the environme changes. i talked to a friend that is a captain in the marines, two other friends, no matter what you say, when you place women in an environment, men's behavior changes. >> can they become more civilized. >> it is the complete opposite. there is competition going on. and men are going to start wearing clone and -- wearing cologne and sharing aftershave now on shifts. i hate to sound animalistic but a submarine environment is a unique environment. then there is the other issue of pregnancy. on ships now, i found it interesting the navy does not keep statistics on the number of women that become pregnant under way and have to be taken off ship, interestingly enough, but it happens and what are you going to do on a submarine. >> do what they do with any other military hospital which is they now give out plan b so that is exactly with it is for. >> someone suggested that, if a woman is going to serve on a submarine they have to be on birth control or something like that, but you can't force women

the energy policy, change health care, change education, a lot of stuff like that. if health care fails-- which i think it will-- that option, which was really his offering, that's gone. so what is the sentence he is remembered? and if it's not going to be that then what is his presidency about? and i don't think he's made that transition to a post-health care world. i really liken it to the end of the cold war. but to me the options are these: he has always had even from the start of his campaign, two sides to him. there was the policy side on the campaign which was pretty conventionally democrat. but there was also the promise, which was post-partisan change the way washington works. and if he's not going to become the second new deal or the second great society with his democratic policies, then he's got to go back to the other side of him. which is changing washington. >> rose: is this as simple as running against washington, which a lot of people do to get elected and then they become consumed by what washington is. >> well, it wouldn't hurt, to be honest. to d

speaker, no change under the conservatives. no change at all. he is supporting the predator principle in the house of lords that he is supporting -- >> order. i apologize, mr. prime minister. we must have quite that i want to hear the answer. i hope you want to be the answer as well. prime minister. >> his is about no change that it is the politics of no change at all. he supports the originally principle in the house of lords again. he supports no reform of the house of lords for a decade. he supports no referendum to allow the electorate to have. this is a party that is no change at all. they are the same as they always were. we will vote for the alternative vote. they are still voting for the hereditary vote. >> mr. stewart bill. >> thank you, mr. speaker. building on the response of the prime minister to the parliamentary institution, is he aware that tomorrow's thomas legg will public his full review about his allowances building on the creation of it so and the kelly recommendations, all of them the initiatives of the prime minister. and w

to implement the change? >> the information that we would develop during the course of this review would help inform the legislative process. >> i salute both of view for careful statements for the courage of what you said but also emphasized you balanced that in your statement. what we are looking for here is an examination of the present law. is the most damaging aspect of the present policy? you made a powerful statement in terms of the integrity of the individual as you're deciding factor. what is the great volume of this law if we were to do away with it and move on to something else and what are the parallels? where are we going? are we going in the proper direction? we can't say that today. when you say that this is something that will ultimately be decided by the congress i would also like to emphasize my own agreement with what we have been saying about how important it is to hear from people who were served because whether the ultimate decision might be with congress, that decision can't be made in

we are committed to changing the regulations. we obviously want to make sure that the liabilities are secure, as well. >> each year, 1000 women died of cervical cancer. in northern ireland, young women can get screened at the age of 20, but in 2004, the government sought to increase the aid to 25. why does the government discriminate this way and will the government consider addressing this injustice? >> we are very concerned to make sure that we prevent and have early detection for as many cancers as possible and in this, we make sure the necessary resources are available and we have guided in the application of those make sure the necessary resources are available but indicted in the application of those resources by clinical judgments. he is not a scientist anymore than i am but what we have to do is take the best advice and act on it and make sure the resources are there to back it and that is why we have shriveled the investments. .. >> the government but there is an awareness date on this issue and will respond in due cours

that was changed last year. i just changed sot -- so the lawyers become the lawyers that work with the people that are being charged for the crime. that's a huge change for china. we'll see how it plays out. but that's in place now. and how it plays out to the providences. getting down to the providences, as you suggest, sometimes takes a long time. this is as far as we can tell mature. it has a long way to go. >> short answers. >> oh, short, short. >> going back to the google question, there's been talk on the news of possible government sponsored china anchors have been infiltrated not only private u.s. companies but highly u.s. government as well. if this is true, should foreign nations and companies be wary of future interaction and business with china? >> well, the way you form late late late -- formulate the question, but that mean china should be responsible for the chinese, most of those are operating out of taiwan. they are foreigners that go through taiwan and to the mainland and so on. this is still a

even if the law hasn't changed, the tenor in the building has changed. he has spoken. gwen: you were at the enter gone the day after the announcement, did you get a reaction? were people surprised or accepting? >> people were surprised. it caught everyone off guard. here he came out and said it with such conviction. at one point on the hill, a congresswoman on the hill said to the chairman, i appreciated you sharing your feelings. he corrected her and said these are my beliefs. at one point sessions questioned him and said this is our job to change, not ours. the chairman said this is about leadership in terms of why he said what he said. it caught the building off guard. you heard a lot of talking in cubicles and lines in serving with gays and lesbians in the military, what it means to cohesion and morale. it was an interesting discussion where people are saying it's not a matter of if, but when. >> i don't think there is in society as a whole, ideas have changed hugely since 1992, particularly among the group of people who is most likely to go into the teenagers, muc

change is more than words. change is action.es not matter who we are, what we look like, or who we love, then it is time for this president and this congress to take concrete steps to ensuring that equality. [applause] and since the president and congress brought up don't ask don't tell alaska week -- last week, let us start there. if the administration does in fact implement what it now states it can do under the existing law, the lives of thousands of service members will begin to improve, and the witch hunts will and spirit i thank the president -- the witch hunts will end. i thank the president for showing leadership here. i really do. [applause] but let me be clear. a year-long study, does not in a fierce advocate make. a year is far too long to wait. it is time to start using the executive branch to stop these discharges now while the congress moves to make these shameful practices and. -- end. mr. president, the ball is in your court. you have the opportunity to go down in history as one of the few presidents who acted de

and the obama administration to their credit have made some changes, some immediate changes vis-a-vis our policy toward haiti. but you know better than anybody else that the way we've treated haiti, maltreated haiti over the year vis-a-vis our public policy, is this a moment for us to rethink that? >> it's a moment for america to rethink. that but it's also a moment for haitians that are going into the 21st century to rethink the haitians constitution where there are certain changes that have to be made. one of the changes is dual citizenship. the fact of when you leave haiti and you become an american citizen, then there's a clause in the constitution saying you can't run for office. if you notice like in the dominican republic all of that has changed. i feel that real change of haiti is going to first come from the 4 million diasporas living outside of haiti that contribute many dollars a year, it's going to be them to be able to influence the constitution. i feel that haitians outside of haiti need to have some chairs inside that parliament. that's the start of a real change. >> it

and we will have to change it, if we do change it, and second, you shouldn't use your power to in any way influence a discussion or evaluation of the situation. >> senator, i would say that we can't possibly evaluate the impact on unit cohesion, moral, retention and so on unless we encourage people to tell us exactly what they think, and exactly what their views are honestly and as forthrightly as possible. otherwise, there is no use in doing this at all, and again, i can't emphasize enough, we understand from the beginning of this that this must be an act of congress. >> thank you. >> senator sessions, for me, this not about command influence, but about leadership. i take that very seriously. >> thank you. >> senator hagan. >> thank you, mr. chairman. secretary gates i want to say that i applaud your efforts in commissioning a thorough investigation of the "don't ask, don't tell" policy and how to implement a repeal of the policy in order to minimize disruption in military readiness, and i am wondering within the study, how will you study, how will the study take into account the vie

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the british changed it right away. just changed it. so you can do that. i think that's what we have to be very careful of, that people don't try and slow-walk this thing and, you know, keep the pressure on. i'm hopeful that in this year's defense authorization bill, they can put an amendment on there that will change the policy. >> like we have to phase out lying in the military. lawrence korb, former assistant defense secretary under president reagan, now at the center for american progress. great thanks for your perspective. >> thanks for having me. >>> as the fate of health care reform also hangs in the balance in congress, another reminder of the crucial need for reform, the forth free clinic funded by you, our "countdown" viewer tomorrow in hartford, connecticut. go to freeclinics.us or countdown.msnbc.com. >>> if mr. mccain turned into the party of no into the party of no personal integrity, add in frank lunz's lie and michelle bachman's warning to minnesota. you get put on the list in japan. to install the bounce dryer bar was so easy. just stick i

speeches are not changed. changes more than words. change is action. [applause] >> if we really are all created equal, if it really doesn't matter who we are or what they look like or who we love, then it's time for this president and this congress to take concrete steps to ensuring that the quality. [applause] >> and since the president and congress brought up the topic of don't ask, don't tell lastly, let's start there. if the administration does, in fact, implemented soon what it now states, that it can do under the existing law, the lives of thousands of servicemeservice members will begin to improve, and the witchhunts will end. and i thank the president for showing leadership in taking these steps. i really do. [applause] >> but, but let me be clear. a year-long study does not a fierce advocate make. [applause] >> a year, year is far too long to wake him and it is time the executive branch to stop these discharges now while the military and congress move to bring this shameful and discriminatory chapter of u.s. history to an end. [applause] >> mr

you cannot change it overnight and as you said, one man cannot change it. tavis: but it is not disrespectful that one man cannot change it. it is the people that were inside that dome over your shoulder, they can not change either unless they have the courage to change it. if they make a decision that corporations can spend whatever they want. corporate money is free speech. the only people that can change that in washington is congress. congress -- the supreme court interprets the rules, and congress writes the rules. they have the power to rewrite this. why in the world would congress rewrite these rules when they are the beneficiaries of a lot of this money. >> you put your finger on it. that is the heart of the problem. congress cannot change the whole ruling that the supreme court issued. i think they can do a lot of creative things to limit the impact of it. your point is exactly the right point. the beneficiaries -- there are only 535 clear beneficiaries in the system. that is 435 members of the house and 100 members of the senate. it is a lot to ask

so for the talk about the changing, no doubt it is changing, there's still something specifically importanthappens in the united states and what happens in congress. and of course when i used to live here in europe and before when i had the job as editor of the herald tribune europeans used to ask when do i get to vote in american elections and i used to tell them that's fine with me. i'm happy to have you vote but there's a number of county commissioners and not the united states but i haven't ordered to the senate about that but i don't imagine that will happen anytime soon but at least to convert to the end of the panel if you would like on the views of the various voices you are about to hear. now the framers of the united states constitution when they invented the u.s. government it was an invention. envision the united states congress has the first branch of government, the place where the issues and pressures and demands of society come together and be a result or not. it doesn't work as efficiently as some people might wish it worked but it probably works about the way the imagined

did it change things. i think yes, it changed things. it change things drastically. by the introduction of african-american voters. but it also emphasizes the peculiar is -- the interesting nature of stealth politicians. it was possible and it did happen in the 1960s and 1970s that this huge influx of black voters cost segregation, as politicians, to wage racist campaigns and get elected and just completely ignore those huge numbers. but it also created a setting for politicians, such as butler and me, to come in and decide to do things differently. to try to merge those new african-american voters with white voters. you know, one of the problems in political analysis is that we tend to look at census data and voting records and judicial decrees and so forth. and we tend to see that as a mechanistic calls will factor in what happens is completely -- those things just cause different behaviors by politicians. what we're saying is it's not so mechanistic, that stealth politicians represented a population of paul's visions of consciously decided to do it differently. an

it changed -- changes the base into the elite. of liberty. i am back to the first point i made. liberty is the core value of american exceptionalism. we must seek to safeguard it at every turn and whenever we operate in a universe to try and save guarded, we have to make sure we do so as carefully as possible and never do anything that does not expand and enhance the liberty would otherwise have. when we do that, we reinforce this concept that there is an alchemy in human existence. ordinary people become extraordinary and do extraordinary things in the environment and the presence of liberty and freedom. that is what the purpose of self-government in america is about, to safeguard that liberty, to put the self- interest of every individual, to have to operate in the universal governance. there are folks in governor -- there are folks in government who would impose their will on the people and should be awakened maybe by an election in massachusetts, maybe even a special election, which would bring the belt and say this country is

but that is where it is explains a change in policy.if you are dealing with images, it is necessarily a liberal image, but that is not the policy from the past, which has treated it differently. as this court pointed out in prior decisions, that is because of 1654 itself. it does not distinguish between the two, and instead turns to utterances. so the commission has tried to say that images are different by necessity, but you will not find that in any prior fcc case. to the definite -- so the definition has become the fifth generic -- dictionary definition. >> we did say that they did not differentiate between different types of artest material, images and words. so it is treating both of those categories the scent. >> that is right. suburb relevant distinction has been, as the commission described in 1987 and route, whether it is spontaneous, scripted, plant, whatever. the cases cited overtime break down in those categories. >> if they are treated the same, how we analyze the categories? is it the fleeting nature of images of words to

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how has film scoring in this town changed? regard for r a change? the process of it changed?me a quick lesson on how this has changed over the years? >> i have to be very careful when iance this question. the one thing that has changed is the era of writing pencil to paper has changed. we're now in an era where a lot of software has been written and machines have been designed that enable people to come up with music, not even necessarily compose music but just come up with music that may not know about music or may learn about music from just using the machinery. so sometimes i think what happens is the filmmakers gets caught up in the technology and lose the emotional quality and i'm not bei old-fashioned. i'm just saying the technology has changed. it's changed the way cameras are shot. it's changed the way special effect are used. in two years, jim's movie is not going to cost $300 million to make. tavis: the studio wishes $300 million. >> it will be half that price because the technology is going to make it come down in price. tavis:hen i say $300 million, it doesn't rea

later, eleanor changed her mind. she talks very well about democracy, eleanor would say, but she doesn't know how to live it. this may be a good place to fill you in on the other members of the families. the two olders were two girls. there was one for a head for business and a passion for money. the family beauty, an idealist who married the george washington of china. and when he died a few years later, became a communist. after that, the eldest brother known as tv a brilliant economist and then mailing. there were two other brothers but they did not figure heavily in the chinese power structure. certainly the most famous was mai ling who was china's face of the world during the middle of the 20th century. she was as well-known as she was representing not only her husband but her country drove her older brother tv absolutely crazy. he thought that he should be running china. and if china had not been at war at the time and needed a military man at the helm, he may well have been right. tv did not get along with cha

this could change back.you go through the historical patterns, and you could see how the democrats and republicans have both had times when they came back, but to get this new, younger group of voters, more plug then, networks, connecting on issues, and if you take the no. 1 sentiment in the country out there, which is i want to see progress, not partisanship, both parties are facing a crisis in confidence over themselves and frankly -- i should say that a lot polls and a lot of people always like to say that the crisis of confidence in government and our institution, and i am the guy that says, there is not really a crisis of confidence in our institution. people are voting and listening before. but there really are saying in a very clear way, enough partisanship. i want to release the the common sense ideas -- i want to release a common-sense ideas adopted across party lines. as you can see from this number, this is tremendous change. the media is focused very much on a tea party republicans and sarah pali

change never is. that is especially true in these times when we face an array of challenges as tough as any we have seen in generations. president kenny once -- president kennedy once said, things were just as bad as we had been saying they were. [laughter] something's were even worse. we took office facing a financial crisis that was something we had not seen since the great depression. an economy that we now know was bleeding 750,000 jobs a month. a $1.30 trillion debt and two wars that were costly in every sense of the word. from the specter of terrorism to the impact of globalization, we face tremendous new challenges in this young it century. this comes on top of one of the decades where are middle-class -- one of the most difficult decades that the middle-class had ever faced. the income of the average american household declined. the cost of everything seemed to keep going up. everything we have done over the past year has been, not only to write, but to also restore some of the security of the

those changed my life. host: what is the biggest change in your diet?ddressed. the city give up dairy. guest: example, the federal infants and within children that offers food assistance to pregnant women and infants, only recently did they allow lowfat milk and fruit and vegetables to be a part of the program. for decades it was whole milk, which is really too fat laden for the children's needs. host: indianapolis, paul on the republican line. go ahead. caller: i have a quick question for the doctor. wouldn't it be better for our schools to stop all of -- stop offering the alternative could food lines like we have with the embers and french fries? you cannot expect children to make wise choices, even through high school. wouldn't it be better if we simply did not allow the kind of food in the schools? secondly, vegetables and fruits that are harvested -- that are harvested and then frozen and processed within eight hours are actually a healthier than those that were harvested a week ago and still on the farmer's market shelf. guest: the fresher the fru

we are thinking the state changes in how it goes about its business would be fundamentally changed should you pursue that course. it also must match piven military power that is underscoring that deterrent and is some plain that we must be strong enough about that to the action will induce what lawyers would call prior restraint from the very first we want to make sure you are not prone to act but prone to restrain. while it must be compelling is surely should not paralyzing and their voice must be that door open and to take the pressure off to salvation and if you'll just maintain the peace. and all of it is underscore and by national will and actual military capabilities without those you cannot succeed but will inevitably fail. now, general welch who is at that time also were a member of our policy subcommittee i think is one of the best military minds we have today. and he today is chairman of the full strategic advisory group. he gave us this definition of deterrence to prevent aggression you must maintain the ability to hold at risk and the assets within that nation in which they wi

>> my view was we should change the language. i didn't object that interest rates were low at this time, but i think policymakers need the broadest options possible. the language that we use, that is very low for an extended period, was appropriate during the height of the crisis to assure that we were not going to make any changes, but now the economy is beginning to recover. it's been in recovery now for two quarters. we have to be thinking a little bit longer ahead, and that's really what my admonition was. >> susie: so do you think that the fed should begin signaling that it's getting ready to raise interest rates? >> no. what i'm saying is that the language should be changed so that we're not tying ourselves to language that says we won't do anything for an extended period when in fact events are changing, the come is strengthening. i think those are -- the economy is strengthening. what i'm really saying is maximize your as a policymaker. remember, susie, we're at zero now, and i don't think we can be at zero for an indefin

when you change the people, you change the company. uri living example of that.e in and out of the army and in and out of the public waiting for you to fail. you did not. your strategy helped restore iraqi's in america. that one over a large number of people who ended up helping you. we wish to the best in afghanistan for a similar kind of result. the world affairs council is a non-partisan organization to bring about the discussion about the world's most important events and we thank you for being here. i would likely -- i would like to thank you and invite you to join a generous friend. he is a physician and an accomplished businessman and an officer of the world affairs council. >>[applause] >> thank you for welcoming me here. i know that you have said that i know the art of doing a 30 minute speech in two minutes. it might take me 30 minutes to start. but thank you for your remarks today. we know that you are fighting a devious enemy. we know that you are fighting a devious and a -- a devious and emmy -- a devious enemy. we discovered comfort in knowing that

finally, changing requires changing politics as usual. panel of democrats and republicans, who would hammer out deficit proposals over the medium and long term, but would come up with those answers by a certain deadline. i should point out, by the way, that is an idea that had strong bipartisan support and was originally introduced by senators greg on the republican side and conrad on the democrat side. it had a lot of republican co- sponsors to the idea. i hope the -- that despite the fact that it got voted down in the senate, that both the republican leader mitch mcconnell and and the republican leader in the house, john vader, can fully embrace what has been a bipartisan idea to get our arms around this budget. that is also why we are restored in pay as you go, a simple rule that says congress cannot spend a dime without cutting a dime elsewhere. this will help lead to the budget surpluses of the 1990's and is one of the most important steps we can take to restore fiscal discipline in washington. you can read more about the budget at b

when obama was elected, we thought things would change. nothing has changed.t about their freedom and their human rights? i asked. they are living the strain contradictions of cuban life. they are some soured by fear. it is truly an island. some are experiencing back attacks by guerrillas. doctors and medical experts around the world especially to developing countries and to make a lot of money for cuba. it is one of the top five corners of foreign currency in the country. >> a familiar chant on this island, fidel. not one of these doctors is keeping. they are on their way to haiti as part of the canoe -- emergency assistance brigade from cuba. they graduated from the latin american medical school on the outskirts of havana. there are 10,000 foreign students here. discussions are paid for by the cuban government. >> i would not have been able to become a doctor without my scholarship. it is very hard to get this type of money. >> most are from poor developing countries. some come from underprivileged communities in the united states. what the cubans ask in ret

hope and change and teleprompters. >>reporter: a final thread running through the conference, a record deficit. >> one party will tax and spend. the other party won't tax, but will spend. it's both of them. >>reporter: it's known for its presidential -- an early test of potential presidential candidates and this year's winner? congressman ron paul of texas. paul, who ran for president in 2008, topping the list of voters with 31 percent followed by former massachusetts governor mitt romney, who won the past three years. he came in second with 22 percent. former alaska governor, sarah palin, who did not attend, a distant third with seven percent. 10,000 people attended this year's conference and organizers say 2400 of them voted. of those, 48 percent describe themselves as students. a group ron paul has done well with previously. in washington, fox news. >>> former secretary of state alexander hague has died. he died this morning at johns hopkins hospital of complications from an infection. his long and decorated militar

>> but we changed the name. [applause] >> with both of this again and again that we need to rediscover that spirit, that famous, you know, maybe a comparable quote about fdr, that he would say to a social movement leaders when they would present a good idea to him about reforming legislation, to be better for workers. he would say it's a pretty good idea. now get out there and make me do it. i mean, does the dialect to. he was a very stern dialect that between social movements, independent trade union and the administration. it was congregational. and you know if there's any hope of not sort of wallowing in cynicism in this political nomad in the one-year anniversary of obama's inauguration, we need to rebuild our independent social movement. [applause] and what i pharmacokinetic and -- i'm a young environmentalist, they know their science inside out, understand carbon trading and why won't work or intimated by this issue.electing obama would do it. we need an independent movement that's going to push them. and

it changes the distribution of prey and then changes where the penguins have to go to find it. >> reportercks starve to death before they parents return home to feed them. and one did while we were visiting. >> she came home from fishing. >> yeah, it was too late. >> reporter: which may explain why the population is down significantly, from about 600,00025 years ago to half a million today. >> would you like to write, as well? >> reporter: dee boersma believes the penguins are telling us something about the planet we share, and that we need to listen. jeffrey kofman, abc news, punta tombo, argentina. >> and you can see more of jeffrey's report and all those penguins later tonight on "nightline." >>> hope you have a good evening and hope you're back with us tomorrow night. we'll be right here. see you then. captioned by closed captioning services, inc. this is the "jeopardy!" college championship.

this is 17 years later. >> times have changed, larry, but the military's culture has not radically changedcause it's a time of war. so it's possible that, you know, we could change this, but be very, very careful because you have a military that's defending us now. you don't want to do something rash and create a risk that you don't want -- you just can't put back in the bottle. >> larry: lieutenant choi, does this policy personally hurt you? >> of course, larry. when we can all just talk about policy, i think that's fine for a great show in the evening, but for me, all of this really does affect my life. that hearing today was talking about my job. but you know how it really affects me personally and i think personally for all of us that are here, we're wearing our rings and on my west point ring, it says honor. the first day i learned the honor codes. a cadet will not lie, and you will not tolerate those who lie. but when i told the truth, i went on national tv and told the truth, i went to drill next weekend and we went on the rifle range, and as we were cleaning our weapons, one of my

we will not plan for change and we will not wait for change. we will create change. [applause] >> there will be a day when people will wonder how our rights were even an issue. what was the big deal. this state of inequality cannot be our children or our grand children's inheritance. [applause] that means stepping up and answering the call at this moment in history. we have an opportunity to lead. it is up to us to define what must happen next, and what will happen next. if we do not step up with an expansive view of what it means to be lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender, if we do not explain that being lgt or b is simply being human, we will be making a mistake. whose calling is that, if not ours? an agenda, yeah, i have an agenda. certainly. let's fight the legislative battles, including, let's end don't ask, don't tell, let's overturn the so-called defense of marriage act. pass both an inclusive employment, non-discrimination act and the domestic partnership benefits and obligation act for federal employees. [applause] >> and state by state, let's enact anti-bu

of climate change.climate change. let me give you three reasons. the ipcc, the scientific community has been telling us for 15 years that we can reduce global emissions by 30% by taking action that will pay at all back to lower -- with lower electricity bills in three to dilute five years. i do not believe that it is physically possible to continue to grow the chinese economy at 8% or 9% a year using the current economic model. it cannot be done. thirdly, i believe that europe's target of a 20% to 30% reduction of greenhouse gas emissions is not an environmental target, but an economic target, energy security target. there is an economic agenda at the heart of this. it takes me to a very important point made by carlos. it is buying an important that park -- that we have targets. it is more important that we get to those partnerships that will design a solution -- the solutions that make sense from a business point of view, rather than throwing billions of dollars at it. >> thank you. before we get to th

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