>> i was on the other side of pasadena, my first phone call was you guys. >> larry: you found out from cnn? >> i found out from cnn. i said i'm going to call my mother right away. she said she was on her way to the hospital. within 45 minutes, i spoke to janet and i spoke to our attorney, and the next thing i know, i call my mother back. to hear her voice, she was at the hospital. she said he's dead with just a horrible tone in her voice. >> larry: wiere you all very close, jackie? >> yes, despite michael travels a lot and does his own thing, we're all close, very close. >> larry: and despite his fame, there was no jealousy? >> none whatsoever because we're brothers and we're in this together. >> he was a jackson 5 platform that launched all of the individual careers, michael's, janet's, ours, the jackset 5. >> the camaraderie began in the early '60s before we came to motown, our traveling to the apollo in our truck with our equipment, and there was a bound born amongst the brothers because we were striving, trying to make things happen. >> larry: we'll askuct the reality series in a m

>> well, my first -- i was on the other side of pasadena.y first phone call was you guys. >> larry: you found out from cnn? >> i found out from cnn. and i just said, i'm going to call my mother right away. so i called my mother, she said she was on her way to the hospital. within 45 minutes passed, janet -- i spoke to janet and i spoke to our attorney, joe katz, and the next thing i knew, and i called my mother back, and to hear her voice, she was at the hospital, and she said, he's dead. just a horrible tone in her voice. >> larry: were you all very close, jackie? >> yes, we were very close. despite michael travels a lot and he does his own thing, but we're all close. very close. >> larry: and despite his fame, tito, there was no jealousy or anything? >> none, whatsoever. because we're all brothers and we all reared together. >> it was the jackson five platform that launched all the individual careers. michael's, janet's, ours. it was the jackson five. >> i think what people don't understand, the camaraderie amongst the brothers began back

hatfield, you are talking here about the pasadena were dynamic sharing of spectrum.make more efficient use currently allocated spectrum. what percentage of our spectrum and need to do you think can be satisfied just by use of dynamic sharing? >> i have not look that is candidly in that quantitative way. but i think -- i'm not going to answer you satisfactorily but i think it's sufficient enough to be a significant health. i don't think it gets us all the way. >> so what you are talking about here is something which is supplemental to what the needs are going to be in the future but not a substitute for transfer of spectrum in order to do with the issue, is that right? >> i guess i would put a slightly different. we are going to need to use all of these different techniques. >> i use it is polysyllabic words put in very simple english. using everything. do you agree with that, mr. largent? it reminds me of a discussion of cafe standards, improvement of efficiency of vehicles for appliance efficiency where can we use new technology here to get better efficiency out of