this passion that i'm on here and a revelation trying to start next year and it's really work from gary talb. it's his whole idea that what we're doing right now is a conventional world and what conventional doctors and experts are saying that calories is the problem. the reason we're overweight is that we eat too much and don't exercise enough. we hear that all the time. >> i'm so sick of that explanation. >> because it's wrong. it has been going on for over 60 years. and this diet is based on that philosophy that less is more. what i tell people, that doesn't work. because if you do that long term where you starve yourself -- >> you won't keep it off. >> thank you. right? >> also, this dr. siegal says that you need quick weight loss in order to not feel discouraged. dr. rozen, what do you think about an idea of a quick weight loss plan? is that healthy? >> what you want is a steady weight loss plan that you can stay on for the rest of your life because weight cycling, the quick loss and regain is much worse for your health than slow, steady loss or maintaining a higher weight. in fact, wha