also charlie wilson of texas. both of those guys only five or six years older than obey is at 71. that had obey thinking, gosh, what do i really want to do with my life? what am i doing here? he was first elected in 1969 to take the seat by melvin laird who went on to become defense secretary in the nixon administration. that gives you just an idea of four decades, more than four decades he's been a player in washington. >> and it would take david rogers to really get to the bottom. he's such a sup pesh reporter. congress members, they're people, too. not always just politics. people are affected by these changes, especially what happened with jack murtha. let's talk about immigration and the digging you've done. you've read "the new york times" poll on immigration. what is your take away from all that as to whether the immigration law in arizona is actually a threat to republicans or actually could hurt -- could help republicans and hurt democrats? >> well, andrea, i really think it's both those things. people really have been focused largely on the threat, the long-term threat t

and three terrific members of congress, tim ryan, charlie wilson, john boccieri -- john boccieri. give them all a round of applause. it is good to be back in ohio. and it is good to be back in the valley. i appreciate the chance to tour this unbelievable facility. sometimes when you're president you get kind of jaded. you've seen a lot of stuff, you go through these factories. this one, when you walk through, is just unbelievable. it's like off of a movie set. and so it was exciting to see but what was especially exciting was to see all the people who are working here and to see the work that you're doing here. so i saw the 85-ton electric arc furnace. i didn't see any evidence but i know that you're building iron man suits somewhere in here. i appreciate the time that i've had to spend with all of you. partly because it's nice to get out of washington. washington's a wonderful place, beautiful, nice monuments. i have this nice home office, live right above the store so i don't have a commute. but sometimes in washington everybody's spending all their time arguing about politics a

in the last months, two colleagues, charlie wilson and jack murtha, have died. both were 76. for me, that is only four years away. at the end of this term i will have served in the house longer than all but 18 of the 10,637 men and women who have ever served there. the wear and tear is beginning to take its toll. given that fact, i have to ask myself how i want to spend the time i have left. frankly, i do not know what i will do next. all i do know is that there has to be more to life than explaining the ridiculous, accountability destroying rules of the senate to confused, angry, and frustrated constituents. [laughter] i absolutely believe that, after the economy returns to a decent level of growth, we must attack our long--term budget deficit. but, perhaps i expect too much because, in addition to an attack on the federal budget deficit, i also want to see an equal determination to attack the family security deficit, the family income deficit, and the opportunity deficit which also plague the american people. i am, frankly, weary of having to beg on a daily basis that both

. >> can i go back -- charlie wilson from cbs. aa one to go back a question to north korea. the use of its torpedo. the u.s. has been involved in the investigation. do you in -- consider that an act of terrorism or is it an act of warfare? is that sufficient to place north career back on the list? >> i will punt to my colleague who is the legal adviser. when we talk about terrorism, we talk about it being carried out by non-state proxies. not always. the short answer, to this court later, it looks like a stayed on state action. i will wait for the lawyers to weigh in. >> let me take this in a different direction. as administration tries this government approach and d.c. national security needs through multiple lenses, a counter- terrorism being one of them, how do you see a our ability to balance our national security asks from key countries as well as seeing democracy promotion? in egypt we have seen egypt renewed the emergency law and there were slight changes but premise the continuation of laws on its need for counter- terrorism focus and that had a tremendous [unintelli

in the last month, it two colleagues, charlie wilson and jack murtha, died.r me, at their age of this -- to be there at age is only four years away. the wear and tear is beginning to take its toll. given that fact, i have to ask myself how want to spend the time i have left. frankly, i do not know what i will do next. all i do know is that there has to be more to life than explaining the ridiculous accountability destroying rules of the united states senate to confused and angry and frustrated constituents. [laughter] i absolutely believe that after the economy returns to a decent level of growth, we must attack our long-term budget deficit. perhaps i expect too much because in addition to an attack on the federal budget deficit, i also want to say an equal determination to attack the family's security deficit, the family income deficit, and the opportunity deficit which also plays the american people. i am frankly weary of having to beg on a daily basis that both parties recognize that we do no favor to the country if we neglect to make the long term investm

host: anyone who does not know why we are in afghanistan -- afghanistan should what "charlie wilson'sar" for a little background. are you still with us? caller: this is my first time calling in. i am republican. i do not understand why we're over there in afghanistan. they have been fighting for many, many years. we are over there trying to stop them from fighting. but, i also have a question. why are we sending more people over there to get killed and it is doing no good? i mean, it is -- there isn't a reason for us to be there to start with. host: thanks for the call. "the near post," "supreme slum." a photograph of sonia sotomayor. this shabby housing project will be named after the supreme court judge, but the residents would prefer justice. her name will soon grace a bronx housing project so run down that it nearly failed its last federal inspection. the new york housing authority sang it will rename the houses after its most famous former resident next month, fuelling speculation it will happen on june 4, when she is in town to give a commencement address. a former associate jus

in the last month, two colleagues, charlie wilson and jack murtha have died, both were 76. for me that's only four years away. at the end of this term, i will have served in the house longer than all but 18 of the 1,637 men and women who have ever served here. the wear and tear, believe you me, is beginning to take its toll. given that fact, i have to ask myself how i want to spend the time i have left. frankly, i don't know what i will do next. all i do know is that there has to be more to life than explaining the ridiculous accountability destroying rules of the united states senate -- [laughter] >> to confused, angry and frustrated constituents. [laughter] >> i absolutely believe that after the economy returns to a decent level of growth, we must attack our long-term budget deficit. but perhaps i expect too much, because in addition to an attack on the federal budget deficit, i also want to see an equal determination to attack the family security defendant, the family income deficit, and the opportunity deficit, which also plagued the american people. i'm frankly wary to