butch is joining us from jackson, wyoming. welcome to the program. >> caller: thank you a lot. it's a real pressure to talk to you mr. dean. i see you on msnbc a lot. i'd just like to know a few questions. i could sit down and talk to you for hours. are you still a conservative philosophy, over the conservative philosophy? i'd like to think what you thought of the movie with david frost and nixon interviews. and i would also like to know about the new movie "w" that's out and i think it's scowcroft who said when he knew cheney that cheney today is not the cheney that he knew. and do you have any idea what he was talking about. >> host: thank you, butch. >> guest: okay. let me take the first. on many issues i still consider myself a goldwater conservative. i am about as nonpolitical for somebody who writes about politics as you can imagine. and i say that in a partisan sense. i vote both sides. i don't believe that anybody has all the answers. and i try to study a problem and vote for who i think might be the best candidate for the best circumstance and try not to be driven by a

>> host: thank you, butch. >> guest: let me take the first. on many issues i still consider myself a goldwater conservative. i am about as nonpolitical for somebody who writes about politics as you can imagine. i say that in a partisan sense. i vote both sides. i don't believe that anybody has all the answers, and i tried to study a problem and vote for who i think might be the best candidate for the best circumstance, and try not to be driven by any ideology. i am registered in california as an independent for all practical purposes. they have because we don't have to declare it a party, so i don't. so those are my politics. your next question about the frost/nixon movie, i have not seen that yet. i actually have it on my iphone, and i got -- i was thinking about watching it on the way back but i watched in glorious bastards instead. so i haven't seen it yet but i will soon. and i understand it is well done. i still certainly remember the original, but i think -- i was delighted to see it. ron howard is such a good job with everything he does

i really want to butch your metabolism as much as possible and if you bump up your muscle through strengthing you optimize calorie burn and your body's composition. >>> when you say strength training, you mean pick up weights. >> weights, exercise, tubing, your own body weight, machines, whatever it may be, lungs, swawts, pushups, pullups, if you hit it hard you'll instantly notice a difference in your body and memorial day is four, five weeks away, so we're getting close. jane: first is intensity, and number two, eating is almost everything. >> it really is. jane: 75 percent is your eating. nearly 25 percent of your weight loss would be affected by your exercise. >> that's correct. and the big problem is most people think you can outtrain a bad diet, which you cannot do. the calorie is -- the calorie is king. oprah is doing this initiative on no cell phones and texting in the car? i challenge americans, no eating in the car! if we just stop eating, that mindless eating in the car, it's amazing how many calories. we're eating too many calories and drinking too many, this is a tirade i've b

butch is calling from west virginia. butch, you don't think it warrants punishment?ron on one thing and one thing only. it's alleged. what happened with innocent until proven guilty? obviously, there were no charges filed. as far as i'm concerned, it's a done deal, no charges, no harm, forget it. the commissioner is trying to play god and needs to mind his own business. >> hold on a second. you say it there was no harm, but true enough there was no -- they're not pressing any type of charges. do you have any problems with the type of behavior he engaged in at all? go ahead. >> there again, innocent until proven guilty. i mean as far as i know, it's not against the law to go in a bar, and i don't know that he took the girl there. obviously, no wuone else does either. why was it the bar giving her drinks? obviously, if ben was wrong and there would be charges, and then i would say the commission certificate in the right. if he did something wrong, file the charge and punish him. if there's no charges, forget it and people mind their own business and get on with it. >>