i would like to begin by revisiting the abdulmutallab case and attempting to clarify some issues thatubject to a lot of conflict to the city both in the press and the public and on the hill. some of the controversies stem from confusion or misunderstanding perhaps about how you preceded on the day that abdulmutallab was arrested and whether the intelligence committee was consulted about the handling of the case. so, mr. director, can you walk us through the basics of what had occurred on christmas day and how you interact with the intelligence committee has almost a chronology? >> yes. starting around noon -- and again i moss pacific to the acoustics not specific on the times but around noon or a little afterwards we received word an individual on a plan in bound to detroit from amsterdam apparently attempted to set off something. the initial reports indicated may have been firecrackers. when the plane landed first on the scene were those of the airport principally customs, border patrol, i.c.e. agents. we were certainly their ourselves and learned the individual attempted to trigger

and with the community, abdulmutallab never made any of that discussion. he was literally done in the noise and that's an issue we need to confront. related to the quantity of material is the issue of quality. and here i fall back on the rather overused metaphor as dot connecting. if you do envision a huge field of dots, many of them have something to do with terrorism. generally fragmentary but a large percentage of them are wrong. some circular reporting, and that can be kind of difficult for us to distinguish. that's challenge one. the second major challenger would confront, remember those 10,000 names i talked about. if we're dealing with sunni extremism in their arabic name for now you have to get past a western convention of first, middle and last are instead you are dealing with patronymic and ethnic and tribal affiliations and honor by six of the different names will be used for different purposes. it is complex, even assuming that they don't want to hide their identity. the 9/11 hijackers used 300 xt two main variations. a more recent case, zarqaw

i would like to begin by revisiting the abdulmutallab case and attempting to clarify some issues thatn subject to a lot of conflict to the city both in the press and the public and on the hill. some of the controversies stem from confusion or misunderstanding perhaps about how you preceded on the day that abdulmutallab was arrested and whether the intelligence committee was consulted about the handling of the case. so, mr. director, can you walk us through the basics of what had occurred on christmas day and how you interact with the intelligence committee has almost a chronology? >> yes. starting around noon -- and again i moss pacific to the acoustics not specific on the times but around noon or a little afterwards we received word an individual on a plan in bound to detroit from amsterdam apparently attempted to set off something. the initial reports indicated may have been firecrackers. when the plane landed first on the scene were those of the airport principally customs, border patrol, i.c.e. agents. we were certainly their ourselves and learned the individual attempted to trigg

there is a big difference and that is where the problem was with umar farouk abdulmutallab. in risk-taking intelligence service requires two things, it requires political leaders who understand that risks will be taken so mistakes will be made, that's the nature of risk, and, secondly, a group of intelligence-gathererers, who understand that when the mistakes are made the political leaders will back them up, not just throw them overboard. [applause]. >> it is also the case that because of the high stakes involved in fighting islamic extremism, a president may very well have to decide and should decide to preempt attacks before they happen. the idea is not to let the attack happen. again, it is a very different approach if you are in law enforcement, in law enforcement you wait for the crime to be committed, move in, and prosecute. you cannot do that in terrorism because they might have in mind to kill a couple of hundred thousand people and you have to be prepared to preempt and in many cases the president will have to make the decision on the basis of incompleted and ambigu

what the government know about abdulmutallab before they got in the plane back in november 2009, his father had gone into the u.s. embassy in nigeria and 710 i'm afraid my son is gone to join the radicals. they mentioned again in nigeria and wed been employed for a new plot. three, after the embassy visit, abdulmutallab name was mastered into a database by the national counterterrorism center where it sat waiting for analysts to review to decide whether he should be put on a no-fly list and kept up the airplane. so there's also the fact that abdulmutallab have an art issued a visa to gain entry to the united states. streams of intelligence, dots never connected, collected and never connected. and why? the place while this is supposed to happen, the national counterterrorism center is drowning in data on a daily basis. officials were attacked to estimate they receive every day between 4,008,000 new names of suspected terrorists, which is absurd. they're about many viable terrorists in the world that they're getting 4,008,000 names every day that are expected to follow up on. the maste

before december 25, the tsc have not received the watchlist for umar farouk abdulmutallab and was not watchlist that as you mentioned. following the attempted terrorist attack, the president has initiated review of white u.s.a. was able to board a northwest flight 253. as a result, the tsc was given to mission for two instructions per the first was to conduct a review in the tsdb of any individual within the tsdb that had a visa, beginning with the no-fly list and all the way down. that process has been completed. the second was to develop recommendations on whether adjustments were needed for the watchlist in nomination including biographical or the no-fly and select the list. to do so, the tsc convenience policy working group, which is consist of representatives from the national counterterrorism center, central intelligence agency, national security agency, the federal bureau of investigation department of homeland security, department of defense, department of justice and department of state to achieve this interagency consensus. that process is underway and the tsc is working wit

-- by our abdulmutallab.he big increase will be at the tsa. we will see a lot of new technology going to try to capture explosives detection a bit better, perhaps, than traditional screen technologies might be able to. host: foreign technology, most of the money going toward what type of technology? there are guest: as been a lot of money in these whole body imaging devices. -- guest: there has been a lot of money invested in these whole body imaging devices. the obama administration plans to put those 1000 whole body in the jurors around the united states and have coverage for about 75% of the largest u.s. airports by the time they are done deploying them. host: give us some examples of the largest u.s. airports. guest: j.f.k., o'hare, l.a.x., dulles -- some of these airports already have the technology and it has been installed sometimes in secondary screening locations. if for some reason there is a suspicious passenger, that you'll have to go through this secondary screening to go -- to be sure that you d

-- by our abdulmutallab.oing to try to capture explosives detection a bit better, perhaps, than traditional screen technologies might be able to. host: foreign technology, most of the money going toward what type of technology? there are guest: as been a lot of money in these whole body imaging devices. -- guest: there has been a lot of money invested in these whole body imaging devices. the obama administration plans to put those 1000 whole body in the jurors around the united states and have coverage for about 75% of the largest u.s. airports by the time they are done deploying them. host: give us some examples of the largest u.s. airports. guest: j.f.k., o'hare, l.a.x., dulles -- some of these airports already have the technology and it has been installed sometimes in secondary screening locations. if for some reason there is a suspicious passenger, that you'll have to go through this secondary screening to go -- to be sure that you do not have any contraband on you. host: does that mean that if you are tr

abdulmutallab december 25th, a good example. nazi another good example. so we will see adaptations over time. but it's key to go after the al qaeda leadership and the recent attack against an urban center is quite important. >> certainly a good start. juan zarate, thank you so much. >>> now back to erica. >>> back in january, dr. jennifer ash top was in haiti treating earthquake victims when a badly injured baby who had been trapped for four days was pulled from the rubble. dr. ashton resuscitated the child. she was nicknamed baby jenny. later she was air lifted to a hospital in miami, but programs the most amazing part of her story was still to come. dr. ashton is here with an update for us this morning on baby jenny. and that video must get you ever time when you see that little tiny face. >> yeah, it's hard to watch because there were so many stories like this. this, of course, was one of the most traumatic, this baby who was just a couple of months old was under rubble for four days when she was found, pulled out without any parents around seemingly,

recommendation the gentleman is making doesn't depend on this, but i'm told as a matter of fact abdulmutallabasn't on the british no-fly list. >> he was even worse. he was denied a visa. >> he was denied a visa because of a related problem. >> that even means that the foreign office had its act together. >> he was on our tied list but it didn't turn into the no-fly list. we'll straighten that out. >> basic point is you ought to have the resources to -- when they update their list they immediately go on the selectee list for us. >> and tsa actually does not nominate and maintain that list. but it is something that i will take back to the committee. >> thank you. >> i apologize for having to take a break. we'll make it as brief as possible. we'll come back for one final round after two votes.a7 >> a one up a look on the manpower aspects of that request. we do have this request for five screeners for each machine, and we want to see how hard and fast that estimate is. perhaps it could be a less manpower intensive operation. we also want to ask about the explosive trace machines. in this hearing,

although we did not keep abdulmutallab the fight on christmas, we arrested david headley, who was involved planning attacks on our friends and allies, and we arrested several other americans planning to blow up public buildings right here in the united states. last september, months of painstaking work by the intelligence community led to the announcement by our president, flanked by the prime minister of the united kingdom and the president of france, the iranians had been constructing a secret centrifuge facility to enrich uranium and that they had been concealing it from the international atomic energy agency, and these are few of the examples of the excellent work being done by the intelligence community on new areas, but i can assure you none of us believes we can rest on our forests. there is much work to be done. now let me turn to the future and tell you about the priorities for the intelligence community, what it is we're working on a sweet to go forward. oun traditional -- what we're oun working on as we go forward. some of our missions remain traditional. even though the cold wa

recommendation the gentleman is making doesn't depend on this, but i'm told as a matter of fact abdulmutallab wasn't on the british no-fly list. >> he was even worse. he was denied a visa. >> he was denied a visa because of a related problem. >> that even means that the foreign office had its act together. >> he was on our tied list but it didn't turn into the no-fly list. we'll straighten that out. >> basic point is you ought to have the resources to -- when they update their list they immediately go on the selectee list for us. >> and tsa actually does not nominate and maintain that list. but it is something that i will take back to the committee. >> thank you. >> i apologize for having to take a break. we'll make it as brief as possible. we'll come back for one final round after two votes.a7 this is live coverage on c-span3. >> the march 4th hearing of the congressional oversight panel will come to order. good morning, i'm elizabeth warren and i am the chair of the congressional oversight panel. as everyone in this room knows, in late 2008, a financial crisis threatened to bring the worldw

much of what we are talking about it, particularly talking about abdulmutallab, christmas day at underwear bomber, criminal defense, plan and some, not a war crime. the question of whether you can backdate war crimes, define them now and charge them for conduct before they are any delay in a -- delineated as war crimes. but you cannot erase that eight years, and that is the problem. >> i guess for me, i love the questions you've asked because they are the hardest ones. i do not think that is a half a loaf that i would even bother eating frankly. just of the reasons you say. the implications, the precedent behind its, the fact that the jurors are going to be military officers and not a jury of american citizens, troubles me. and the think frankly -- it would come as no surprise -- our goal is to blow these commissions up just as we blew them up under the bush era. we will show how bad they are. we gave it -- when we jumped in and said, ok, now they have rights, what do we do to make sure that these rights are secure, there is not much to do to secure the rights. you can blow up the military