by: caption colorado, llc (800) 775-7838 comments@captioncolorado.com >>> from washington, "the mclaughlin group," the american original. for over two decades, the sharpest minds, best sources, hardest talk. "the mclaughlin group" is brought to you by met life, guarantees for the "if" in life. >>> issue one. primary colors red and blue. >> the mandate of our victory tonight is huge. what you have done and what we are doing can transform america. i have a message, a message from the tea party. a message that is loud and clear and does not mince words. we've come to take our rnment b [ cheers and applause ] >> question. the winner of the kentucky republican senate primary was rand paul. who is rand paul and what does this victory tell republicans? pat buchanan? >> he is the doctor, the son of ron paul, the libertarian republican who did very well in debates but not well with the numbers. rand paul, john,the most interesting candidate in the race because he is a pristine example of what's happening in america. it is anti-washington, anti- establishment, republican as well as democrats. mitch

i watch it every weekend on the mclaughlin group and we love you.terner, retired, living in palm springs now but i'm from colorado and idaho. my wife and i comes when you are running for president, noticed you had a lot of momentum going and you are doing quite well, and then you came out here to arizona primaries. i want to know who on your staff told you to wear a black cat. because the good guys always were the lighthouse. and i said that black cat is not going to do him any good. that and just one other question, watch you a lot on the show and i really feel sorry for you that you allow yourself to be such a punching bag on their show. >> guest: i have worked for msnbc, and that's not a conservative network here. but i think we hold up our own. let me say about arizona, you know, people talk about the black cat and holding up the gun. i don't think that was it. i think what happened was we had done everything right, but when we got to the arizona primary, forbes had run for the nile and fourth in new hampshire. but the trouble is he was able to

brunch. >> i am from the mclaughlin group and i told john i will not be able to make it.ee hours on c-span. [laughter] >> host: your on with pat buchanan. >> caller: hello. i don't like that i don't like you because i do think you're interesting and funny but every time you say you love the way it was in the forties and fifties it is if you are discounting with a whole group of people, particularly my family. you know, all of the details about europe but good down street from washington d.c., blacks could not believe -- could live beyond you street and the number of lynchings. and where you wind you may have had one or two token blacks. it is a cute story integrated the caddies but those are probably the only jobs they to get around anybody in power of the right to opt it would have done them in a good price of learning but how could do not know what was going on with the black people when you say we were all americans? >> host: we got the point to . >> guest: we knew it was segregated but you did not think a lot about it. that is right but i grew up with the cardinal arc

and then john mclaughlin started doing a brunch 3;k then one the day before.t was that organizations realized that everybody was in town that week. and it just sort of happened and developed that way. so you are right, it's something you have events almost every night beforehand. >> as a long time watcher of these affairs and what going on in new orleans, what is the presence of the president to address that and keep to the light-hearted of the event? >> there is a long history if the event is traumatic, bypassing the humor and skipping it. president clinton after the oklahoma city bombing comes to mind. presidents have to do what is right. i do not think this is quite the

and now you don't do that as much except the mclaughlin group can get somewhat that way. but i do think i have somewhat mellow. you get your ideas out. i think the ideas we had, i think have been proven correct and i think innovation was the right way to go. control the borders for heavens sake. don't send all the manufacturing jobs abroad. i think have all been proven valid. if you control the borders we wouldn't have this problem. if you have gone into iraq, afghanistan and gone out to all these different places, expanding nato, you wouldn't have these problems. the culture war is going to be there. they say i declared it at houston. >> host: who is shalit again? >> guest: shelley is my wife since 1971. i we going on 39 years i guess this year. we have an anniversary coming up on may 8. i party got her present pickup. have been discussing it with her and negotiating. [laughter] >> host: she knows what it is. >> guest: i had to get her approval because i bring some christmas give someone a 26 and they go right back. >> host: widget showed a picture of your wedding day wi

host: all right, ken mclaughlin, staff writer. thanks. those who want to listen or watch, the debate will air sunday night only live on c- span.org, but then replayed on c-span and c-span radio at 9:00 p.m. eastern. back to the phones, open phones, mark on the line for democrats from oregon. caller: good morning,rob. first of all, buddy, getting the thing with the phone numbers straightened out. it is ok. in reference to the next, to this call -- if there were ever an example of to what is wrong with the american politics -- we have two individual spending millions of dollars for a job that at last count pays something like $170,000 per year. here we have individual spending millions. something is definitely wrong. it is all about the money. it is all about the military- industrial complex. the dead bodies make more money than live wednesday. just keep the population down. it sounds rather crass, but it does seem to be that way. host: we will leave it there. jim, phoenix, ariz. caller: you read something from a journal -- i forget which o

also, andrew mclaughlin, the deputy chief technology officer for internet policy at osd p.i thank them for their leadership and for their support on these important issues. and we are truly fortunate that the department of commerce to have with us the kind of recognized experts and quality thinkers and leaders in marc berejka and in danny weitzner. so i want to thank mark, not just for his kind words of introduction, but more importantly for his leadership, his vision within the office of secretary. and i want to thank danny, not just for his work on this symposium, but for his brilliant work as a real day to day leader of the department of commerce effort in this arena. and while there are too many here to acknowledge individually, i do want to take knowledge that many staff from ntia, ita, from nest, across the department of commerce on this issue and in direct correlation with the symposium. so will you please stand up and be recognized? [applause] but finally, i want to thank all of you. your participation in this symposium here today starts a new phobias in our convers

enter mclaughlin -- andrew mclaughlin from os dp. thank you for your leadership and support on these important issues. we are truly fortunate to at the department of commerce to have with us the recognized expert and quality thinkers and leaders s. i want to thank mark, not just for his kind words of introduction, but for his leadership, his vision, within the office of secretary. i want to think danny, not just for his work on this symposium, but for his brilliant work as a day-to-day leader of the department of commerce effort in this arena. will there are too many people to the knowledge individually, i do want to acknowledge the many staff from nyia, ita, nift, and across the department of commerce who worked hard on this issue and in preparation for the symposium. if you are here, please stand up and be recognized. [applause] finally, i want to thank all of you. your participation in this symposium here today starts a new focus in our conversation. if you have not done so yet, please submit comments on our request for comments.

you started with a vanity fair having a dinner after words and then john mclaughlin started doing a brunch. it basically was because organizations realize that everybody was in town that week. it just sort of happened and developed. you are right. it is something that -- you have events almost every night before hand. host: with what is going on in louisiana, what is the pressure on the president to try to balance the dressing a serious concern while keeping to the light hearted nature of the event? guest: there is a long tradition of presidents -- if the event is particularly dramatic, it will bypass the humor and completely skip it. president clinton, after the oklahoma city bombing, comes to mind. presidents have to do what is right. i do not think that this is quite the events as, say, an assassination, or the oklahoma city bombing. i would expect the president to say something, make mention of it, as does all to be aware of the suffering and the damage. but i would be surprised if he dropped the humor. host: he is a long time watcher of these events. he covers the white house for cong

also andrew mclaughlin, the deputy chief technology officer. i thank you them for their leadership and for their support on these important issues. and we are truly fortunate at the department of commerce to have with us the kind of recognized experts in quality thinkers and leaders in mark and in danny. i want to thank mark -- not just for his kinds words of introduction, but for importantly for his leadership, his vision, within the office of secretary. and i want to thank dany. -- danny. not just for his work on this symposium, but for his brilliant work on the day-to-day leader of the department of commerce effort this -- in this arena. while there are too many here to acknowledge individually, i do want to acknowledge the many staff from ntia, ita, from nift, and across the department of commerce who have worked hard on this issue and in preparation for this symposium. if you are here, would you please stand up and be recognized? [applause] >> but finally, i want to thank all of you. you're participation this this symposium here today star

you started with a vanity fair having a dinner after words and then john mclaughlin started doing a brunch. it basically was because organizations realize that everybody was in town that week. it just sort of happened and developed. you are right. it is something that -- you have events almost every night before hand. host: with what is going on in louisiana, what is the pressure on the president to try to balance the dressing a serious concern while keeping to the light hearted nature of the event? guest: there is a long tradition of presidents -- if the event is particularly dramatic, it will bypass the humor and completely skip it. president clinton, after the oklahoma city bombing, comes to mind. presidents have to do what is right. i do not think that this is quite the events as, say, an assassination, or the oklahoma city bombing. i would expect the president to say something, make mention of it, as does all to be aware of the suffering and the damage. but i would be surprised if he dropped the humor. >> a c-span video library lincoln fact. there are nearly 6000 references to lincoln