we don't expect there to be anything thrown at him by the way, dc has a very strict gun laws so you have to check, i'm sorry, check those guns at the door and turn those cell phones off. but this is a very important debate that we are having right now with the new education policy world about charter schools, school vouchers and other forms of school choice. for those of you who don't know too much about the thomas before an institute, we are a think tank here in washington, d.c., which covers education policy. we