. >> what do you think about people who are psychic? where they genuinely have psychic experiences and i am one of them who has had them >> i am skeptical about anyone's psychic experiences i am a hard-core err material was that believes in materials and particles but within the paradigm i can show within those rules there can't be psychic experiences. logically speaking is that possible there are things that are incomplete? that is true but i don't see any reason based on the evidence that i have access to to make that leap i think there are easier ways to understand that. >> thank you for your wisdom perot wished i have lectures like you when i was in college. [laughter] here is my a conundrum we measure lot of things with respect to time. so i always think of time as the independent variable in your cosmological theory is it? >> isn't time just a label the variable that goes from the starting point* to the ending point*? vs something that depends on other things? most physicist is the authors call each journalist it is able four dime

. >> what do you think about people that are psychic?where they're -- where they genuinely have psychic experiences, and i'm one of them who's had them. >> the question is what do i think about genuine psychic experiences. i'm skeptical on that. i'm a hardcore materialist who believes in atoms and the standard model of particle physics and within that paradigm i can sort of show within those rules there can't be psychic experiences. now, logically speaking it's absolutely possible mhat paradigm is incomplete and there are things about the universe that we don't and understand that is true. i don't see on the evidence that i have access to, to make that leap. i think there's a much more -- there's easier ways to understand the things i observe in the universe than that. yes. >> thank you for your wisdom. i wish i had lecturers like you when i was in college. [laughter] >> all right. here's my conundrum. he with measure a lot of things with respect to time. time is on the independent variable. i think of time as the independent variable. i

oh, you're psychic! what am i thinking of right now? tacos? yes!helping you save money no matter what you drive. now, that's progressive. call or click today. >> mike: we are back live on this saturday night. everybody is talking about the impact health care is going to have in washington. what we haven't heard a lot about is the direct effect of the bill that is going to happen to the states across the country. why aren't we seeing more governors making public statements about how they are backing the obama plan? why are 36 states threatening to sue if it is passed on the federal level. joining me pennsylvania governor ed rendell in favor of the democrats' bill and south dakota governor mike rounds who opposes it both by way of disclosure. both friends of mine longtime colleagues and i know they are going to shoot straight with mel. i start with you governor rendell. how are you and tell me why you support in bill and what you think it is going to do for pennsylvania? >> mike, bob laid out reasons democrats are for this bill. within important one

there is other kinds of psychic violence. i think the media is doing some of that, too. you know -- >> -- well, i understand what you are saying, bill. one thing that i have to think we do have to be careful about. is there is a movement in some quarters, most of them are on the left i would say, not on the right to. intimidate people or make people feel self-conscious about speaking out. if you speak out and you criticize obama care and you are too inflammatory in your rhetoric or you put crosshairs on your facebook page like sarah palin, then you might as well be a member of a militia. i mean, and i think we have got to be very careful. >> bill: that's irresponsibility. >> when you try to circumscribe political speech, i say that's dangerous territory. now, what the westboro people are doing is very different. you can't find a legitimate conservative who will stand up and say what militias are doing is good or what westboro is doing is good. you compare that to code pink or the people who today or yesterday was it who disrupted karl karl rove's book signing and screame

that really is the spiritual sort of psychic shift that occurs when you get sober. this is a spiritual disease and it requires a spiritual solution. >> larry: is it easy? >> the great thing about it is, one time you don't think about yourself. if i think about tom arnold it gets pretty bad. if i'm of service to some kid, i'll get a call, don't know who they are. show up in compton, if you do this, it will help this kid, whatever. i feel great because i'm not thinking about me. that's what saves my life. being of service is a real selfish thing. it's why i do what i do. >> larry: you like helping others, mackenzie? >> i love helping other people. like, it gets you out of your own head. >> larry: that's a reward, too? >> yes, absolutely. >> larry: we're going to find out what you should do if you or someone you know needs help. we'll ask dr. drew if there's a magic bullet. first, our cnn hero of the week is a retired luxury home builder moved by the sacrifice of our troops overseas. with more than 30,000 injured there, returning from iraq and afghanistan, dan decided

oh, you're psychic! what am i thinking of right now? tacos? yes! helping you save money no matter what you drive. now, that's progressive. call or click today. >> trace: and now to the nuclear standoff with iran. a new report indicates the united states may be weakening proposed sanctions in order to avoid losing them entirely. the "wall street journal," which is owned by the parent company of this network, is reporting the u.s. has dropped two tough punishments aimed at iran's economy. the u.s. treab trying to block iran's access to banking and financial markets outside its borders. and keep the country from using international airspace and shipping lanes. but in order for those sanctions to go into effect, russia and china would have to be on board and so far, those countries have been less than enthusiastic about putting strong restrictions on iran. the journal reports the u.s. decided to back off of the proposals so russia and china will sign on to the sanctions. it may be working. white house press secretary robert gibbs talked about the negot

in 1976, they consulted two psychics. >> somebody got buried or i would not get those feelings i did.reporter: still, they came up empty. the mystery continued to make headlines. families endured painful anniversaries. >> every year you play it over again. you look at what are the possibilities. what could have happened. >> reporter: in 2007, eutsey asked lieutenant louis coraga to help on the case. you had to start from scratch? >> start from scratch. >> reporter: in 2008, a strange switch. suspect lee evans called one of the victim's brothers and told him he had become a born-again christian, and wanted to let him know that mobsters were involved in the boys' disappearance, mobsters, not him. police didn't buy it. evans and another suspect, his cousin philander hampton still lived in town. a third suspect died in 2008 of natural causes. is there one shred of evidence that really stands out for you that you said you know what? this could be it. >> well, the putting together the fire with the disappearance of the kids. >> reporter: the fire he is talking about happened in 1978. about

oh, you're psychic! what am i thinking of right now? tacos? yes!ou save money no matter what you drive. now, that's progressive. call or click today. >> shepard: yes, this is america's election headquarters and senator john mccain and fox news contributor, one-time governor sarah palin campaigned together today for the first time since they lost the race for the white house. remember when senator mccain chose then governor palin as his running mate. he helped launch her national political career. no question. now he is clearly hoping she can help save his political career. because the senator from arizona is facing a fierce battle to keep his job. >> it was such a privilege to be asked to run alongside him in 2008. and it's an honor to stand beside him now and ask that you, arizona, for the sake of your state and the sake of our country, that you send the maverick back to the united states senate. [cheers] >> shepard: and this rally is just the first of a few reunions for these former teammates. anita vogel with the news. she is live in tucson, ari

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some thought he was a psychic, but the police thought he was a heretic, someone who used black magican infidel, and in saudi arabia wahhabism, any perceived insult to god is a crime punishable by execution. after his death sentence, a case was taken up by an appeals court who found the initial verdict premature, the case went back to the original court for reconsideration. but two weeks ago the original court upheld their verdict. he is once again sentenced to die. his wife finds the whole experience brutal. >> translator: death is more merciful than what we're going through. >> reporter: rights groups are calling on king abdullah to pardon sabat. one confession aired on saudi television. his lawyer recorded it and provided a copy of the tape to cnn. his family was shocked to see him in prison, looking frail with cuffs on both his hands and feet. >> translator: for how many years have you been using magic? >> translator: about eight years. >> reporter: his lawyer thinks the confession could have been co-ersed and his family is preparing another appeal. >> translator: i hope they let

i am not a political pundit for partisan psychic, so i do not know what is going to happen this week with reform, but i do know what matters most to american -- knowing they will have the of virginity to lead healthier lives with health care of it is available if needed and that people will get the best quality and value of care for the dollar they spend. i know politics like health care is local, and you know it, too, because across every state in this country, you are addressing the challenges of the dressing rising health-care costs and increases in the uninsured. i also know these realities in your states means whatever happens in washington, you are going to have to deal with it, and you have a proven track record of innovation and leadership, and that is it so often with the country needs of this time, so i know your efforts with and without reform are going to be difficult but probably more difficult without federal reform, soda institution is please fill a post office. we are grateful for your leadership as you go there to prepare for the challenging times ahead of course we

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