he went to massachusetts at the end and campaigned for martha copely. she lost.here are two other examples in gubernatorial election last year. he was on the phone. he did a tv ad for him. joe biden went up there five times but he did not go up on the sunday before the election, put his arm around senator specter and try and turn out the vote and it probably wouldn't haven insider by definition? >> i think he was able to associate himself enough with the good things that measure that had done for the district and focus very much on economic issues. it's an area of the state that's been very hard hit. but because he was not an uncouple bent, so to speak -- incumbent, he was able to separate himself a little bit from the worst of washington. he was not against health care, he's pro-life, progun, as was measure that. he was able to make it a local race and focus in on the republican, tim byrnes and make him much more of an issue. they were able to turn the tables on the republicans in that race. gwen: i was surprised to see republicans come out the next day and say,

he went to massachusetts at the end and campaigned for martha copely. she lost.here are two other examples in gubernatorial election last year. he was on the phone. he did a tv ad for him. joe biden went up there five times but he did not go up on the sunday before the election, put his arm around senator specter and try and turn out the vote and it probably wouldn't have helped but it was interesting that he decided not to do that. gwen: i want to talk about what happens next in that race because pat too manyy, who is a conservative -- he was the reason arlen specter switched parties. so what does it look like for joe sestak? is he at a disadvantage? >> in the polls he's down by a tiny bit but some would argue that beating specter, running that powerful ad improved sestak's standings. one of the reasons obama wanted to stand out too is that people who supported sestak need to come out in the general election to support too manyy. people across the country -- toomy. sestak might -- he has some support. the white house is very bullish on him now. [laughter] >> aft