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where are we going to oss that line, where we don't continue to lose money from a company that can't pay is dividends that it owes us? >> i laid out sick steps in the restructuring plan. if you would just bear with me for a minute. what is going on is a resolution of a large financial company, and that resolution involves its downsizing. we are selling stuff to pay back debt. selling aia and alico. we have a sale transaction through the life insurance operations in taiwan. we have so buildings in real estate around the world. >> i understand that. i afraid to report. >> bear with me. it takes time to take a company of this size and scope to get it down to a foot print where it is actually reduced its debt, reduces leverage, rduced its risk. >> understand that, that is why ask the question. the question was, i hear this enormo optimism was suggesting that some kind of plan in mind and aig has a plan in mind. for where it will end up and what i see today is that it is not able to pay the dividends on those preferred shares so what i'm asking is when in this downsizing do expect those t