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was a publicist for nightclubs, and as a publicist, he would get some advertising -- advertising circulars from the music corporation of america. and he didn't think they were very good, so he would redo them for his nightclubs. his nightclubs would be booking mca's bands. and jules stein's brother, bill, heard about this guy, lew, who never thought their advertising was good enough, and he got to meet him. and he brought him to chicago eventually to meet jules stein. he was 23 at the time. c-span: why did you get interested in these two characters? >> guest: i got interested, really, in wasserman because i interviewed him in '91, when mca was sold to matsushita. i did a long piece for "the new yorker" about that transaction and the personalities involved in it. and at that time, i came to realize that wasserman was a fascinating figure and immensely powerful. for around 50 years, he was clearly the most powerful man in hollywood. he influenced virtually everything that happened in that community. and it went beyond hollywood because it was -- since he wanted to control that world, it mean

send me the data and it's all circular they send me to other union people who say everyone knows that they die early. so i called -- you know, it took me a while to figure out but i called calprs directly and they sent me the data or they sent me a presentation that they give based on the data. and police, if they retire at 50 and they live 3 to 5 years after they'd retire they would be dying at 53, 56. no they live to be on average 82.6. and that is the identical same age as the miscellaneous members, the other public employee members covered by the public employee retirement system. and, of course, based on what i see, the public employees tend to live in general than the rest of us, longer than the rest of us. it's not a justification. for these pension deals. another justification i hear is -- i'm told all the time -- i was debating a union -- a union official on a radio program and they said well, the average pension is only something 27, $30,000 a year in california. that's what they said. and it's true. that number is true. but it includes everybody, right? so they don't mentio

it's all circular. pages in the two other union people who say the ever one knows that they diurnal. so i called, took me a while to figure it out, but i called calpers directly and they sent me the data on this in a presentation that they give based on the data. and have found that police, unicom is a retired 50 and only lived to be three to five years after they retire, they would be dying at 5356. no, they live on average 82.6, and that is the identical same age as the miscellaneous members, the other public employee members covered either public employee retirement system. and of course, based on what i see, the public employees tend to live in general more than the rest of us, longer than the rest of us. so it's not true. it's not a justification for these pension deals. another justification i hear is, i told all the time was debating a union, union official on a radio program and he said the average patient is only something like idol, 27, 30000 hours a year in california. that's what they said.

what we saw was a circular flow of influence.began with the changes in both the political system and foreign policy in moscow. what happened there, especially poland, the june elections had a huge impact in the baltic republics of the soviet union. turned full circle. the soviet union itself by the end of 1989 year had a communist system in my view. the two most important political edge to be its are the communist party and what it was called the democratic centralism. extremely limited rights and discussion. but in the march, 1989, contested elections saw communist party members competing against one another and the soviet union on fundamentally different platforms. democratic centralism was cast aside. without it was called the leading role of the party was also completely undermined. new political authorizations' such as the into regional group of deputies within the new parliament. much of this political pluralism was consciously embraced and even promoted by gorbachev and his allies within the party. this vehemently oppo

[laughter] >> i but there is some circular describe themselves that way, but not so many. a certain number of bosnians, muslims. but fundamentally, this is and how they look at it. this was really a construct that we had. we also referred to soviets and czechoslovak. and we refer to iraqi's. and again, virtually every kurd, call them an iraqi. he or she is offended. and frankly, describes, this break describes how we view the country. i listen to you describe iraq as flat. well, that's true for the part of iraq that thinks of itself as iraq. but if you look at the map, that isn't strictly speaking true. [inaudible] >> well, parts of afghanistan are flat and it simply, the flat parts at least in the south is where much of the problem is. but if you then sort of stop at the filter of looking at existing states, and also consider nationalities, it gives you a rather different picture. and it shows, i think, why, in fact, -- were never going to lose the iraq war in the sense that there was never going to be a moment -- well, we're going to lose if our objective was the unity o

so you get into this trap, circular kind of logic.ve got to be objective, i will bow spiced with that in fact, your story is and balanced as you given equal weight to things that shouldn't be there, have no merit, intellectual merit, artistic human merit. so at a very young age, very ambitious, very ambitious, very ambitious. she began developing what she would call struggle for subjectivity. extremely counterintuitive. she began developing that struggle, and then try to fast for that she got out of school and what the media does tribune where she really struggled that she was bifurcated person. almost schizophrenic existence. they sent her out to cover the minnesota state fair, the local rodeo and stories about putting new shingles on your roof. my goodness, molly ivins, what the heck. on the flipside, suspiciously, she was going to every corner she could in minnesota to find every radical that existed. a little difficult in minnesota, i will just say, at that time. but she found them. in her opinion the goodhearted aggressive. and s

so you get into this trap, this circular kind of logic coming up, i've got to be this for my own storyand vector stories and balanced because he given equal weight to things that shouldn't be there and have no merit, intellectual merit, artistic human merit. so at a very young age, this is very ambitious, she began developing what she would call a struggle for subject tbd. it's extremely counterintuitive. but she began on struggle. and then trying to passport, she got out of school went to the minneapolis star tribune, a mainstream paper were she really struggled. she was almost a schizophrenic existence. this honor out to cover the minnesota state fair, local radio and stories about putting new shingles on your roof. my goodness, molly ivins, what the heck? what are the editors thinking? on the flipside, said viciously she was going to every corner in minnesota to find every radical that existed. a little difficult in minnesota, let's just say at that time. but she found them. in her opinion she found a good hearty progressives and frankly tapped into a deeper vein of socialist, old g

there are people that don't have seats in the them there is a room one floor down at this end of the circular walkway with a video feed where you can sit and watch and hear the panel and perhaps a bit more covered but it's your choice. at this point i would like to ask kenneth hackett, the president of catholic relief service, to make some remarks to you. one is the head of an organization which is one of the largest humanitarian relief and development organizations in the world. he oversees activities in 100 countries want with a staff of approaching 5,000 people. he became president in 1993 and has been with us since then. >> thank you very much, dennis, and thank you to the wilson center. this is an honor and pleasure. it's a great turnout here today and i want to start by recognizing one of our board members for coming over and and being with us. that is support from the top. this morning where this afternoon this conversation on the water and conflict i think is going to be most interesting. the i don't consider myself in any way expert in the topics so what you do if you're not an exper

right now the total amount of money that is raised on a yearly basis by all circulars that come via thefederal income tax is at $1.08 trillion. so this is over a 10-year period. are you willing to increase taxes on everyone 11% to pay for this healthcare bill because that's what it costs and it won't be able to be done by just taxing the wealthy? >> no, because i disagree with the premises in your bill. everyone appreciates that healthcare needs reform and it's complicated and we can throw numbers around and argue about it. we did in massachusetts and we look at costs and as we go forward on the national level we can't afford not to do healthcare reform so we can figure out how we have to pay for it, what we will save by early prevention, early screenings, the ways in which we turn around, how we pay for these services. we pay far too much for the results that we get in healthcare. >> just to go on the record, the numbers i'm giving you are the numbers from the government and from the tax foundation. >> and the congressional budget office says in 10 years it will be deficit neutral, bud

but he is somebody who i sometimes talk about his decision-making when i used to call the circular conversationwhere he's just talking to different people over a timeframe and absorbing different thoughts and influences. in terms of policymaking at never been a policy person or claim to be a policy person, but i would be his person who is always thinking -- >> to some a lot point he told the finance committee, i quote, i was involved in a loud discussions about policy and strategy on iraq. and then there is an adviser to the prime minister. so surely were policy person? >> abbott and there as a part of that discussion and that operation that is thinking the whole time about communications issues. i'll be absolutely frank. when we first won in 97 general election, the the communications systems of the inherited in my view were not fit for purpose. they had to be brought into media range. >> at the bit before our period. >> it explains why i was doing the job i did at the time i did it and how we understood that on some name -- not just on issues to do with foreign affairs and security or any of

squeeze education, university grants, student loans write down a line so in the long run it is a circular unless we do something about controlling the entitlements and growth of the entitlements it will continue to put pressure on the kind of investment programs we need for the young people today. >> when using controlling the growth of entitlements, tell me when you really mean by that. >> unfortunately it falls off the tongue so nicely, doesn't it? [laughter] people say i'm a farm boy from indiana, somebody pointed that out. i said go ahead and eliminate the farm programs, don't care, that will buy you all $20 billion may be. that is not -- when we talk about entitlement let's be honest what we are talking about, social security, medicare and medicaid, the three hardest issues politically to deal with, and as i said this morning what worries me and i'm guessing what ray on this one, i think we are taking some of our degrees of freedom of of the table with this bill that we are not going to be able to come back and address the programs unless we set up something like john said, some sort

who do not have the seeds and need to seats -- there is a room one floor down at this end up the circularwatch and hear the panel in perhaps a bit more comfort. but it is your trees. at this point, i would like to ask ken hackett, president of catholic relief services, to make some remarks to you. ken he is the head of a work in -- ken is the head of an organization which is one of the largest humanitarian relief organizations in the world. he oversees activities in over 100 countries, with a staff of our perching 5000 people. -- fallstaff approaching 5000 people. he became president -- a staff approaching 5000 people. he became president in 1993. >> thank you to the wilson center. this is an honor and pleasure. great turnout today. i want to start out by recognizing what our board members -- one of our board members from coming over and being with us. that is support from the top. this morning -- this afternoon, this conversation on water and conflict i think is going to be most interesting to i don't consider myself in any way expert in the topics, so what do you do if you are not an ex

so in the long run it is a circular unless we do something about controlling those entitlements and thef those entitlements it will continue to put pressure on the kind of investment programs we need for the job people today. >> when using controlling the growth of entitlement tell me when you really mean by that. >> unfortunately it rolls off the tongues of nicely, doesn't it? [laughter] people -- i'm a farm boy from indiana, someone pointed that out. great, eliminate -- eliminate the farm programs. i don't care, go ahead eliminate that will buy $20 billion may be. that's not -- when we talk about entitlements less be honest what we are talking a lot, social security, medicare and medicaid. the three hardest issues we have politically to do with. and as i said this morning what worries me and i guessing with ray on this 1i think we are taking some of our degrees of freedom of the table with this bill that we are not going to be able to come back and address those programs unless we set up something like john said, some sort of and then tied to our lives and the proposal we will come ou

but he's somebody -- and i sometimes talk about his decision-making style what i call a circular conversationhere he's talking different people over a time frame and absorbing different thoughts and influences. and in terms of policymaking, i've never been a policy person and never claimed to be a policy person but i would be his person who was always thinking -- .. systems of the inherited in my view were not fit for purpose. they had to be >> if we can just come back to the period -- >> no, but it explains why i was doing the job that i did at the time that i did it, and how he understood that on something not just issues to do with foreign affairs and security, but on any of the major issues and high-profile issues you have to have a communications element, if you like, embedded in those policy discussions. >> okay. so in the circle of people that you describe, you've talked or yourself, jonathan powell, sir david manning, john scarlet, sir richard dearlove of sis, did the prime minister seek advice also frequently in the period we're talking about from peter mandelson? >> no, sir, not a

but he is somebody who i sometimes talk about his decision-making when i used to call the circular conversatione he's just talking to different people over a timeframe and absorbing different thoughts and influences. in terms of policymaking at never been a policy person or claim to be a policy person, but i would be his person who is always thinking -- >> to some a lot point he told the finance committee, i quote, i was involved in a loud discussions about policy and strategy on iraq. and then there is an adviser to the prime minister. so surely were policy person? >> abbott and there as a part of that discussion and that operation that is thinking the whole time about communications issues. i'll be absolutely frank. when we first won in 97 general election, the the communications systems of the inherited in my view were not fit for purpose. they had to be brought into media range. >> at the bit before our period. >> it explains why i was doing the job i did at the time i did it and how we understood that on some name -- not just on issues to do with foreign affairs and security or any of the

perhaps proving the old adage that ideology may be circular rather than linear. some of us however mr. chairman find herself, and i associate myself with the position of chairman dodd in a different position on the question of your nomination. i will support you. not because i think you didn't make mistakes as you've admitted here today. you did. not because i don't think we should hold everyone accountable for doing better. i think we should. because i think you're in the best place to improve the situation to maximize the chances that we do not have a recurrence of some of these things, including the aig situation that senator dodd mentioned. on you know, there's a lot of culpability go around. that had made mistakes, as you've indicated. the treasury made mistakes. virtually every other regulatory body made mistakes. congress made mistakes. those on the left made mistakes. those on the right made mistakes. virtually every other government in their institutions make mistakes. virtually every institution of any magnitude in the private sector made mistakes. so s

. >> host: howard, do you do your own circulars or do you pay somebody to do them for you. >> caller:tually, i'm a person who can read and write but i really never thought about trying to fill it out myself. i just don't want to make no mistakes so i go to somebody and pay them $150. >> host: do you feel like you would have more confidence in the person who's doing your taxes if you know they passed some sort of government test or had to be licensed by the government. >> caller: well, i probably might be in a better position to judge if that person is a good preparer or not. but there has to really be some standards. i mean, it's so funny that like i always thought i got three kids and probably i get some refund. i thought it's big. but sometimes i hear somebody just got one child, a friend of mine, who gets like double of that. i mean, it just sounds so funny. how can somebody get that big and somebody also, you know, probably in the same range -- >> host: maybe you should have that guy doing your taxes. thanks for your call. a little bit more from the article in the "washington post