whether you think of tom friedman, a whole spectrum of people have been extraordinary. you read the editorial page of the newspapers that people like to make fun of it. it is astonishing what thoughtfulness p goes into the writing. if we lose that, it's very often for societies at whole. that doesn't mean that somewhere on internet you also don't get extraordinary things. and there are sites that developing that are terrific. in fact, there's access to every perspective in the world, internet, and that has to be respected. but the break down of the thought that tries to be represented of the center, and then tries to have some per spect of of the right and left. and i think it would be a great loss of society. >> what responsibility, if any, do cable tv host, radio talkers, and others like frank and roger have in regard to the nature of this course that affected the public debate? >> well, i think the cable shows have become democratic in the sense that they've looked at constituency. and they are trying to appeal. and also beyond that, that we sometimes forget that the