lani and i became friends.ke a two-year time frame, a year and a half, it might have been eight months. [laughter] we became very good friends and we are still great friends. we are some -- it has still been a great experience for me. she has changed my life. she is my guardian angel. tavis: watch how this works at home. those of you who are married, i asked who should i ask -- those of you are married, you know how this works. i asked who should i ask, but narwhal askedlani to tell that -- now i will ask lani to answer the same question. >> i have something to add pureed [laughter] in 1960 to two -- in 1962 i was doing a lloyd paxton show and she happendt to see me and she was living about -- a living in chicago at the time as she was about nine or 10. >> i was 16 tavis: -- i was 16. tavis: [laughter] >> i was prepared to meet him. i knew what he looked like. tavis: do you recall about that our vision in 1966? >> i recall asking him to drive me home. it [laughter] tavis: that was left out of the story. he was

he told me that he had told lani guinier, that she would be a hero if he withdrew this thing, becauseould be seen as a martyr and he would be vilified. but he was willing to pay that price. he believed it would be more detrimental to the party if they continue this fight. maybe some of the senators will dispute that, but that is the record that the president put down on our tapes. host: robert on the republican line. from new york. caller: thank you for your hard work in detail in history. i have two questions about economics and politics. democrats claim deficit spending through 2010 will carry the economy, the recession. they already want credit for the recovery, but president clinton resisted any blame for the recession in 2001. if deficit spending causes a recovery, with a surplus tend to cause a recession? guest: that is a classic keynesian economics, that in the deficit to help yourself pulled out of a recession, and that is the only time that it is justified. if you begin to remove savings from the system, you can push herself further into recession. we were in a situation wher

iean, lany tony morrissons, langstonughes, barack obamas will w never know because they were somehow intellectually decapitated? their spirit destroyed, sen, eight, nine yearsefore. my answer to t questio is this. e solution ds not -- the solution will never be found in high school itsel because by then these kids are so far behind. yes, you can try through remedial efforts and anything thatorks i will support. m a practical person. but ultately this begins in the early years of school where these kids have received, first of all, no preschool, so they enter school two or three years behind the mainstrm. the little boys especially have learned no social skills, which the lovely pure fake onde-haired children of beverlyly hills learn social skil. they don't learn that. they come into kindergarten rambunctious, discipline problems under the new regime. theyill fail their third-grade test no matter how good the teacher is, and will haveo repeat. they will repeat again probay in eighth grade, seventh grade. they don't have a chanc of surviving. they will probably give up -- typically the