. >> are you thinking of going to nfcc to negotiate for you? or what are you thinking of doing about this? >> caller: right, that's what i'm thinking of. you talked about the nonprofit service that could potentially help. so we're -- what we're thinking about doing is going to them, trying to get them to set out a plan for us so we can cut all of the interest rates that have an end to it. >> what interest rate does this debt carry generally? >> caller: anywhere from about -- somewhere between 15% up to 28%. >> there's no way. unless suddenly your income were to double, that you're going to be able with interest rate carrying like that, to do this. i think it does make perfect sense for you to go to a national foundation for credit counseling affiliate. >> caller: here's the question i have, though. our goal is to try to get in to a -- we own a condo and the idea that maybe in a couple of years we would be able to sell it. will that hinder us from looking at getting a new house? >> yes, during the time you still owe money, that will hurt your ab