tavis: 25 years. >> no. no.n faithful through the journey and the ups and downs and -- it is a great thing to put it through your music, rather than gospel, rather than just positive music. it is a music is very powerful and we should use it to uplift people as opposed to tearing them down. god has been safer. >> 6 when you first came on the scene, i can remember now the friend that turned me on to the two of you. as a matter of fact, y'all do the concert thing, i'm going to call her even though she's married with kids. i can take her. we friends. she called me and said you got to hear this group. the brothers of course. got the c.d. and fell in love with it. and came to see y'all. do you remember this? i was here for the first night that you got here. and when can he a came out, this bebe and cece thing was cute because you were younger. ive i have a friend watching now, back in indiana, and his wife will lose what holy ghost he does have if i call him june bug. we have been friends since she were -- we were ki

tavis: yes. tell me about "a serious man" and the role you play in it. >> "a serious man" is about a physic professor named larry gopnik living in suburban minneapolis in the 1960's with his family and his life essentially starts falling apart. his wife tells him she wants a divorce and a number of other things start going terribly wrong and he has this sort of existencial crisis in which he starts seeking spiritual advice, emotional advice, legal advice from a variety of people, none of whom is particularly helpful to him and the crisis sort of deepens as the film goes on. i play his divorce attorney who, while very on the surface very officious and caring is really not of much use in the long run. tavis: when i watch you in movies or watch you on television, "sons of anarchy" or whatever it might be, i know that you direct because i see your name a lot of times in grey's anatomy or shows you direct, how do you behave yourself, as it were? keep in mind what hat you are wearing when you are actin

tavis: good evening. fr los angeles, i am tavis smiley. first up tonight, our nversation th emmy-winning sportscaster james brown, popular st of "the nfl today." gb receny conductea much lked about profile, michael ck, for 60 minutes. also, two talented musicians from mexico known as santiago y gabrie. they have become popular success. in just a few minutes,heir last project, ":11." thais coming up right now. >> there are so many thgs that wal-mart is looking fward to doing, li helping people ve better. but mtly, we're helping build ronger communities and relationships. with your help, the best is yet to come. >> nationwide insuranc oudly supports "vis smiley." taviand nationwide, working together to prove financial literacy a the economi empowerment thatomes with it. >>♪ nationwide on your side ♪ >> a by contributions to your s station from viewers like you. thank you. [captioning me possible by kc public television] tavis: james brown is an my- winning sportscastereserves as the st of the popular pregame show on c, "the nfl today," follo

tavis: good evening from los angeles. i'm tavis smiley. tonight a conversation with oscar-winning filmmaker michael moore. he takes a critical look at capitalism in america. "capitalism: a love story" opens in theaters around the country on october 2. we're glad you could join us. michael moore coming up right now. >> there are so many things that wal-mart is looking forward to doing, like helping people live better, but mostly we're looking forward to helping build stronger communities and relationships because with your help, the best is yet to come. >> nationwide insurance proudly supports tavis smiley. tavis and nationwide insurance working to improve financial literacy and the economic empowerment that comes with it. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. [captioning made possible by kcet public television] tavis: always pleased to welcome michael moore to this program. he has had some of the most indelible films of our generation. "roger & me," "fahrenheit 9/11" an

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