. >> we have medical testimony, unrefuted, unrefuted internist. and this isn't subjective. ates spent three nights in the hospital tested overnight for sleep disorder, sleep apnea. >> you say he was too sleep -- judge karen? >> this is michelle. >> oh, michelle, okay. somebody. >> thank you. we also know that people who are small and weak can lift up cars when they get an adrenaline rush. our bodies take over in moments of stress, fight or flight, and will do what we need to do to get done. and literally this could -- i find it very interesting. >> like sumo wrestlers -- >> the doctor addressed exactly that issue. the doctor said, you can lift up a car, an old lady can lift up a car to free her child. but she cannot hold the car up for 21 hours. >> isn't there somehow evidence against the defendant in this case, isn't there some computer evidence that he was searching on how to commit the perfect murder, how to pick a lock on a sliding glass door? don't they also have some wiretaps where he's talking to his sister and his mother and saying, let's make sure we all have our s

. >> we have medical testimony, unrefuted, unrefuted internist. and this isn't subjective. ates spent three nights in the hospital tested overnight for sleep disorder, sleep apnea. >> you say he was too sleep -- judge karen? >> this is michelle. >> oh, michelle, okay. somebody. >> thank you. we also know that people who are small and weak can lift up cars when they get an adrenaline rush. our bodies take over in moments of stress, fight or flight, and will do what we need to do to get done. and literally this could -- i find it very interesting. >> like sumo wrestlers -- >> the doctor addressed exactly that issue. the doctor said, you can lift up a car, an old lady can lift up a car to free her child. but she cannot hold the car up for 21 hours. >> isn't there somehow evidence against the defendant in this case, isn't there some computer evidence that he was searching on how to commit the perfect murder, how to pick a lock on a sliding glass door? don't they also have some wiretaps where he's talking to his sister and his mother and saying, let's make sure we all have our s

on the other hand, the white house does, i think, worry that arguments that are unrefuted tend to migratehrough the media bloodstream. i think the olympics is really a tangential issue for a lot of people, but there's really nothing that is beyond the bounds of political controversy at this point in america. >> let me just stop you right there because the white house being worried about -- i actually think they know exactly what they're doing. you talk about this market for polarization, and i think they're using it in their best interests, pat buchanan, harold ford jr., let's bring it back to ron. think about it. the white house setting up rush limbaugh as the leader of the republican party. that was useful. that worked. >> i thought the white house got creamed on this one by glenn beck. glenn beck made a mistake. then they elevated glenn beck. they gave him an opportunity to say all these things which were very persuasive about vancouver, and msnbc has just run about a minute of glenn beck. >> but what does that do to the other side in terms of democrats versus republicans? >> i think i