that produced tension between jesse jackson and senator obama.er example was the skip gates incident where the cambridge police department had acted stupidly and immediate the the media came down on him siding with african-americans quote-unquote showing his true color that he was definitely a partisan and on this side of black folks. remember then senator obama is somebody above the fray and the honest archer even though he happens to be black. and obama as the umpire is the famous race speech in 2008 that the president made while he was still a senator when the association with the trinity church his 20 year association in chicago and the pastor jeremiah wright threatened to derail the candidacy because bloggers got a videotape of jeremiah wright partially criticizing u.s. and domestic foreign policy. if this is his preacher that obama must share the same beliefs. so obama's gave a very good speech on race that was perceived as being extraordinary. and he parse very well. on one level he disagreed but on another he could understand where wright

i think that has produced tension between jesse jackson and then senator obama to read another example in terms of race was the skip gates incident in cambridge where the president said cambridge police departments and acted stupidly and immediately and the media came down on him as sort of siding with african-americans or quote on quote even showing his true colors meaning he was definitely a partisan -- he definitely was on the sock of black folks because remember then senator obama runs as somebody above the fray cross somebody who can be an honest are richer or in higher in terms of race matters even though he happens to be black and probably the great example of obama as umpire is the famous race speech in march of 2008 and that was the speech the president made while he was still the center to become senator when his association with trinity church, 24 association of trinity church in chicago and its pastor commager my right of jeremiah might basically harshly criticizing the u.s. domestic and foreign policy. and they said if this is obama's preacher than obama must share the sam

i think that has produced some tension between jesse jackson and then senator obama. another example in terms of race was the gates incident in cambridge with the president said that the cambridge police department had acted stupidly, and immediately the media came down on him as sort of siding with african-americans or quote unquote even showing his true color. he was definitely a partisan. he definitely was on the side of black votes. then senator obama runs as somebody who is above the fray, somebody who can be an honest arbiter or umpire in terms of race matters. the great example of obama as umpire is the famous race speech in march of 2008, and that was the speech that the president made while he was solicitor while his association with the trinity church, his 20-year association with the trinity church in chicago and his pastor, jeremiah wright, threatened to derail his candidacy because lawyers had gotten videotape of jeremiah right basically harshly criticizing u.s. u.s. domestic d foreign policy. this is obama's preacher. obama gave a very good speech on rac

so that he could seek jesse jackson advice, but privately but not to exploit the phone call. he knew that i go back with reverend jackson for a long time. i did talk to reverend jackson, and he talked with me being on the phone and listening. the kind of contrition that he showed, the awareness of his background, his incense activity, his abltd to make the remark that he made and not realizing how awful it was. he admitted to reverend jackson, and reverend jackson said i forgive you and let us pray. it was a very moving moment for senator lott and reverend jackson together. a white man from the deep south recognizing over all the years his insensitivity. forgiveness for senator lott was warranted the fact his fellow republicans turned on him was disgusting in my opinion. i think senator reid is a good man, a great man with a great heart. you could have political disagreements with senator reid, but he's a good man. nobody should accuse him of harboring ill will towards african-americans or anybody including republicans. he's a decent man and shouldn't resign when he's apologi

he was a break from what we saw normally from the activism of a jesse jackson or al sharpton running for president. he was a safe negro. >> i really have a problem with that. >> have a problem or not, we heard black folks you and i both know -- >> i'm not saying they didn't say it. i have a problem with the whole concept. >> the concept of somebody is safe or not? >> yeah. these different levels of authenticity. i think loving oprah and hating condoleezza rice is a problem. i think judging a level of blackness is not a problem, brt butt harry reid was not alone in his assertion. >> is it just stupidity? how often do you hear the word negro being bantered about these days? >> i mean, honestly, coming from a senate majority leader no less, than one point to make. i mean, it's tantamount to saying light skinned black folks can pass as long as they leave their ghetto dialect at the door is what harry reid has said and just to be able to pass it off. black leaders and otherwise who are now passing this off as he's sorry, it's okay because he's cool with us in the black community. that doe

so chicago and jesse jackson really impact the country's evolution from black power to barack obama.the jackson campaign is a very interesting one because it's those campaigns that change the democratic party's primary rules to proportional representation from a winner- take-all system. without the jackson campaign, hillary clinton would have been the democratic party's nominee in 2008. >> suarez: the chicago that schools barack obama in politics is not only harold washington's chicago, it's also jesse jackson's chicago and louis fair kahn's chicago, the johnson family of ebony and jet magazine. aren't a lot of different ways of being black in america proposed during this era? >> absolutely. another person in chicago that is rev. jeremiah wright. barack obama is in his trinity united church for 20 years. i think that's a very interesting example of johnson's chicago, louis fair kahn's chicago, area my a wright's chicago. obama takes all that in. he doesn't embrace all aspects of it but he takes it all in and becomes more rooted in african-american culture than at any other time in hi

for dedicating it today to abraham lincoln. -- thank you. >> ladies and gentlemen, congressman jesse jacksond -- [applause] >>, jackson and i, from the great presidential state of illinois, we have the honor of reciting his gettysburg address. fourscore and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. now, we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure. we are met on a great battlefield of that war. we are dedicating a portion of that field as a final resting place for those who gave their lives that this nation might live. it is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. >> but in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate. we cannot consecrate. we cannot call this ground -- hallow this ground. the men, living and dead that have struggled here are consummated above our power to add or detract. the world will long remember what we say here. but it can never forget what they did here. it is for us, t

i've been talking to some people on facebook and i just got off the phone with reverend jesse jackson before we started talking. he said incredible. and there are others who are reminding from this that we heard something like this before articulate and clean, speaking of president -- then presidential candidate barack obama. and they were saying that person indeed was then senator joe biden who was now vice president. and the president, then candidate presidential candidate barack obama and joe biden, senator joe biden, talked at that time and smoothed it out. but you have to remember that this administration still tries to stay above the fray. for president obama to come out and make a statement on his own, he's saying, you know, he's dealing with this, it is done. they don't want to amplify the issue of race. >> let me read that statement from the white house from the president directly here. harry reid called me and apologized. i accepted his apology without question because i've known him for years. goes on to say i have seen the passionate leadership he's shown on issues of soci

workers was the man who write the sermon on am somebody that jesse jackson and ripped off from king because he watched every single thing that he did for about three years saying how do you do this. if you can't run, fly. that's like king in birmingham. all of those things. so, daddy king did have this prophetic exodus come at that, and he and borders to the full month of preaching on the liberation in polls of exodus and as many people would say, that is the central narrative in african-american religion. so daddy king had that and had been involved in the double ecp. with the refinement and some of this other stuff, that is king elaborating it through the crossover artists who are his models, benjamin mays, were tied johnson, howard thurman and howard thurman king king sample his story of what happened at india to tell the story of what happened when king was in india. he was introduced once as an untouchable and he said -- he tells the congregation reporting back in ebenezer here is a fellow untouchable from america. and everybody -- you hear the audience when sing -- wincing. i could no

jesse jackson once said to me that "the only people who are not bruised by the people sitting on the sidelines. everybody down in the field gets banged up." the trick is to learn from the mistakes that you make and get back up and keep playing. i have a signed on my wall next my desk that says "no guts, no glory." sometimes you have to remind yourself of that. i was in graduate school, i thought for a while that i would be a banker. i finagled and that this interview at citibank -- and got this interview at citibank, and when i was in high school, i was learning about economics and finance and statistics, kennedy school of public policy. you learn all this hard quantitative work and you want to put to use but i go to the interview, and i'm sitting across the table from this management consultant. one of the things about management consultants is that they like to talk in pictures -- arrows, circles, then diagrams -- venn diagrams. despite set, "here is a bank, we're doing international finance work, -- this guy said, here is a bank, we're doing international finance work, tell me how

the threatening african-americans, president barack obama because he doesn't speak from - like jesse jacksonittle more angry about how we've been treated the country in the past but it's a perception thing. if we step back and be honest about it, african-americans have been saying this for a long time publically. there's a lot of other african-americans that say such things. host: thanks ron if your listening on c-span radio or xm channel 130. there's a new book out this week called, game change. senator reid commenting saying he used poor choice of words. we'll show you what the president said, harry reed called me today and apologized for an unfortunate comment reported today and i accepted the apology without question because i've known him for years and seen the passionate leadership he's shown on issues such as social justice and i know what's in his heart. as far as i'm concerned, the book is closed and this comment from gary saying sad truth is americans have no or little contact with blacks would not likely elect a darker skin black man. south carolina. good morning on the democrats

congressman jesse jackson is meeting with usaid administrator.ne of the question should be directed to him so he can tell you about it. >> talk about the role that u.s. troops are playing in haiti. more are coming by the day. the can down the trail, what role they play in haiti? >> i want to add my accolades to the chairwoman and a cross- section of members you see here. this is a microcosm of every single member of congressional black caucus. it really tells us what are the needs and parameters of release that we should be focusing on. the congressional black caucus has been called the conscious of the conquerors -- congress. yesterday, there was a dialogue between different media persons, cnn and in other media person, who read this book truth to power. the haitian people are patient. the haitian people are nonviolent. the haitian people are grateful. the haitian people are in devastating conditions. they are begging for the world to support them. i am gratified that the team of president obama heard that. as relates to our soldiers, we are alw

you know, does it have like the jesse jackson, al sharp on the effect pumping up conservatives becausefrican-americans really don't. guest: my response is this is simple interest group politics. this is some significant high profile african-american political leaders that want to pressure the president's agenda so i don't think it's an attempt to suppress the american or african-american vote it's an effort to push the president down the road these leaders want. guest: i think the pressure is on the first african-american president to not just do but to go much further than any president has ever gone for causes sort of aligned with the african-american community. i think the pressure is awfully high and potent for disappointment is great, but i think you know president barack obama is trying approach it like he's the first president who is an african-american rather than an african-american president and that's obviously going to leave some in the african-american community disappointed but at the same time the job approval ratings among african-americans, hang on it's 89 percent. act

jesse -- the benton's were trashing jackson all over national. >> that idea. >> they both were wounded, and benton was persona non grata in tennessee, going and it's the hero of new orleans. so he goes to missouri -- going against the hero of new oeans. so he goes to new orleans. tyler called in the most grating political maniac that i ever knew, but he was brilliant and he knew how to move people and get things done and move in the congress. >> like lyndon johnson. >> in many ways. >> if we had doing today, how many of our senators do think would be laid out? >> most of them would not take the challenge. what is amazing is that benton became a grea jacksonian. they became good friends and he was a loyal adherents of the jackson movement, also a good pal of polk, until his son-in- law had a court-martial, and then benton turned on james k. polk with a vengeance. he would not even the knowledge him in church. they went to the same church. >> this may be a little unfair, but you are a great journalist as well as a great historian. in the historical context, where do you think obama will

congressman jesse jackson is meeting with usaid administrators, talking about haiti. congressman meeks is going to hold a hearing on haiti. he will tell you about the hearing. >> i want to talk about the role that u.s. troops are currently playing in haiti. who're coming during the days, some heavily armed. >> i am on a homeland security committee. i want to add my accolades to chairwoman barbara lee and a cross-section of members that you see here. this is a microcosm of every single member of the congressional black caucus who signed on to the resolution and yesterday's listen to ambassador joseph really tell us what are the needs and parameters of relief that we should be focusing on. the cbc has been called the conscience of the congress. i know today we stand here and say we will be the conscience of this effort, this recovery and rescue effort, and the longstanding effort you have heard of. yesterday there was a dialogue between to media persons, anderson cooper and another media person, who really spoke truth to power. the haitian people are patient. they are n

al sharpton, jesse jackson. we'd a lot of public figures talk about race.-- and frankly they do talk privately different from what they speak publicly. and when those private comments are made public, it causes an uproar. but everybody, eng everybody in politics knows realistically that this is a continuing problem that we need to address and talk about. host: new jersey, good morning. republican line. caller: good morning. i teach civil liberties at a major university law school and i'd like to know -- i have not read your book. it sounds like a very interesting book. with respect to the 1907s and 1980ings, -- 1970s and 80s, what you have characterized as stealth politics, how did it impact the court system? i know judge johnson, the federal district judge who may or may not be in your book who was very bold in many of his decisions was derided by many southerners and particularly southern democrats. i'd like to know, when you look at that, the occurrences of that time and then you look at the current status of the south, and its relationship to that very

while they were in charge how bad their system did go and where was al sharp sharp -- sharpton d jesse jacksonhen the young man was beaten to death. and being from arizona, border state, one reason that president obama put in janet nap pal ton know, she is a border state governor. well, she didn't want to secure our borders, still doesn't. she took the -- we have a sheriff here that gets 70%, 70% votes. he is the only person that has stood up and many illegal immigration a law. and we have laraza fighting us all the time. american people don't want illegal immigration. >> host: jennifer, thank you. >> guest: let's start with the point about hillary clinton. it's interesting. there seems to be this emerging group of hillary democrats now who have found common cause with conservative obama critics on many issues, and i think it's those swing democrats who are going to join with the tea party conservatives, i think, and really change the makeup in 2010 and 2012. i have my issues with hillary clinton, and i did a whole chapter on many of the shady connections and the money problems, the conflicts

you know, does it have like the jesse jackson, al sharp on the effect pumping up conservatives becauseafrican-americans really don't. guest: my response is this is simple interest group politics. this is some significant high profile african-american political leaders that want to pressure the president's agenda so i don't think it's an attempt to suppress the american or african-american vote it's an effort to push the president down the road these leaders want. guest: i think the pressure is on the first african-american president to not just do but to go much further than any president has ever gone for causes sort of aligned with the african-american community. i think the pressure is awfully high and potent for disappointment is great, but i think you know president barack obama is trying approach it like he's the first president who is an african-american rather than an african-american president and that's obviously going to leave some in the african-american community disappointed but at the same time the job approval ratings among african-americans, hang on it's 89 percent. ac

and where was al sharpton, jesse jackson, when that young man was murdered, beaten to death?here's the rights on the streets? my third point is, being from arizona in a border state, there's one reason that president obama put janet napolitano, he's going to say she's a border state governor. well, she did want to secure our borders. she still doesn't. we have a shared here to get 70%, 70% votes. he is the only person that has stood up and made legal immigration by law. and now they have taken away his rights. we have them fighting is all the time. american people don't want this illegal immigration. >> host: all right, jennifer. thank you. >> guest: let's start with the first point about hillary clinton. it's interesting. there seems to be this emein group of hillary democrats now who have found common cause with conservative obama critics on many issues. and i think it's those swing democrats who are going to join with the tea party conservative types, i think, and really change the makeup in 2010 and 2012. you know, i have my issues with hillary clinton, and i get a whole

co-sponsor jesse jackson of the naming of emancipation hall. co-sponsor with john lewis of the green mcado legislation in tennessee. recognizing the clinton 12 and the bravery on the road that we are on. but to me martin luther king day is all about equality and justice, the traits of our great nation that we hold so dear, that process and journey is not completed, it is not over. we all know it. but great strides have been made. including the elks of our president -- election of our president. the crowning achievement in this movement. but i was so moved by how a single bullet from across the street, and i went there as well, changed history, but also how at that moment so many things began to happen. dr. king even knew somehow in his heart heading into that moment that it was going to happen. i never realized the depth of that until i went there for two hours. it is a powerful, powerful way to celebrate this progress and this man and this part of our history is to go there. of course john lewis is all over it. you think chairman conyers, man

that's a great acronym, hope, reverend jesse jackson, keep hope alive and how many people have you helped >> this year alone, the records on 40 million loans which is the majority of the market share indicates that 2.6 million people have had either modifications or repayment plans in addition to the 700,000 government trial plans, 3.4 million people while 700,000 went to actual foreclosure sale, four times higher. >> what am i missing in this question, counsel? what's the basis for saying -- you're saying millions were saved? how you can identify who was prevented from foreclosure and the numbers you reveal are staggering and raises some questions. >> well, those are actually records we get on the data of people that are in repayment plans or actual modification which is a structural change in the contract and we have the government actual modification trials and then foreclosure sales are records. so we know how many go to actual sale. there are a lot of people in-between. there are millions of people who need help and we know that. so i'm acknowledging that when i'm trying to share you