in a lot of the countries that the burkman center covered, the -- bergman center covered, here in the united states we have both a cable company and a telco/cable providing broadband. now, there's advantages and disadvantages to that. but that's where we are, and we plan on building a plan based on america's strengths and trying to compensate for certain kinds of weaknesses, but building on where we are. >> host: so if cable and wireless and phone -- so basically it's cable and phone companies moving forward, and they're going to be really driving the next generation of broadband and you're expecting them, whatever they're going to be doing to increase their speeds, are there things that the government could do to help those companies increase faster? i mean, tax credits or other things? >> guest: first let me say that i disagree with the premise of the question because when you look at the broadband universe, you're just talking about the networks. competition -- there is a function where there's competition within, between the networks. but what we see happening in the broader broad