>> i think we learned that wayne clough is a very good fundraiser. one of the things you could see about the way he talked, his passion, his love for the future. that's what will help the organization raise the money it needs to survive. the fact he said things were going well is a huge statement. in the nonprofit world people are saying just staying flat is a good thing. so the fact they're doing well in these tough times is a good sign for the future. >> you were bringing up a line of questioning about theline changes, the web developments at the smithsonian. what have you been seeing? >> i think he has already tried to bring an on-line pilot program for k-12 students to talk about the lincoln bicentennial. they want to do that type of thing again to talk about climate change and to be a major player in education where the smithsonian hasn't been before. >> clearly he came onboard because of mr. small's resignation. can you follow up about the question about that and what he inherited? >> what is important is he has had to institute a number of cha

. >> joining us on "newsmakers" is wayne clough, he's the secretary of the smithsonian institute, mr. clough, let me ask about the funding for the smithsonian, about 35% from government sources, the stock market is struggling and debt increase, are you looking for other sources of funding? >> we are, we want to be more self-reliant, there was a budget challenge even before the economic recession. we think we have come through the recession pretty well. we had an increase in attendance, we are a wonderful bargain for the american people, because we are free. and we have had some increase and had some tightening of the belt. and now the question is how to deal with the long-term economics. and we can through grants and contracts and fill -- fill --fill philanthropy. >> can you think of any time you would charge admission? >> no, that's not part of our thinking, when i see the families and the wonderful smiles on the faces there. and the people come multiple times. that's a great thing for the american people. and at all costs if we can keep free admission, we should try. >> stacey, firs

. >> wayne clough, secretary of the smithsonian institution, thank you. we continue this congression with bred and stacey, stacey, what did you learn? >> i think that we learned that wayne clough is a very good fund-raiser, and one thing that you >?hcould see in how he talk about the institution about his love for it and the future, and that help it raise the money to survive. and the fact that they are raising money, in the nonprofit world, people saying just to stay flat is even tough. >> you brought up the question of the online changes, the web development, what have you been seeing over there? >> he's already tried to bring an online project pilot for k-12, they did it as a pilot for 5,000 students this past spring. they want to do that to talk about climate change and be an educator, as the smithsonian hasn't done before. >> he came on because of smaller as resignation and what mr. clough has inherit? >> i think there was a number of changes, there was a culture o problems and he's had to move quickly to deal with that. and he's got experience with

we have a guest, wayne clough who wants to see resources including the subject of climate change. >> we at the smithonian, we will do our best to be presenting information for people it make their own mind up. the fact is that climate change is an ongoing issue, and it may be happening but it hasn't happened yet. i was wyoming where we have a botanist making predictions when global warming happened earlier, and why are we there? we are there to look at rocks and looking at palm leafs in wyoming. so 5500 years ago this earth was very warm, and what is happening is natural and man-made influences. and our job is to provide solid information on this story. it's a complex story because carbon comes from a lot of places. >> how can you trace the time frame, if -- 55 million versus 555 million. >> well, you can date the profiles and measure the carbon isotopes in the layers, and see what kinds of carbon were there and where the sources came from. that was about the time that mammals were making a run after the dinosaurs were gone. they disappeared and mammals came in. they survived that pe

on newsmakers this week we have wayne clough. he talks about how yowould likeo see this most onion -- smithsonian weigh in on major issues of the day. >> our position is that we will do our best to be honest brokers on this issue. what we want to do is present information that is useful for the people. the fact is climate change is a complex issue. it may be happening, but has not happened yet. there is a prediction part of the story of climate change. i was in wyoming where we have a lot of us who is making observations on when global warming did happen. why are we there? we can document what really happens when global warming actually occurs. 55 million years ago this earth was very warm. what is happening in terms of the climate is a combination of natural and man-made influences. our job is to provide solid information to help people understand the story. it is a complex story because carbon comes from a lot of different places. we want to be the honest broker on these issues. 55 million years is based on dating these things

. >> coming up next, wayn clough talks about the future of the smithsonian. then senator mark warner and a town hall meeting on health care. later, t.r. reid talks about his book "the healing of america." >> the house returns on tuesday at 2:00 p.m. eastern from its august break. the members planned to begin the week with a number of bills dealing with federal land and historic sites. later next week, a measure of continuing programs to restore the chesapeake bay. the senate is also back next two-state at 2:00 eastern. they will begin with general speeches. later in the day, they will turn to legislation to promote tourism to people in foreign countries. the bill would create a non- profit tourism corporation. the senate is live on c-span2. >> joining us this sunday is the secretary of the smithsonian institution. we also have stacey palmer and brett from the associated press. about 65% of funding for the smithsonian comes from the federal government. the stock market continues to struggle. are you looking for other sources of funding down the road? where? >>