[laughter] after i read the article, the thought came to me and the thought was this, dave ruth hit two home runs on that day. -- babe ruth hit two runs on that -- two home runs on that day. [laughter] [applause] so, i gave one of my law clerks the assignment of finding out what happened. she got papers from the contemporary -- contemporaneously newspaper accounts that made it perfectly clear that it went right out in center field. [laughter] [applause] i made a mistake in assuming that i had not correctly remembered what happened. [laughter] other than congratulating jim and van for their well learned trophies, it is very interesting to hear what our general has to say. i thank you very much for your attendance and you're welcome. [applause] -- and your welcome. [applause] >> your honor, we knew that you were a cub fan and now that you're retired you have more time to go to a cubs game. [applause] [applause] >> elena kagan is less of a chicago baxter then justice stevens and was not at the 1932 -- chicago fixture than a justice stevens and was not at the 1932 cubs game, but she, too, h

i said, yes i was, and i remember sitting behind third base and watching dave ruth -- baby ruth -- babe ruth pointing to center field and following up with the famous shot. after the discussion, when everybody had left, a young man came up to me, he may have been a bankruptcy judge and not as young a man as he seemed -- [laughter] he said he did not want to be responsible for embarrassing me in front of the crowd, but that his grandfather had been in the bleachers, and the ball had landed by him and they had saved it and had a souvenir. the implication was that i was dead wrong for having said that the ball went over it the center field scoreboard. my lesson from that was that maybe seniors memories are not as good as they should be. maybe they do not remember things as well as they should. earlier this year, i was interviewed about this event. i told him just what i told you, that you have to be careful about trusting the memory of senior citizens. he wrote that in the article and indicated that maybe what i had to say was not entirely reliable. [laughter] after i read the article, a t