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senator republican john mccain, and then white house health care czar nancy-ann deparle. plus, the politics of reform. as the president makes one final push, what does the public really want from washington? and will success or failure on health care tip the scales in the 2010 midterm race. analysis from our roundtable, three insiders, house republican whip congressman eric cantor of virginia, president and ceo of the national urban league marc morial and house chief deputy whip debbie wasserman. the "national journal's" ron brownstein and bbc world news america katty kay. first, senator john mccain, welcome back to "meet the press." >> thanks for having me back. >> the health care summit on tv, much anticipated. it happened many hours worth. what changed? >> i think the american people are much better informed and i think it was a good thing because i think there was an in-depth discussion with a lot of -- about a lot of issues and i'm glad that it happened. and it gave -- i think a lot of americans watched. i'm sure not all seven hours but i think it was a good forum, i

of this effort, an extraordinary woman who led the reform effort from the white house, nancy-ann deparle. [applause] today, i am signing this reform bill into law on behalf of my mother, who argued with insurance company -- companies even as she battled cancer in her final days. i am signing it for brian smith who is here today. he runs a small business with five employees and trying to do the right thing to pay half the cost of coverage for his workers. this bill will help them for that coverage. i am signing it for 11-year-old marcellus owens who is also here. [applause] marcellus -- marcellus -- marcellus lost his mom to an illness and she did notpc2 have insurance and could not afford the care she needed. in her memory, he has told her story across america so that no other children have to go through what his family went through. [applause] i am signing it for natoma canfield who had to give up insurance after her insurance company jacked up her premiums by over 40%. she gave up for insurance to hold onto her house. she is lying in a hospital bed, as we speak, faced with an illness,

secretary kathleen sebelius, the head of the human services department, nancy-ann deparle, all of us working together, working with this president because we know how important this is for the american people. now that this bill has been signed into law, we know that children with preexisting conditions are going to have health care. we know that young people can stay on their parents' health care insurance policy up until they're 26. we know that small business owners are going to be able to provide health care for themselves and their employees and that seniors are going to be able to afford prescription drugs. these are things that are going to happen this year. going to happen because the president used the stroke of a pen and signed this into law today. >> now, there are still some big challenges. in mentioning women, no one more so than nancy pelosi muscling this through. let's talk about the challenges because now that it is out of the house, the senate is going to be picking this up today. democrats won a big one last night according to lawrence o'donnell, who broke the story

speaker nancy pelosi said the president's top health care adviser, nancy ann deparle, explained what'saking shape. >> she walked through the president's proposal. and members had opportunity to ask questions about it, express some of their priorities-- public option, public option, public option, as you can imagine. and, again, another step taking us closer to voting on quality, affordable health care for all americans. >> reporter: pelosi said there's now enough to move forward. and, across the capitol, senate majority leader harry reid also sounded hopeful. >> we're not going to set any arbitrary deadlines on what we're doing. we've made significant progress the last week. we had a very good day yesterday. we feel that this is something that we can do. it's not done yet, and that's an understatement. >> reporter: the reported progress on a health care bill comes after closed-door meetings at the capitol that went late into the evening yesterday, between white house chief of staff rahm emanuel and democratic leaders. talks centered additional subsidies to cover lower-income americans,

nancy deparle who i recently mentioned.and i think one of the reasons is that the obama vendors got into so much trouble during the formal nomination process that they just threw up their hands or somebody public policy idea of completely circumventing it in creating the shadow cabinet. >> host: going back to the issue of fox news. the problem is that hannity and o'reilly don't check facts and promote lies. >> guest: there is cannibal as anybody else. and they know that the rest of the mainstream the, the fox bashers are going to be on them like white on rice. and that a lot of these left wing blog organizations that dedicate their entire lives to combing through every sentence that is said on fox news are going to be those kind of reports are then regurgitated almost word for word by a lot of the mainstream media. so the idea that they are not held accountable for what they say on air is ridiculous again. it's just -- i -- i have choked on my blog about fox derangement syndrome. and i think it also serves as a convenient d

of this effort, an extraordinary woman who led the reform effort from the white house, nancy-ann deparlereform bill into law on behalf of my mother, who argued with insurance companies even as she battled cancer in her final days. i'm signing it for ryan smyth, who is here today. he runs a small business with five employees. he's trying to do the right thing, paying half the cost of coverage for his workers. this bill will help him afford that coverage. i'm signing it for 11 year old marcelas owens, who's also here. [applause] >> marcelas lost his mom to an illness. she didn't have insurance. couldn't afford the care that she needed. so in her memory, he has told her story across america so that no other children have to go through what his family has experienced. [applause] >> i'm signing up for natoma canfield. . . [applause] to senator ted kennedy and it's fitting that ted's widow vickie is here. [applause] it's fitting that teddy's widow vickie is here and his niece, caroline, his son patrick who has helped make this for a reality. [cheers and applause] i remember seeing ted walk thr

i think the most honest and candid admission we saw on the sunday talk shows yed was is nancy-ann deparleat the white house saying on nbc when pressed i think three times, do you have the votes now, she kept saying we will have the votes, which is clearly dodging whether they have them now but confident that they will down the road. as dana knows full well, a lot of work to do on the hill to get those votes. >> dana bash, you're on the hill banging down doors talking to your sources. what are you hearing where these votes may be? >> they still aren't there yet. ed is right. first of all, start in the senate. they need 51 votes. they believe they are going to be likely okay there, but not 100% sure. but ironically, the biggest challenge is the house where democrats have a huge majority. but there are a few issues here. first of all, the issue of abortion which has been a vexing issue on this health care debate between democrats for some time. .bart stupak is an anti-abortion democrat from michigan says that he has maybe a dozen or more democrats who say if they go down this path and that w

deparle was on television yesterday.>> given the results of the summit that to have to move forward with reconciliation. this calls for a simple majority. rtunity to bring republicans along? >> look, he will have more to say this week on how he thinks is the best way to move forward. i think what is important is we have fundamental problems with our insurance market. we have insurance companies sending up premium increases of 39% out in california. these are problems that need to be fixed and the president hears every day from americans. host: but you have to go through a procedure to get there. i have heard from some people a decision has been made -- reconciliation, go through unless what is talking about is not possible. >> i do know this, health care reform has passed both the house and senate would not just the majority in the senate, but a super majority for not talking about changing roles. all the president is talking about the we need to address this problem and it doesn't make sense to have a simple up and down

secretary of pulte, tomorrow will be announcing the deparle -- secretary napolitano will be announcinge deployment tomorrow. >> i hope the decisions are made according to threats? they are. i wanted to check that out. another issue -- secretary napolitano testified last week that dhs did not have the rights to grant gso's collectively. what is holding up the department from taking this action when president barack obama said he supported this. it seems to me the threat to the general public is the terrorist and not the labor unions. this does not make any sense. could you respond? >> the secretary has indicated that she wants to get a permanent tsa administrator in place before the final decision is made on collective bargaining. >> that is a good excuse but what is happening? >> i will tell you what i have done in my tenure as the acting assistant secretary. i have held meetings with both ntu and asde where the leadership of the unions have brought in representatives from around the country that are members of their respective unions. we have set down and have had great dialogue with

of this effort, an extraordinary woman who led the reform effort from the white house, nancy-ann deparleause] today, i am signing this reform bill into law with regard to the mother who argued with insurance companies as she battled cancer in her final days. i am signing it for ryan smith who is here today. he runs a small business with five employees. he is trying to do the right thing to pay half the cost of coverage for his workers. this bill will help him for that coverage. i am signing it for 11-year-old marcellus collins, who is also here. marcellus owens. marcellus lost his mom to an illness when she did not have insurance and could not afford the care she needed. in her memory, he has told her story across america so that no other children have to go for what his family has experienced. [applause] i am signing it for natomi canfield who had to give up her health coverage after rates were jacked up by more than 40%. she was terrified that an illness would mean she would lose the house that parents built. she give up for insurance. now she is lying in a hospital bed as we speak, fa

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