what to offer abu mazen is miracle. something people can have. i think it's wishful thinking.hink the government of israel will approve. i think maybe they will come out with an area to be included, you know, back to oslo model. okay. let's work -- let's pretend that it's oslo. and give more areas for the p.a. to control. it's not disillusion. i think what is needed is a political solution. i'm really very pessimistic, you know, to what extent the american administration will help abu mazen at this stage. >> so regarding what obama can offer abu mazen, well, i think that the expansion of palestinian p.a. authority into the other areas, into area b and so forth would be support for that, explicit support for that. and working with the israelis on that while it isn't the answer, it would be better, you know, than the package of confidence-building measures, lifting some road blockages, releasing a few prisoners, you know, this kind of thing. so there are, you know, certain things that obviously if president obama wants to offer them to president abbas he's got to get them first

[lauter] >> ty say abu mazen was the one who alwa promoted the independence of palestinian decision-making d now you are ginghe decision tohe arab states. >> there is noontradiction between the mandate from the arab league and the plestinian independence. i asked them to talk to them and take the mante and then i go to-- go to the plo and to decide whether i am wrong oar write nd to approach what i difor the arab league. both sides are participating in the samewhh s good for us because all the arabnow are committed. >> president abbas, as i said we first met when-- september 13 1993 and i wis that we will see u aa. ing the peace agreement between israel and the state of palestine. thank u so much for joining us. [applause] >> thank you very much. [inaudle conversations] >> this week, on prime minister's questions, david cameron takes questions on election reform and the british mission hill and iraq and afghanistan. you can see the exchange said sunday night. this weekend, the chicago tribune's live on c-span's booktv. get the entire schedule at booktv.org. >> with a confirmation hearing f