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peter odom, defense attorney out of atlanta. anne bremner, high-profile lawyer out of seattle. first to you, anne bremner. weigh in. >> i just have to think about misty and the polygraph, nancy. think about -- they're not admissible in court. ted bundy passed one. and one other thing in terms of use of these, they're not to be used on juveniles. she's still pretty young. and finally, we don't have somebody that's a certified polygraph examiner here. so i just have to kind of whoa, stop a little and speak a little bit for misty -- >> you know what, anne? you're right. >> thank you. >> you're absolutely correct. in that ted bundy did pass a polygraph. they are not infallible. however, let me ask you this, miss bremner. >> yes. >> isn't it true that you have asked some of your clients to take a polygraph before? >> well, nancy, i have. but you know what? when i've -- >> why? >> because i want to know privately. but when i do it -- >> but did you believe it? >> did i believe the results? >> yes. >> you know what? >> i want to see bremner. >> nancy, i don't know if i would take one
peter odom, defense attorney out of atlanta. anne bremner, high-profile lawyer out of seattle. first to you, anne bremner. weigh in. >> i just have to think about misty and the polygraph, nancy. think about -- they're not admissible in court. ted bundy passed one. and one other thing in terms of use of these, they're not to be used on juveniles. she's still pretty young. and finally, we don't have somebody that's a certified polygraph examiner here. so i just have to kind of whoa, stop a...
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peter odom, veteran defense attorney, former prosecutor atlanta. alex sanchez, renowned defense attorney out of new york. eleanor. when you're trying to determine the veracity or the truth of a witness's statement, you look for things that corroborate that statement. you and i have had to go in front of juries many, many times. listen, dope dealers, robbers, murderers, they don't hang out with nuns and priests and virgins. so often you have to corroborate what witnesses say. >> exactly. >> so let's take a look. what do we have in corroboration, eleanor? we have that night ronald cummings admittedly trying to reach misty croslin. she had been gone for three days, awol. partying three days. she comes home that night, they get in a huge big fight. he has to go to work. and by his own admission he calls, he calls-e calls, he calls, she won't pick up. he's calling all of her family. that corroborates what the brother's saying, that ronald called him and said i can't get her on the phone, please go to the house and check on her. >> you're exactly right,
peter odom, veteran defense attorney, former prosecutor atlanta. alex sanchez, renowned defense attorney out of new york. eleanor. when you're trying to determine the veracity or the truth of a witness's statement, you look for things that corroborate that statement. you and i have had to go in front of juries many, many times. listen, dope dealers, robbers, murderers, they don't hang out with nuns and priests and virgins. so often you have to corroborate what witnesses say. >> exactly....
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eleanor odom, a veteran prosecutor specializing on crimes against children, peter o.com, c odom, carmen st. george. eleanor, that is complete bs. that scenario is impossible. because when you enter into a negotiated plea deal, the judge doesn't suddenly sentence you to jail that day. if he or she he rejects the deal, you have the right to go to trial. you don't get sent off to jail if a judge rejects a plea. that is absolutely a lie. that is not true. there is no technicality here. >> you're exactly right, nancy. what we've got is a negotiation between the prosecutor and the defense attorney. as you said, the judge does not have to accept it. if the judge does not accept it, the person has every right to go to trial. >> nancy, it's not an impossible scenario when there's collusion between the judge and the prosecutor. and that's what's alleged here. a court reviewing the process found irregularities in the sentencing process. unfortunately -- >> he was never sentenced, so how can there be irregularities in the sentencing process if he was never sentenced? the process was never complete.
eleanor odom, a veteran prosecutor specializing on crimes against children, peter o.com, c odom, carmen st. george. eleanor, that is complete bs. that scenario is impossible. because when you enter into a negotiated plea deal, the judge doesn't suddenly sentence you to jail that day. if he or she he rejects the deal, you have the right to go to trial. you don't get sent off to jail if a judge rejects a plea. that is absolutely a lie. that is not true. there is no technicality here. >>...
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eleanor dixon, peter odom, alex sanchez. peter odom, let's go to sheryl's second question., peter, give me your best, put it in a nutshell. >> polygraphs are unreliable. it would be unprofessional to arrest somebody on the base of a polygraph alone. >> okay, alex. just a couple of yes/nos. have you ever had one of your clients take a polygraph? >> yes, i have. >> because you believe polygraphs do work? >> i was interested in seeing what defendant had to say. he told me he was innocent and i decided to give a polygraph. >> instead of saying as mr. odom does, that they are unreliable, isn't it true under our constitution and under the law as it exists that a polygraph is not admissible in court unless both sides stipulate to admissibility prior to the poly being taken. that didn't happen here. they need more than that. >> a polygraph is not a substitute for hard evidence in the case. a polygraph is not admissible in any court in the united states. therefore, if he failed a polygraph, as the questioner had called, you can't arrest somebody simply because they failed a polygrap
eleanor dixon, peter odom, alex sanchez. peter odom, let's go to sheryl's second question., peter, give me your best, put it in a nutshell. >> polygraphs are unreliable. it would be unprofessional to arrest somebody on the base of a polygraph alone. >> okay, alex. just a couple of yes/nos. have you ever had one of your clients take a polygraph? >> yes, i have. >> because you believe polygraphs do work? >> i was interested in seeing what defendant had to say. he...
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think it really collaborates the brother's story, misty's brother. >> let me clarify something, peter odom. you're the defense story. so it's not helping croslin for you to say the brother's story, that she wasn't home at the time haleigh goes missing was accurate. so help out misty, if you can. maybe you can't. >> i think you would have to look at the course of conduct between misty and ron. you know, it's clear that they were arguing at some point close to that time. if she wasn't opening the phone, he might not think anything about that. >> i would cut ronald a break on that. to marie in mississippi. what's your question? >> caller: my question is, i've seen misty many times crying real tears and being real upset because of this and i've never seen ron do anything but screw up his face and whimper. and i think he married her to keep her close to him, but to make sure she wasn't telling on him instead of seeing what she might have done. i really believe you need to look closer to ron. >> but he absolutely has an alibi for when she went missing, marie. >> caller: who took up for him? who
think it really collaborates the brother's story, misty's brother. >> let me clarify something, peter odom. you're the defense story. so it's not helping croslin for you to say the brother's story, that she wasn't home at the time haleigh goes missing was accurate. so help out misty, if you can. maybe you can't. >> i think you would have to look at the course of conduct between misty and ron. you know, it's clear that they were arguing at some point close to that time. if she wasn't...