i'm bob abernethy. it's good to have you with us. as health care reform faced a crucial vote in washington, new divisions among religious groups. catholic leaders are among those at odds and, this week, displayed a rare public split. the u.s. conference of catholic bishops opposes the plan, saying it does not go far enough in restricting abortion. but, the catholic health association, which represents most catholic hospitals, is supporting it. and, nuns who lead groups that represent many women religious sent a letter to congress, urging lawmakers to support the bill. they said it would extend needed care to millions of americans. meanwhile, the vatican faces growing anger over a burgeoning sex abuse scandal in europe. new allegations of abuse by priests in ireland and germany are raising questions about the culpability of church leaders, including pope benedict. joining us to talk about this is david gibson. he is a vatican expert who writes a column for the online newspaper "politics daily." he is also the author of a biography of